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[Green man5490]

Fallenfromthesky wrote...

I'll say something pertenant before this thread derails and causes the Great BSN Thread Crash circa 2012

What do you think that the Extended Cut will include to expand the endings?

What happens to earth and other worlds after the space magic maybe they somehow reconstruct the relays (which is the only way I can see the fleet around earth not starving) what Shepeards love interest does after everything is over and the other races rebuilding. I for one will just watch it on youtube.

[TamiBx]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

Did they say anything about the multiplayer affecting single player EMS?

...thanks for reminding me.
And no 

[Computim]

chmarr wrote...

theres one thing that bioware has NOT even remarked on.

the mass relays explode they destroy entire solar systems planets and all life.

so how the F**K can they clarify the endings when EVERYONE IS STILL DEAD.

unless there using there space magic tipex and white out that huge cluster f**k

Their solution will probably be a Heisenberg Compensator.

For anyone who doesn't know about that it's a device that the writers of Star Trek: The Next Generation came up with to explain how Transporter (beaming) technology worked.

Heisenberg's uncertainty principle states that you can never know the exact location, physical position and momentum of an atom at the same time (due to various quantum physical constraints technobabble).
The writers came up with a "Heisenberg Compensator" which brought about a funny quote when Time Magazine asked "How does the Heisenberg Compensator work?" to which they received the response "It works very well, thank you".

They'll have some explaination in the cutscenes.. this is what they meant by providing context.  It could be as simple as showing the explosions from the relays just fizzle out meaning they weren't as powerful as expected.

I guarantee, based off some tweets about rebuilding the relays and crewmembers not starving, that the relays didn't destroy the galaxy.. how they explain this is still up for debate.

[thedosbox]

I'm disappointed they're not just cutting the ending off immediately after the conversation with Anderson.

[Ihatebadgames]

Then we did not get a middle finger for that is a bird.WE got a little pinky extended to us,for that is a feather and means we're not worth the full bird.

[TamiBx]

Cybermortis wrote...

Meaning that I'm probably old enough to be your dad...Oh dear God 

Then again, it does reinforce that Bioware's customers are of all ages and backgrounds I guess.

I'm not old enough to have seen the first two Star War's films at the cinema (Although British TV showed Star Wars at Christmas for several years in a row, so I'd seen it some 13 times (including TV recordings) by the time Return was released.

One of my earliest memories is, ironically, of Star Trek. I remember that a British cerial put a cutout of the Movie Enterprise on the back of their packs, so you could cut it out and make your own model. I remember my mother doing this for me...and when she handed it to me I pointed out she was holding it upside down.

Clearly I have always been a geek....

See, my mom was old enough to watch all of them in the movie theaters, but my dad was a child/young teen at the time of the 1st and 2nd movie(yes, they are THAT many years apat) 
And my first memory of video games was probably my mom defeating some boss battle in a Sonic game for Mega Drive...


See? ME3 horrible ending has brought not only people from different places together, but also people with completely different backgrounds, ages, beliefs...

I'm proud of all of us 

[SabishiiRyuu]

All right... Think I held the line long enough for the day. it's 5.35AM here so I'm off for some shuteye. See you soon, comrades.

[chmarr]

TamiBx wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...
Did they say anything about the multiplayer affecting single player EMS?

...thanks for reminding me.
And no 

~hugs tami~

no cry no cry

[Cybermortis]

The EMS issue will probably be addressed in a patch, much as the resource requirements in ME2 were changed in a patch. I'm guessing that they miscalculated the true value of the in-game assets (or possibly gave some assets the wrong value...never been entirely sure why the Normandy is worth more than the third and fifth Alliance fleets...).

A fairly minor screw up, and one that while annoying as heck is easy to deal with.

[Computim]

Cybermortis wrote...

The EMS issue will probably be addressed in a patch, much as the resource requirements in ME2 were changed in a patch. I'm guessing that they miscalculated the true value of the in-game assets (or possibly gave some assets the wrong value...never been entirely sure why the Normandy is worth more than the third and fifth Alliance fleets...).

