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#74451
Mr Chr15topher

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I wish that the panel was longer. Needed much more info from them. But, yeah, like lots of people have pointed out they dodged a lot of the ending questions and are continuing to call themselves artists.

#74452
honourshield

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hmm :/

kinda weird no difficult questions were asked. maybe it was staged?

#74453
Guest_Fandango_*

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I expected a whitewash but good grief!

#74454
Jere85

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Said i would wait for PAX, if it were a let down i would unsub SWToR, unsubbing now.

#74455
Dan Rosse

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LazarusMP wrote...

Yep...  Got that right Mike... I hop you like how this plays out in the end. :mellow:


Dear Mike! Say "bye" to my money.

#74456
sumo390

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When in doubt, place plants to ask "fan questions"

also, ignore the drone folks

Modifié par sumo390, 06 avril 2012 - 10:05 .


#74457
Sacred Of the Grey Wardens

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I think I'm going to get off for a while.......just too confused at the PAX panel's answers right now....be back later...or tomorrow.

I don't know anymore.

Sacred out(hopefully not for good)

#74458
FlyingCow371

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From the panel('s live blog feed thingy):

5:52 KCox: Q: Ending DLC. More cut-scenes, or additional gameplay?

A: currently planning on extended cinematics but cannot currently comment otherwise. "keep giving us your feedback."

So, what's a good way to give this feedback? From their comments thus far on the DLC it seems like they don't understand how important it is for Shepard to be able to...well, act like Shepard Commander during the final scene. Shepard shouldn't just go along with the star child reaper baby thing...definitely needs to have a "screw you, we'll find a better way" option; possibly explaining how the kid is wrong, since Geth and Quarians are friends, and Joker and EDI can love each other, etc. Without that, all the clarification in the world won't be able to explain why Shepard becomes so meek and stupid at the end.

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DJBare

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Come on everyone, they were never going to give us concrete answers right now. They're trying to sort this dlc out, the writers are working at it. They can't come out and promise something that they can't deliver (again I know) so they have to tread a very thin line. It's aggravating and frustrating but part of the problem is that they don't have concrete answers to some of our questions.

QFT.

Modifié par DJBare, 06 avril 2012 - 10:05 .


#74460
soltenshi

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oneword wrote...

are you there? at PAX?


Well, nop. And I pretty much regret I didn't go. That was an interesting place, in case you understand there wasn't going to be said much on the ending issue.

#74461
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Bionic Weapon wrote...

Lestatman wrote...

Well guess it's time to pack up our bags and move onto something better. Bethesda, Rockstar, CD Project I'm on my way with my money to you.


Witcher 2 and Max Payne 3 for FTW!!!! unless thats not your thing:D


Terraria!

#74462
RussianOrc

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This is how i feel.
http://www.oliverk.o...ouver riots.jpg

#74463
Ghaleon

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I expected no less, and don't feed the troll mintycool just report him and move on.

#74464
NeverQuiteAwake

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I just wanted someone to ask why Joker was running away.

#74465
Phoenix NL

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Sacred Of the Grey Wardens wrote...

I think I'm going to get off for a while.......just too confused at the PAX panel's answers right now....be back later...or tomorrow.

I don't know anymore.

Sacred out(hopefully not for good)

*hugs* we'll be here

#74466
TamiBx

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Guys, no need for caps. 
I know we are all angry/mad/POed/upset, but we need to calm down and think: they haven't made anything yet. 

#74467
DJBare

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UPDATED!

An End Once and For All


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#74468
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One source is claiming that there was a "Cheer-off" during the questions. Supposedly one questioner supported the endings and got cheered by the audience, apparently someone stood against the endings (unsure if earlier or later) which resulted in a supposedly larger cheer from the audience.

If this is true, then that may be the only form of advantage we got from there. Still, suprising they didn't spend the whole time giving off "75 perfect scores" and information about the multiplayer DLC.

#74469
g_bassi13

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Well they managed to avoid any sort of in person confrontation through careful tactics... But the online s**tstorm they're about to face....

#74470
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DJBare wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Come on everyone, they were never going to give us concrete answers right now. They're trying to sort this dlc out, the writers are working at it. They can't come out and promise something that they can't deliver (again I know) so they have to tread a very thin line. It's aggravating and frustrating but part of the problem is that they don't have concrete answers to some of our questions.

QFT.

Indeed.

#74471
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MintyCool wrote...

sumo390 wrote...

lol I see they got a drone to ask the "artistic integrity" Q



Just a Pro-Ender defending a creators rights.

What about narrative coherence ? What about the rule of story telling that says "do NOT introduce a major character at the end" ? What about the purpose of the end of any story, to resolve all the threads of it ?

Seriously, artistic integrity, "defending a creators' right". I did not know that critics were so harmful. Poor babies !


What about NOT killing Mass Effect with an end so broken even other "creators" make fun of Bioware ?

Seriously !

#74472
Dan Rosse

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Can someone tie up MintyCool with the seatbelts? :D

Modifié par Dan Rosse, 06 avril 2012 - 10:06 .


#74473
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I really feel sad for anyone happy or laughing about "Retake failing". Don't they see that if BioWare starts losing money from lost customers and bad word of mouth they will lose too? Well, maybe it's just that they don't care at all, and that shows what amazing "fans" will keep BW for the future.

#74474
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sagevallant wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...

Lestatman wrote...

Well guess it's time to pack up our bags and move onto something better. Bethesda, Rockstar, CD Project I'm on my way with my money to you.


Witcher 2 and Max Payne 3 for FTW!!!! unless thats not your thing:D


Terraria!


*raises fist*

That too!^_^

#74475
Bubi7

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For everyone, if the live thingie doesn't work anymore, I put it on pastebin
Time is UTC-4

http://pastebin.com/1kTCeC8T
nothing really new to be honest...