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#7551
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Ít's called having high expectations something you should never have with a game because games are something that you got no real say in how there made what follows after it's called dissapointment when you don't get what you want.

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mulder1199 wrote...

still nobody has answered this that i've seen....did the leakers DL a patch before playing?

The patch is already included but you can activate it only on 6th of March. I don't know about Xio (X-Box or PS3), but PC version can't be played, 'tis not cracked, only movies, some audio and script can be seen/exstrackted, no in-game scenes.

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Elegana wrote...

[If they say that, fans are not going to believe them. Gamers have already shuffled through the .bik files on the PC version. Xoisite has played the game. Unless the endings are rendered-in game, then yeah, maybe there are other endings. But anything BioWare says BEFORE launch day could ruin them if they don't play their cards right. Yes, they'll have to say something AFTER launch day, but don't expect an official statement.

If you want to see what Devs are saying, lurk on Twitter. Someone already asked one dev what he thought about fans reacting to the leaked endings. He replied (I'm paraphasing here) "people should play the game instead of listening to the forums". There has been interviews. Casey Hudson did one with Giant Bomb and he said (paraphasing again): "It's been agonizing. We want to release the game. We're aware of how anxious fans are. We want the games out for the fans". 1up.com did any interview with Mac Walters, lead writer of ME3.

My advice? Believe what you want, but still play the game. If these endings are the only endings, then at least enjoy the other aspects of the games. If you want to see what devs are saying, keep an eye out on twitter and game sites. 


agreed, seeing them say things such as what you mention make me think these can't be the only endings, whether it's like you say 'in game' or via the day 1 patch adding the needed files....i still can't believe that they didn't think to add an end were some would say 'happy happy happy, joy joy joy'......come on bioware show me your brain

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EddieL wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

god dammit say something BioWare!!


They wont say anything, only laugh at everyones faces.


They're more likely to be in hiding hoping it all blows over.

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Elegana wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

god dammit say something BioWare!!

How can they? If they come in to confirm the endings, then they screwed themselves over. If they come in to deny the endings, it causes even MORE confusion as to why these endings exist AND/OR people will think BioWare is doing damage control and won't believe them. At this time, it's smart for BioWare to not say anything. 

all the would have to do is say no these are not the only endings there are more of them or something....i just so frustrated dam why di i stick my nose in this forum in the 1st place..stupi stupid mikey:(

If they say that, fans are not going to believe them. Gamers have already shuffled through the .bik files on the PC version. Xoisite has played the game. Unless the day-one patch contains the endings (highly unlikely, though) or unlocks files, then we're stuck with knowing that the current leaked endings are the true ones. But anything BioWare says BEFORE launch day could ruin them if they don't play their cards right. Yes, they'll have to say something AFTER launch day, but don't expect an official statement.

If you want to see what Devs are saying, lurk on Twitter. Someone already asked one dev what he thought about fans reacting to the leaked endings. He replied (I'm paraphasing here) "people should play the game instead of listening to the forums". There has been interviews. Casey Hudson did one with Giant Bomb and he said (paraphasing again): "It's been agonizing. We want to release the game. We're aware of how anxious fans are. We want the games out for the fans". 1up.com did any interview with Mac Walters, lead writer of ME3.

My advice? Believe what you want, but still play the game. If these endings are the only endings, then at least enjoy the other aspects of the games. If you want to see what devs are saying, keep an eye out on twitter and game sites. 


Dear, O'l Casey forgot that part about SATISFYING the fans.
How can one enjoy the game when the ending is S^*tty, MARK?!

#7556
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I think the answer to the continuation of the franchise is staring us in the face when the oldie is talking to the child at the end of the game. Mass Effect - the Next Generation. Staring the Kid in the epilogue as Commander Humpalot.

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thane0909 wrote...

EddieL wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

god dammit say something BioWare!!


They wont say anything, only laugh at everyones faces.


They're more likely to be in hiding hoping it all blows over.


That's what they did for DA2 and then blamed people for "not getting it".

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Nerevar-as wrote...
The weird thing is we just saw the fate of the Normandy and immediately realized all that was wrong with it. (The more I think about it the worse it gets). And a team of people who get their living writing didn´t? What the hell?

This is actually the one thing that gives me hope. Bioware isn't stupid. And it isn't in the business of shooting itself in the foot, especially after DA2. There has to be something we don't know. Something that will make all of this make sense.