A fairly minor screw up, and one that while annoying as heck is easy to deal with.

Agreed!  This is probably the easiest fix they can give the community.  Either raise the value of current war assets, or lower the costs to get the different endings.

[comrade gando]

Random post here, but I just thought of something. I think the devs expected this kind of backlash, in fact they counted on it. I noticed the pop up when you come to BSN that says zero tolerance for abuse towards moderators, dated March 2, a few days before ME3 release. They knew this ending was going to get people mad. Or maybe it's referring to the incident with another moderator a few months ago, or maybe I'm just off my rocker.

[chmarr]

Computim wrote...

chmarr wrote...

theres one thing that bioware has NOT even remarked on.
the mass relays explode they destroy entire solar systems planets and all life.
so how the F**K can they clarify the endings when EVERYONE IS STILL DEAD.
unless there using there space magic tipex and white out that huge cluster f**k

Their solution will probably be a Heisenberg Compensator.
For anyone who doesn't know about that it's a device that the writers of Star Trek: The Next Generation came up with to explain how Transporter (beaming) technology worked.

Heisenberg's uncertainty principle states that you can never know the exact location, physical position and momentum of an atom at the same time (due to various quantum physical constraints technobabble).
The writers came up with a "Heisenberg Compensator" which brought about a funny quote when Time Magazine asked "How does the Heisenberg Compensator work?" to which they received the response "It works very well, thank you".

They'll have some explaination in the cutscenes.. this is what they meant by providing context.  It could be as simple as showing the explosions from the relays just fizzle out meaning they weren't as powerful as expected.

I guarantee, based off some tweets about rebuilding the relays and crewmembers not starving, that the relays didn't destroy the galaxy.. how they explain this is still up for debate.

~ish a trekkie~
i might be a trekkie and i DO have star trek online
but i also met john d'lancie and had him sign a next gen origonal script "Q-who"
i then met Walter Koenig and had him sign an origonal star trek The wrath of khan script.
Walter Koenig is tiny compaired to me but he was very nice to talk to, i gave him some scottish shortbread to take home with him ^^

and heres me thinking it was the flux capaciter not getting enough energy

[TamiBx]

Computim wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

The EMS issue will probably be addressed in a patch, much as the resource requirements in ME2 were changed in a patch. I'm guessing that they miscalculated the true value of the in-game assets (or possibly gave some assets the wrong value...never been entirely sure why the Normandy is worth more than the third and fifth Alliance fleets...).

A fairly minor screw up, and one that while annoying as heck is easy to deal with.

Agreed!  This is probably the easiest fix they can give the community.  Either raise the value of current war assets, or lower the costs to get the different endings.

I just wish they would do this before or at the same time as they release that one very important dlc this summer, you know 

[Cant Planet]

TamiBx wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

...I have to google this. The internet geek in me cannot let this opportunity to acquire more useless knwoledge escape...


EDIT: 1982?!  Dude, that's like...I wasn't even born. 

I now officially hate you 

I'm old enough to have seen ET at the cinema (I didn't cry, my big tough aunt sobbed like a baby)...heck I saw Return of the Jedi at the cinema on its first day of release...and 'Back to the Future', 'Flash Gorden' and 'The Goonies'. That I'm now limping around with a cane is doing nothing to help me feel anything but old and cranky.

I'm going to sit in the corner and mutter about 'kids today' while practicing my cane-waving.

...I'm sorry!! 

It's ok, my mom saw Star Wars in the movie theaters and she doesn't like it at all, but I love it. So this is all about good taste, rather than age. 

Saw Star Wars in theaters? Check!
Owned Pong? Check!
Has childhood memories of the time before videogames? Check!

I WIN THE BEING-OLD-ON-THIS-THREAD TROPHY!

But ponder this... you're old enough to remember when not everyone had a cellphone, right?

Someday, before you know it, all the people you know who are younger than you by a generation or so will have grown up in a time where iPhones and Androids were normal, and for whom "a time before cellphones" will sound as weird as "a time before videogames" might seem to you! (My parents grew up with, like, three or four channels of black-and-white television, which to me when I was growing up might as well have meant living in a cave eating roots and berries.)

mindblown.gif

[chmarr]

Cybermortis wrote...

