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The whole article is mocking the "retake" and complaining about the endings...

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As I have said repeatedly, we can get EA to change this ending.  The only thing they care about it money.

Bioware wants to feel superior to all of us, so they don't want to change a thing.


You know what really pisses me off though.

That Bioware knows for sure that at least 60,000 of their fans hated the ending.  And the are by and large completely OK with this fact.

What happened to the company that wanted to make a perfect game?  Where is the company that wouldn't settle for less than perfection?


that company died when they got a ton of cash from EA and got greedy for the wrong reasons.

DA2 could have been great if it stuck to the stroyline, DA2 should have been a direct follow on from DA:O.

ME1 was great ME2 was better ME3 was kick ass .... untill we ALL started to spot things were not fitting in right and the kick in the face with the nonsensicle ending with a kid we dident know about, then toss in the dreams which even bioware couldent explane.

seriiously bioware cant explane the dream sequences

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Computim wrote...

See I almost get the opposite from this last week...

Bioware is arguing artistic integrity, and EA is saying "GIVE THEM WHATEVER THEY WANT!"
EA is trying to get their origin platform off the ground.. that's a major major strategic goal for vertically integrating their retail chain.  It has far more ramifications for them, and for gamers than Bioware's artistic integrity.

Bioware replied "No." and excused it with Artistic Integrity."

So EA had a press release, unannounced on a Thursday morning about a new DLC... before even Mass Effect's Twitter people knew it was coming out... seems to me some interoffice politics... but I'm not sure.


:mellow: When did this happen??? I didn't know EA was pushing for a new ending....

I can't believe I'm about to say this. But if this is true thank goodness for EA now owning Bioware. If anybody can get Bioware to pull their heads out of their ****($ it'll be their head honchos

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Iconoclaste wrote...

I just watched the PAX videos on Youtube. Then I googled around for varia, I stumbled upon this :

http://doee.us/?p=520

If irony ever needed a description...


Oh that needs quoting! I'm laughing!

Mass Effect 3′s writer Casey Hudson tweeted “i spent minutes reading this review only to be completely ripped off by the worst ending ever i wanted to read a rievew of the game and he starts talking about his exwife and his kid. My dog can write a better review”


This is worthy of The Onion rofl. Image IPB Great find!

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ld1449 wrote...

Computim wrote...

See I almost get the opposite from this last week...

Bioware is arguing artistic integrity, and EA is saying "GIVE THEM WHATEVER THEY WANT!"
EA is trying to get their origin platform off the ground.. that's a major major strategic goal for vertically integrating their retail chain.  It has far more ramifications for them, and for gamers than Bioware's artistic integrity.

Bioware replied "No." and excused it with Artistic Integrity."

So EA had a press release, unannounced on a Thursday morning about a new DLC... before even Mass Effect's Twitter people knew it was coming out... seems to me some interoffice politics... but I'm not sure.


:mellow: When did this happen??? I didn't know EA was pushing for a new ending....

I can't believe I'm about to say this. But if this is true thank goodness for EA now owning Bioware. If anybody can get Bioware to pull their heads out of their ****($ it'll be their head honchos


...
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... I can't say it. I want to, yet I don't.
Oh the indecision!

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ld1449 wrote...

Computim wrote...

See I almost get the opposite from this last week...

Bioware is arguing artistic integrity, and EA is saying "GIVE THEM WHATEVER THEY WANT!"
EA is trying to get their origin platform off the ground.. that's a major major strategic goal for vertically integrating their retail chain.  It has far more ramifications for them, and for gamers than Bioware's artistic integrity.

Bioware replied "No." and excused it with Artistic Integrity."

So EA had a press release, unannounced on a Thursday morning about a new DLC... before even Mass Effect's Twitter people knew it was coming out... seems to me some interoffice politics... but I'm not sure.


:mellow: When did this happen??? I didn't know EA was pushing for a new ending....

I can't believe I'm about to say this. But if this is true thank goodness for EA now owning Bioware. If anybody can get Bioware to pull their heads out of their ****($ it'll be their head honchos


A significant part is speculation.  The original press release went out at like 5:30am in Edmonton, something this large would have had a planned PR response team for a normal release.  This is EA assuming direct control of the situation.. Corporations don't do that unless they're upset.  Between the "Worst company in America", Bioware's consistent "artistic integrity argument", and the effect on EA's Origin platform I think this was a bit of big brother slapping back.. EA doesn't just release press releases at 8am EDT, 5AM Bioware Time.. their average release time is 10am based off their investors website.