Additionally... Mass Effect is a huge money maker for EA. They wouldn't let Bioware nuke the franchise (and the fanbase) like this. They just wouldn't.

There's another piece to this puzzle. There simply has to be.

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EddieL wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

god dammit say something BioWare!!

How can they? If they come in to confirm the endings, then they screwed themselves over. If they come in to deny the endings, it causes even MORE confusion as to why these endings exist AND/OR people will think BioWare is doing damage control and won't believe them. At this time, it's smart for BioWare to not say anything. 

all the would have to do is say no these are not the only endings there are more of them or something....i just so frustrated dam why di i stick my nose in this forum in the 1st place..stupi stupid mikey:(

If they say that, fans are not going to believe them. Gamers have already shuffled through the .bik files on the PC version. Xoisite has played the game. Unless the day-one patch contains the endings (highly unlikely, though) or unlocks files, then we're stuck with knowing that the current leaked endings are the true ones. But anything BioWare says BEFORE launch day could ruin them if they don't play their cards right. Yes, they'll have to say something AFTER launch day, but don't expect an official statement.

If you want to see what Devs are saying, lurk on Twitter. Someone already asked one dev what he thought about fans reacting to the leaked endings. He replied (I'm paraphasing here) "people should play the game instead of listening to the forums". There has been interviews. Casey Hudson did one with Giant Bomb and he said (paraphasing again): "It's been agonizing. We want to release the game. We're aware of how anxious fans are. We want the games out for the fans". 1up.com did any interview with Mac Walters, lead writer of ME3.

My advice? Believe what you want, but still play the game. If these endings are the only endings, then at least enjoy the other aspects of the games. If you want to see what devs are saying, keep an eye out on twitter and game sites. 


Dear, O'l Casey forgot that part about SATISFYING the fans.
How can one enjoy the game when the ending is S^*tty, MARK?!

I recall there was a recent interview with him saying "Some people will be happy with the endings. Others will not".
You can't satisfy everyone. But hopefully they can satisfy the majorty.

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ratzerman wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...
The weird thing is we just saw the fate of the Normandy and immediately realized all that was wrong with it. (The more I think about it the worse it gets). And a team of people who get their living writing didn´t? What the hell?

This is actually the one thing that gives me hope. Bioware isn't stupid. And it isn't in the business of shooting itself in the foot, especially after DA2. There has to be something we don't know. Something that will make all of this make sense.

Additionally... Mass Effect is a huge money maker for EA. They wouldn't let Bioware nuke the franchise (and the fanbase) like this. They just wouldn't.

There's another piece to this puzzle. There simply has to be.


You realize BioWare defended Dragon Age 2 and never admitted anything wrong with it, right?

Also, a lot of people sadly liked it.

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ratzerman wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...
The weird thing is we just saw the fate of the Normandy and immediately realized all that was wrong with it. (The more I think about it the worse it gets). And a team of people who get their living writing didn´t? What the hell?

This is actually the one thing that gives me hope. Bioware isn't stupid. And it isn't in the business of shooting itself in the foot, especially after DA2. There has to be something we don't know. Something that will make all of this make sense.

Additionally... Mass Effect is a huge money maker for EA. They wouldn't let Bioware nuke the franchise (and the fanbase) like this. They just wouldn't.

There's another piece to this puzzle. There simply has to be.


I sincerly hope you're right.

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I've been having a bit of a FF nostalgia afternoon



Now thats what I call a cinematic.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 02 mars 2012 - 02:44 .


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Aesieru wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...
The weird thing is we just saw the fate of the Normandy and immediately realized all that was wrong with it. (The more I think about it the worse it gets). And a team of people who get their living writing didn´t? What the hell?

This is actually the one thing that gives me hope. Bioware isn't stupid. And it isn't in the business of shooting itself in the foot, especially after DA2. There has to be something we don't know. Something that will make all of this make sense.

Additionally... Mass Effect is a huge money maker for EA. They wouldn't let Bioware nuke the franchise (and the fanbase) like this. They just wouldn't.

There's another piece to this puzzle. There simply has to be.


You realize BioWare defended Dragon Age 2 and never admitted anything wrong with it, right?

Also, a lot of people sadly liked it.