The EMS issue will probably be addressed in a patch, much as the resource requirements in ME2 were changed in a patch. I'm guessing that they miscalculated the true value of the in-game assets (or possibly gave some assets the wrong value...never been entirely sure why the Normandy is worth more than the third and fifth Alliance fleets...).

A fairly minor screw up, and one that while annoying as heck is easy to deal with.

would you agree with me on this.

everything in the game has became a screw up now??

[Computim]

comrade gando wrote...

Random post here, but I just thought of something. I think the devs expected this kind of backlash, in fact they counted on it. I noticed the pop up when you come to BSN that says zero tolerance for abuse towards moderators, dated March 2, a few days before ME3 release. They knew this ending was going to get people mad. Or maybe it's referring to the incident with another moderator a few months ago, or maybe I'm just off my rocker.

That was actually due to an attack back in late February on the Bioware Female employee.. I didn't even hear about it till recently (and still can't find much on it but Jessica Chobot was talking about it last week.. but it was basically to cut off some of the provocatory postings that incited the attack in the first place.

[Cybermortis]

TamiBx wrote...

And my first memory of video games was probably my mom defeating some boss battle in a Sonic game for Mega Drive...

See? ME3 horrible ending has brought not only people from different places together, but also people with completely different backgrounds, ages, beliefs...

I'm proud of all of us 

You do realise that I had that game and a Megadrive...

I used to think that the most depressing moment in my life, as far as feeling old goes, was when I had an entire conversation with a girl I remembered being born. Then I remembered a conversation I had with a friend when we both said, and I'm not kidding here, 'Don't think much of music today, not as good as when we were at school'. We looked at each other in horror for five minutes when we realised what we'd just said. Not least because we were *coughs* all of 17 at the time...

[chmarr]

Cant Planet wrote...
Saw Star Wars in theaters? Check!
Owned Pong? Check!
Has childhood memories of the time before videogames? Check!

I WIN THE BEING-OLD-ON-THIS-THREAD TROPHY!

But ponder this... you're old enough to remember when not everyone had a cellphone, right?

Someday, before you know it, all the people you know who are younger than you by a generation or so will have grown up in a time where iPhones and Androids were normal, and for whom "a time before cellphones" will sound as weird as "a time before videogames" might seem to you! (My parents grew up with, like, three or four channels of black-and-white television, which to me when I was growing up might as well have meant living in a cave eating roots and berries.)

mindblown.gif

Saw Star Wars in theaters? Check!
Owned Pong? Check!
Has childhood memories of the time before videogames? Check!
remembering there was only 3 channe;s in the uk  Check
remembering all tv shutdown at 11:55PM check
remembering all SHOPS shut at 5:30pm CHECK
buying a brand new betamax check
using an 8track in my dads car CHECK

i'm older

[FinalEndeavor]

RussianOrc wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

@Computim 
I didn't had time to respond back then, but i just want to say good job with your analisys of the Q&A.
You just gave me even more hope that the ending will be fixed and we will all be laughing at this when this is all over.
You are a valuable asset to our army.

I read that in Hackett's voice 

Hackett out.

Indeed...I dont even call him RussianOrc...Just Admiral Hackett lol

[RatedRRachel]

TamiBx wrote...

Computim wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

The EMS issue will probably be addressed in a patch, much as the resource requirements in ME2 were changed in a patch. I'm guessing that they miscalculated the true value of the in-game assets (or possibly gave some assets the wrong value...never been entirely sure why the Normandy is worth more than the third and fifth Alliance fleets...).

A fairly minor screw up, and one that while annoying as heck is easy to deal with.

Agreed!  This is probably the easiest fix they can give the community.  Either raise the value of current war assets, or lower the costs to get the different endings.

