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#74726
Dan Rosse

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C'mon! Gimme 3K pages!

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Atrocity

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Haranalee wrote...

Atrocity wrote...
AND it may help I really only care about Arya and Hound :whistle:


I'm still in denial about some of the deaths. Nope, didn't happen in my version of those books, I don't know what you're talking about!

:lol:
I've managed to convince myself Sandor is not dead, seeing how Martin tends to kill his characters on page when he kills them, not leave them feverish and sh*tfaced in some forest and expect the reader to make the conclusion.

Unfortunately, same goes for Gregor too... <_<

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Phoenix NL

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CoolioThane wrote...

I look back at my responses to this thread and I come across very bipolar. I'm very much positive!

Mr Hyde on the other hand....... dun dun duuuuuun! Image IPB

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Kazaru wrote...

I'm out too good night
Holt the line


-_- night-night

#74730
VyseN1

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Dinner time!! Hold the line everyone!

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Green man5490 wrote...

Just spent the last 30 or so minutes reading through the posts on pax, not happy and have no desire to continue playing mass effect or any BW game for that matter. Think we as a group should not download any MP or SP DLC they release from now on.


Trust me my money wants to go to something else right now. It still has some confidence that things will work out, but right now April and May have two big releases that it wants to help buy.

BTW is your name an Always Sunny in Philly refernce?

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Phoenix NL

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chmarr wrote...

am off for the night boys n girls.

keep up the good work

and HOLD THE LINE

Goodnight Chmarr, I hope the painkillers help you get a good night's sleep!

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DJBare wrote...
Hold the line!


can i get a hug from miss moneypenny :3

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Al-Qiliqi

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 Guys i know it's off topic, but this guy here has to few views i think, for this video is pretty awesome!
www.youtube.com/watch

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Lenjik1779 wrote...

So, only we can get is a movie, that explains destruction of normal life?

They have said that it will be more than cinematics but at this point in time they can't confirm what else.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

chmarr wrote...

am off for the night boys n girls.

keep up the good work

and HOLD THE LINE

Goodnight Chmarr, I hope the painkillers help you get a good night's sleep!



~hugs tight~ thankies =^_^=

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Atrocity wrote...

Haranalee wrote...

Atrocity wrote...
AND it may help I really only care about Arya and Hound :whistle:


I'm still in denial about some of the deaths. Nope, didn't happen in my version of those books, I don't know what you're talking about!

:lol:
I've managed to convince myself Sandor is not dead, seeing how Martin tends to kill his characters on page when he kills them, not leave them feverish and sh*tfaced in some forest and expect the reader to make the conclusion.

Unfortunately, same goes for Gregor too... <_<


you guys do realize that there are certain 'hints' that sandor didn't actually die, yes? :> 

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Computim wrote...
Same question for you then: Could you provide a bullet point list of what you want please? Image IPB


I'd like them to actually face us head on and discuss things rather than keep up the constant dodging everytime someone questions the endings.

I know they likely don't have a clue or a plan, and I'm not expecting them to have one, but I'd like them to partake in an active discussion of it all.

Problem there is, that goes counter to the PR damage control playbook they are running right now, so it won't happen.  EA wants it to vanish so they can keep making money and they're calling the shots.

We all know they wont admit to making a mistake or lying to us, even though there's plenty of old posts from them with all sorts of claims that didn't hold true in the finished game.

Many tweets and posts by members of the staff to us have been less than polite and some were downright condescending (looking a lot at Priestly here).  I think that deserves an apology myself.  The first rule when dealing with customers is, "The customer is always right, even when they're wrong", and you never, ever insult them or their intelligence.

This time they got my money, but next time they won't.  The time after that they won't either.

Trust has to be earned, and at this point, they are starting from well below zero and I dont know that they'll ever get my trust again.

If others want to believe they've chaged all of a sudden and will provide more space magic to fix all the issues that started this thread, then enjoy.  I've seen EA/BW do nothing to earn my trust that they aren't going to screw me over again.

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Computim wrote...

Green man5490 wrote...

Just spent the last 30 or so minutes reading through the posts on pax, not happy and have no desire to continue playing mass effect or any BW game for that matter. Think we as a group should not download any MP or SP DLC they release from now on.


Encourage you to go back and read some of the posts from members here, I have a long one that gives a bit more balanced perspective than some of the "ANGRY ANGRY RAGEEEEEEEEEE HULK SMASH" ones we seem to have plenty of these days.  I'm not BUYING any DLC from Bioware til the Extended Cut drops, I'll take the freebies like the one coming out the 10th happily though Image IPB


I feel bad for not staying on topic, so I'm gonna quote you, since you sum up my feelings on this pretty well. Hope you don't mind?