Casey said "Deception" was awesome. BioWare recently admitted it was pretty bad and promised to rewrite it. Perhaps they have learned from DA2.

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ratzerman wrote...

Additionally... Mass Effect is a huge money maker for EA. They wouldn't let Bioware nuke the franchise (and the fanbase) like this. They just wouldn't.


Unfortunately, they let them do it with Dragon Age, so the chances of it happening with ME are high.

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mulder1199 wrote...

still nobody has answered this that i've seen....did the leakers DL a patch before playing?


The patch is for MP and a couple small SP things.  There is no new hidden endling in there.  The endings seen are the endings in the game, folks.  BW prepped us for this by saying the ending isn't going to make everybody happy.  That pretty much says outright that you are not going to have the choices you expected to have.

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I hope Mass Effect 3 doesn't become like Dragon Age 2 where they gave choices to pick, but in the end it won't actually have impact on the ending whatsoever.

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GreyWarden36 wrote...

I hope Mass Effect 3 doesn't become like Dragon Age 2 where they gave choices to pick, but in the end it won't actually have impact on the ending whatsoever.


Well you get a different colour, that was something you never got in DA2.

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tishyw wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Additionally... Mass Effect is a huge money maker for EA. They wouldn't let Bioware nuke the franchise (and the fanbase) like this. They just wouldn't.


Unfortunately, they let them do it with Dragon Age, so the chances of it happening with ME are high.


In fact, EA wanted DA2 out as soon as possible to capitalize Origins success. Although I don´t think many of DA2 flaws would have been avoided by another year in the dry dock (i.e, combat waves seem a design choice, not a problem of time), EA efectively made BW shoot themselves on the foot.

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https://twitter.com/#!/manveerheir

User asked Manveer on Twitter:

A question for the person leaking Mass Effect 3 spoilers and the outlets that are printing them: What the hell are you doing?

Manveer replies:

@Andrew_Reiner no no, all the work we did out of context is totally great don't you see?

(And yeah, Manveer did say what Elegana said. He mentioned it yesterday, about people needing to play the game not believe everything they read on the forums. As ever, it could just be damage control though, so just make whatever you want of it.

I've always said context is key myself, alongside saying that the endings may be satisfactory when viewed properly after playing the game. More satisfactory than reading text summaries that are brief and could have details muddled anyway. Also, the Something Awful leaker didn't seem be too sure about the Normandy being 'definitely stranded'. You can see where I quoted him if you go back a few pages or view my history.)

Modifié par Rob_K1, 02 mars 2012 - 02:56 .


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BobSmith101 wrote...

thane0909 wrote...

EddieL wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

god dammit say something BioWare!!


They wont say anything, only laugh at everyones faces.


They're more likely to be in hiding hoping it all blows over.


That's what they did for DA2 and then blamed people for "not getting it".


Ah yes the old "not getting it" line.... I remember for final fantasy xiii they blamed it on western attitudes to gaming....... nice <_<.

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Capeo wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

still nobody has answered this that i've seen....did the leakers DL a patch before playing?


The patch is for MP and a couple small SP things.  There is no new hidden endling in there.  The endings seen are the endings in the game, folks.  BW prepped us for this by saying the ending isn't going to make everybody happy.  That pretty much says outright that you are not going to have the choices you expected to have.


They had to know this would make hardly anyone happy. I would ask if they are so blind, but they approved Deception after all.. .so maybe they are.

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I think people wouldnt be so worried if we didn't have that terrible, terrible Deception book immediately prior to this...which spat on everything lorewise.

Seems like since DA2, everything has gone downhill. THATS why I am worried.

Modifié par Risselda, 02 mars 2012 - 02:55 .


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Risselda wrote...

I think people wouldnt be so worried if we didn't have that terrible, terrible Deception book immediately prior to this...which spat on everything lorewise.


Also the article about "it's about the jouney - not the destination".

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DifferentD17 wrote...

Risselda wrote...

I think people wouldnt be so worried if we didn't have that terrible, terrible Deception book immediately prior to this...which spat on everything lorewise.


Also the article about "it's about the jouney - not the destination".


Or the fact that the storytelling from ME1 to ME3 has pretty much been a downward slope from start to finish. 

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Acrylium wrote...

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Quoted because its too Godamn hilarious to leave crushed under the weight of  the nearly 80 pages of posts that have followed it.