I just wish they would do this before or at the same time as they release that one very important dlc this summer, you know 

For sure. It is bad enough that there will still be space magic, but at least let the "single player only" players enjoy the fruits of their labor. If there really were 16 different endings, this would be my biggest gripe about the game. If they are sincere on having our choices somewhat matter in the end, then don't punish players who can't or don't want to play multiplayer. 

[TamiBx]

Cant Planet wrote...

Saw Star Wars in theaters? Check!
Owned Pong? Check!
Has childhood memories of the time before videogames? Check!

I WIN THE BEING-OLD-ON-THIS-THREAD TROPHY!

But ponder this... you're old enough to remember when not everyone had a cellphone, right?

Someday, before you know it, all the people you know who are younger than you by a generation or so will have grown up in a time where iPhones and Androids were normal, and for whom "a time before cellphones" will sound as weird as "a time before videogames" might seem to you! (My parents grew up with, like, three or four channels of black-and-white television, which to me when I was growing up might as well have meant living in a cave eating roots and berries.)

mindblown.gif

See, I grew up in Japan, so by the time I was 7, every single Japanese person owned a cellphone. I got my first cellphone when I was 9...

But I do remember when iPods weren't around, and I had to use a CD player to listen to my favorite songs. I was quite happy when I burned my first CD...<_<

[Cybermortis]

TamiBx wrote...

Computim wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

The EMS issue will probably be addressed in a patch, much as the resource requirements in ME2 were changed in a patch. I'm guessing that they miscalculated the true value of the in-game assets (or possibly gave some assets the wrong value...never been entirely sure why the Normandy is worth more than the third and fifth Alliance fleets...).

A fairly minor screw up, and one that while annoying as heck is easy to deal with.

Agreed!  This is probably the easiest fix they can give the community.  Either raise the value of current war assets, or lower the costs to get the different endings.

I just wish they would do this before or at the same time as they release that one very important dlc this summer, you know 

They are already working on a patch, so they will *probably* deal with it then. Bioware prefers to patch as many issues with a single download as possible - I'm guessing its easier, creates fewer bugs and is faster - especially since both Micosoft and Sony have to test and pass any patches before they become available for consoles. I know that BW haven't given any date for a patch as of yet, but I suspect that this is because they have zero control over the testing process for the console games - and given the uproar when PC owners of DA2 got their patch two weeks before the consoles they might have decided to only give a date when the patch is called for all platforms.

[Computim]

TamiBx wrote...

See, I grew up in Japan, so by the time I was 7, every single Japanese person owned a cellphone. I got my first cellphone when I was 9...

But I do remember when iPods weren't around, and I had to use a CD player to listen to my favorite songs. I was quite happy when I burned my first CD...<_<

Reminds me of a couple months back when my keyfob for my old car's battery was dead and I was like "How am I going to get into my car", father, who thankfully was with me at the time, sarcastically replied "Do what we did in the old days?  Use the key in the lock?"

I kinda facepalmed embarassingly. 

[Fallenfromthesky]

TamiBx wrote...

See, I grew up in Japan, so by the time I was 7, every single Japanese person owned a cellphone. I got my first cellphone when I was 9...

But I do remember when iPods weren't around, and I had to use a CD player to listen to my favorite songs. I was quite happy when I burned my first CD...<_<

I still use CD's YAY...oh god i'm behind the times

[Cant Planet]

Computim wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Cant Planet wrote...

Yes. Atari 2600. I've "played" it.

It was unimaginably bad brand-exploitation shovelware that is widely considered to have triggered the first game industry meltdown.

There are thousands of copies buried in a desert somewhere. That sounds like a joke, but it's actually not.

...I have to google this. The internet geek in me cannot let this opportunity to acquire more useless knwoledge escape...

hahaha.  I used to have an Intellivision II.. I think it was bought before I was born, it was old skool.  The games in it were so awesome I picked them up for Xbox 360 Arcade when they came out... the graphics being pretty much ascii art on an 8 bit color pallette seemed so much cooler back then hahaha

I knew one set of brothers with an original Atari, another with an original Intellivision, and I had a Colecovision. We would basically rotate whose house to hang out at to waste our sunny afternoons.