I'm just connecting dots and forming speculative conclusions... I do that a lot, it's part of my career haha.

The only basis in fact is evidence of previous behaviours and the facts we know about the release.

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Computim wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

I just watched the PAX videos on Youtube. Then I googled around for varia, I stumbled upon this :

http://doee.us/?p=520

If irony ever needed a description...


Oh that needs quoting! I'm laughing!

Mass Effect 3′s writer Casey Hudson tweeted “i spent minutes reading this review only to be completely ripped off by the worst ending ever i wanted to read a rievew of the game and he starts talking about his exwife and his kid. My dog can write a better review”


This is worthy of The Onion rofl. Image IPB Great find!

This "DoEE" is a satiric news site. The whole article sounds like an "inside joke" by mr Hudson and mr Muzika about what's been  going on here in the last weeks. If we doubt they are "listening", it is much less doubtful they are laughing at us.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 07 avril 2012 - 04:17 .


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thanks yjchew :)
i knew he was still around :)

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So I'm guessing I've missed nothing within the past 5 hours? I was here for the PAX stuff but went to sleep right afterwards...

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Nharia1 wrote...

So I'm guessing I've missed nothing within the past 5 hours? I was here for the PAX stuff but went to sleep right afterwards...


Nope. Except for a little conversation about age, video games, hitting page #3000...nope, nothing knew.
:)

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Computim wrote...

A significant part is speculation.  The original press release went out at like 5:30am in Edmonton, something this large would have had a planned PR response team for a normal release.  This is EA assuming direct control of the situation.. Corporations don't do that unless they're upset.  Between the "Worst company in America", Bioware's consistent "artistic integrity argument", and the effect on EA's Origin platform I think this was a bit of big brother slapping back.. EA doesn't just release press releases at 8am EDT, 5AM Bioware Time.. their average release time is 10am based off their investors website.

I'm just connecting dots and forming speculative conclusions... I do that a lot, it's part of my career haha.

The only basis in fact is evidence of previous behaviours and the facts we know about the release.


Hmmm...So...who else wants to start pressuring EA now? We may not have the numbers but their Origin account always asks (from what I know) why one wants to delete the account from the PC. If a couple hundred or more people put up "Because Mass Effect 3's ending sucks and the promised DLC isn't what we asked for." It'll put more pressure on them.

Put pressure on the "Big brother" so that "Big brother" comes back onto the little bro that's screwed up.

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Nharia1 wrote...

So I'm guessing I've missed nothing within the past 5 hours? I was here for the PAX stuff but went to sleep right afterwards...

Just missed the "Who's the Oldest game"And a bunch of PAX rehash.Unless I'm having a senior moment that was all.

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Just wanted to say how amazed, proud, and excited I am to be part of something like this. I ended the game in a bitter rage, and you've all given me hope, charity, and laughs for the past few days.

Thanks again everyone :D



So...this is what you posted on page 1000, about 24 days ago.
Did I mention you were on the top of the page too? Just like on page 3000?

This is creepy. :pinched:

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ld1449 wrote...

Computim wrote...

A significant part is speculation.  The original press release went out at like 5:30am in Edmonton, something this large would have had a planned PR response team for a normal release.  This is EA assuming direct control of the situation.. Corporations don't do that unless they're upset.  Between the "Worst company in America", Bioware's consistent "artistic integrity argument", and the effect on EA's Origin platform I think this was a bit of big brother slapping back.. EA doesn't just release press releases at 8am EDT, 5AM Bioware Time.. their average release time is 10am based off their investors website.

I'm just connecting dots and forming speculative conclusions... I do that a lot, it's part of my career haha.

The only basis in fact is evidence of previous behaviours and the facts we know about the release.


Hmmm...So...who else wants to start pressuring EA now? We may not have the numbers but their Origin account always asks (from what I know) why one wants to delete the account from the PC. If a couple hundred or more people put up "Because Mass Effect 3's ending sucks and the promised DLC isn't what we asked for." It'll put more pressure on them.

Put pressure on the "Big brother" so that "Big brother" comes back onto the little bro that's screwed up.