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Al-Qiliqi wrote...

 Guys i know it's off topic, but this guy here has to few views i think, for this video is pretty awesome!
www.youtube.com/watch


That is so not nice... You're going to make me cry again. Image IPB

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Darth_Acheron47 wrote...

Nothing that wasn't expected, really. There was something mentioned about the "Extended Cut" and the fact that it will contain additional cinematic sequences, possibly some gameplay, but that they can't say anything more about it yet.

They showed the trailer for the MP DLC that's coming out. They spent a good deal of time talking about what people liked about the game (Garrus, Tali, the mission on Tuchanka and Mordin's sacrifice), touched on the issue of Tali's face. They also presented a lot of statistics involving the number of conversations, how many lines of dialog were recorded, and how many variables they had to take into account.

The Q&A was very short and avoided the contorversial issues. Talked about things like facial expressions for Shep, Ilos and Protheans looking like they had tentacles, more about Mordin, etc.

Did I miss anything important?


Thanks everyone who answered.

I guess it would be interesting if we didn't have such bigger problems before us about the game. And that's the problem. When the Titanic was about to hit the iceberg, do you think they should have talked about the paint job done after the crash?  

I'm not comparing BW with the Titanic, mind you. It's just a metaphor for priorities. When there's something much bigger to discuss, the rest becomes insignificant or totally irrelevant.

Take the big issues out of the way (by dealing with them and the customers), and then talk about frivoloties.

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Darth Suetam wrote...

Feraiin wrote...

Nothing. They said pretty much what the FAW for the DLC said, they didn't touch the subject of the end much.
The rest of the questions were about other aspects of the game.

So, your generic Q & A session with a Game-Dev under pressure. Of course we all had a bit of hope that they would go into more details, answer more questions and such, but that didn't happen, so many are disappointed, many angry and a few rare gems are deilishly excited that we didn't get any news.


Thanks. That's very disappointing! And something that no one wanted. Or did they think anyone was interested in anything else?


It's a pity, but I sorta expected something like this as a result. Don't lose hope, some of the comments sounded rather interesting.

What we know is they will definitely release longer cinematics but couldn't talk about other content of the DLC. So, more cinematics for sure, but that doesn't rule out further interaction and such.

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SabishiiRyuu

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thanks for the hug!

2am here and I'll probably keep holding the line until 5am. I feel like crap.

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Well, im off for the night. Pax didnt go as i expected, ugh -_-

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chmarr wrote...
can i get a hug from miss moneypenny :3

She says yes, but no arse grabbing.

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Computim wrote...
Same question for you then: Could you provide a bullet point list of what you want please? Image IPB


Honestly there's a few things I wouldn't have minded for the ending not to mention the whole game. For simplicities sake I'll go with my three big ones: more than the tri-coloured ending also to have the endings reflect choices made, the removal of the starchild thing and all it's illogical statements and the Reapers to go back to the we're beyond your comprehension model, not this we're the Starchild's b****** and we kill you to save you.

Out side of the game I'd love for Bioware to have a spine and stand up and say what they think not cower behind the PR speak like children, I mean even this "clarification" ending is them talking down to anyone that didn't like the endings. But that's not likely to happen ever.

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Darth Garrus

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Feraiin wrote...

It's a pity, but I sorta expected something like this as a result. Don't lose hope, some of the comments sounded rather interesting.

What we know is they will definitely release longer cinematics but couldn't talk about other content of the DLC. So, more cinematics for sure, but that doesn't rule out further interaction and such.



I'll stand together with you guys. Holding the line!

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silencemayday wrote...

you guys do realize that there are certain 'hints' that sandor didn't actually die, yes? :> 

Naturally. Though if he ever ends up together with Sansa, I may wish he did.
I can't stand Sansa. I appreciate how she is written, and her character development, but still she annoys me.

Modifié par Atrocity, 06 avril 2012 - 11:02 .


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Darth Suetam wrote...

Thanks everyone who answered.

I guess it would be interesting if we didn't have such bigger problems before us about the game. And that's the problem. When the Titanic was about to hit the iceberg, do you think they should have talked about the paint job done after the crash?  

I'm not comparing BW with the Titanic, mind you. It's just a metaphor for priorities. When there's something much bigger to discuss, the rest becomes insignificant or totally irrelevant.

Take the big issues out of the way (by dealing with them and the customers), and then talk about frivoloties.


They did mention the Indoc Theory too. Their response to that was pretty interesting... They mentioned how "creative" the fanbase was in coming up with it and pretty much left it at that - said they weren't going to offer further comment because of the DLC they have coming up and that it would "speak for itself."

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Back from the soul crushing zone of Modern Warfare MP. Any news from PAX about Mass Effect?