I'm pretty sure "Little Brother" probably has a narrative artistic integrity clause in their subsidiary agreement.. It was probably put in there to protect them from the evils of EA when they got bought.  Dunno for sure though.. if that's the case it explains the pushback more here... I'm sure EA has probably had countless conversations to explain what needs to happen here.. but nothing's changed. I could speculate this to death.. I just have a feeling there are so many competing agendas here that we don't know about.

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TamiBx wrote...

Computim wrote...

Just wanted to say how amazed, proud, and excited I am to be part of something like this. I ended the game in a bitter rage, and you've all given me hope, charity, and laughs for the past few days.

Thanks again everyone :D



So...this is what you posted on page 1000, about 24 days ago.
Did I mention you were on the top of the page too? Just like on page 3000?

This is creepy. :pinched:


Yeah hahaha.  Like I said, I need to start buying lottery tickets. Image IPB

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could be that the BBB and the FTC got in contact with them after all the bad press and EA finally had enough when they got the worst company in america award just pushed them over the edge.

biowares customer support is WORSE than EA's own.

some of the mods here actually ban people from origin when they ban them o these forums and a person has to go through loops to get his or her account unbanned.

the whole "art" ****storm has taken on a whole life of its own now and we cant stop it and why should we, since in biowares eyes were all "spoiled entitled brats"

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Ihatebadgames wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

So I'm guessing I've missed nothing within the past 5 hours? I was here for the PAX stuff but went to sleep right afterwards...

Just missed the "Who's the Oldest game"And a bunch of PAX rehash.Unless I'm having a senior moment that was all.


Missed that too.. Soo.. who is the oldest here?

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I love this guy.xD


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chmarr wrote...

could be that the BBB and the FTC got in contact with them after all the bad press and EA finally had enough when they got the worst company in america award just pushed them over the edge.

biowares customer support is WORSE than EA's own.

some of the mods here actually ban people from origin when they ban them o these forums and a person has to go through loops to get his or her account unbanned.

the whole "art" ****storm has taken on a whole life of its own now and we cant stop it and why should we, since in biowares eyes were all "spoiled entitled brats"


FTC never took up the complaint, twas in the news about a week ago.  Bioware's not a member of the BBB so they really have no requirement to even discuss stuff with them.  Dunno about EA.

The whole origin ban thing was a bug a few months back, if you look at the Terms of Service now they specifcally address that in it.

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RussianOrc wrote...

I love this guy.xD



Made my night :lol:
*currently watching*


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As my fading post, i would simply like to post a link to this image... hopefully it works. If not, please remove my post.

http://i.imgur.com/Qzpdo.png

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Computim wrote...

chmarr wrote...

could be that the BBB and the FTC got in contact with them after all the bad press and EA finally had enough when they got the worst company in america award just pushed them over the edge.

biowares customer support is WORSE than EA's own.

some of the mods here actually ban people from origin when they ban them o these forums and a person has to go through loops to get his or her account unbanned.

the whole "art" ****storm has taken on a whole life of its own now and we cant stop it and why should we, since in biowares eyes were all "spoiled entitled brats"


FTC never took up the complaint, twas in the news about a week ago.  Bioware's not a member of the BBB so they really have no requirement to even discuss stuff with them.  Dunno about EA.

The whole origin ban thing was a bug a few months back, if you look at the Terms of Service now they specifcally address that in it.


~CRIES~

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chmarr wrote...

Computim wrote...

chmarr wrote...

could be that the BBB and the FTC got in contact with them after all the bad press and EA finally had enough when they got the worst company in america award just pushed them over the edge.

biowares customer support is WORSE than EA's own.

some of the mods here actually ban people from origin when they ban them o these forums and a person has to go through loops to get his or her account unbanned.

the whole "art" ****storm has taken on a whole life of its own now and we cant stop it and why should we, since in biowares eyes were all "spoiled entitled brats"


FTC never took up the complaint, twas in the news about a week ago.  Bioware's not a member of the BBB so they really have no requirement to even discuss stuff with them.  Dunno about EA.

The whole origin ban thing was a bug a few months back, if you look at the Terms of Service now they specifcally address that in it.


~CRIES~


Oh.. and the easter bunny's actually a green glowing eyed evil creature who kills anyone still awake when he arrives to give you your eggs.

Sorry *hugs* Image IPB

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TamiBx wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...

I love this guy.xD



Made my night :lol:
*currently watching*


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I know the answer to this question is probably space magic but anyway.
Why did miranda has put a tracker on kai leng to find the cerberus HQ?I mean in the begining of ME2 she was on TIM's office, am i right?