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[Major Swift]

@Hezz, just read your comment there on the last part of my rewrite, thank you so much!

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Nharia1 wrote...
I wish I had the software that could just type as I speak...

Hahaha I'm sure that would be handy.

[thehomeworld]

Yeah if I suddenly have to team up with the reapers to defeat people I'm going to so not buy that game its bad enough the geth were made into misunderstood badguys if they keep this up someone's going to come out with a movie showing hitler as a misunderstood, lonely, mass murderer really if they're our badguys they should stay that way.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Major Swift wrote...

@Hezz, just read your comment there on the last part of my rewrite, thank you so much!

No problem at all. I only speak the truth 

[CitizenSnips28]

Agreed ID1449
I much prefer the Reapers when they were unknowable deep space horrors. Now they benevolent but stupid. Even accepting the premises that organics will always be killed by synthetics, there are alot of ways to achieve their goals without killing the ones they are trying to save.

[SkaldFish]

ld1449 wrote...
See, I would be perfectly fine with them NOT explaining the reapers origins, at all.

When you start in part one by saying "We are beyond your comprehension" Then litterally MAKE IT beyond our comprehension. Don't try to rationalize or explain it so that we can all get it. Just stick from part one to part 3. "You mere mortals are just too stupid to know" Period.

Explaining their motivations tunes the reapers down from this implacable, impossible force into something much more concrete and malleable to the perspective of the reader/player. "If they want this then we can do this" ect ect ect.

Will it dissapoint some people? Absolutely, they'll see it as a copout. But for me, that is a level of speculation that would be great for this game. For almost the entire ME series since I played part one I was trying to figure out what they could possibly want and came up with 3 theories, One which I can say is a fairly good one given the context ME2 brought.

So yea. For me, from start to finish if they would have just kept on repeating. "This is too much chuck noris for your mind to grasp" that woulda been just fine.

^^^This!

I think somebody made the point a while back that we get details where there should be mystery and big gaping holes where we should have gotten details. Hence the agument that the one of the biggest problems behind it all is just very bad storytelling.

[B33ker]

Cybermortis wrote...

B33ker wrote...

Found this and had to share.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2rhu2iq.jpg

Mass Effect 4 Reapers - We are your friends, look we brought ice-cream and everything....You want the blue, green or red flavour?

Why not just a rainbow sherbert kinda thing with sprinkles on it?
Gotta have sprinkles, they represent the space magic dust! 

[chosen_trekie]

ld1449 wrote...

See, I would be perfectly fine with them NOT explaining the reapers origins, at all.

Me too.  If they had left that open to "a lot of speculation from everyone" that would have been cool.

[thehomeworld]

ld1449 wrote...

B33ker wrote...

Found this and had to share.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2rhu2iq.jpg

Mass Effect 1 Reapers - Our motives are beyond your comprehension because WE are beyond your comprehension.  You are nothing and you will die like nothing.

Mass Effect 2 Reapers - Our motives are to expand our species and improve yours.  Prepare for ascension mortals.

Mass Effect 3 Reapers - Our motives are really ****ing retarded.  We have to destroy everyone to save... everyone?  I don't know- seriously man, just roll with it.  We have no clue what we're doing either.

See, I would be perfectly fine with them NOT explaining the reapers origins, at all.

When you start in part one by saying "We are beyond your comprehension" Then litterally MAKE IT beyond our comprehension. Don't try to rationalize or explain it so that we can all get it. Just stick from part one to part 3. "You mere mortals are just too stupid to know" Period.

Explaining their motivations tunes the reapers down from this implacable, impossible force into something much more concrete and malleable to the perspective of the reader/player. "If they want this then we can do this" ect ect ect.

Will it dissapoint some people? Absolutely, they'll see it as a copout. But for me, that is a level of speculation that would be great for this game. For almost the entire ME series since I played part one I was trying to figure out what they could possibly want and came up with 3 theories, One which I can say is a fairly good one given the context ME2 brought.

So yea. For me, from start to finish if they would have just kept on repeating. "This is too much chuck noris for your mind to grasp" that woulda been just fine.

Yeah I like the explanation of, " In reaperville we harvest organics, deal with it " rather then the " We sentient machines exist to destroy all organics that are tecno savvy so that their machines won't destroy them."

[Iakus]

 I don't know if teh old Twitter thread exists anymore, but there is at least a little good news to be had about the extended ending:  

twitter.com/#!/PatrickWeekes/status/188687274320461824

All the writers are working on it this time!

[TamiBx]

chosen_trekie wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

See, I would be perfectly fine with them NOT explaining the reapers origins, at all.

Me too.  If they had left that open to "a lot of speculation from everyone" that would have been cool.

http://i1264.photobu...Speculation.jpg

[SkaldFish]

thehomeworld wrote...
Yeah I like the explanation of, " In reaperville we harvest organics, deal with it " rather then the " We sentient machines exist to destroy all organics that are tecno savvy so that their machines won't destroy them."

Hmmm... "Reaperville"... I think you just named the upcoming Mass Effect Facebook game.

[XIzCarnageXIXZ]

just going to leave this here LOL

[ld1449]

My original theory for the reapers after witnessing ME2 was that when the first civilization grew and encompassed the galaxy, they ran out of resources. Kinda like the drell only alot worse. The reapers eventually grew sentient, wiped out organic life, harvesting them and preserving them in reaper form. Then, every couple of thousand years, they come back, wipe out the most advanced, widespread races, that they deem "worthy" and preserve them in Reaper form in order to ensure that such a mass galactic overpopulation never happens again. So in my theory, Reapers were basically living museums of the races that had come before ours. That is why they were "Our salvation through destruction."

Also...something just occurred to me. Where in the bloody hell are the salarian husks???

[TamiBx]

iakus wrote...

 I don't know if teh old Twitter thread exists anymore, but there is at least a little good news to be had about the extended ending:  

twitter.com/#!/PatrickWeekes/status/188687274320461824

All the writers are working on it this time!

Ahm, after the amazing three colored plothole filled (open?) ending, I am pretty sure they would want every single writer to help out.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

TamiBx wrote...

Ahm, after the amazing three colored plothole filled (open?) ending, I am pretty sure they would want every single writer to help out.

Yeah and I don't even think that will be enough to be perfectly honest.

[SkaldFish]

iakus wrote...

 I don't know if teh old Twitter thread exists anymore, but there is at least a little good news to be had about the extended ending:  

twitter.com/#!/PatrickWeekes/status/188687274320461824

All the writers are working on it this time!

That is good news. I just wish we didn't have so many vague statements about the real scope of the DLC. Maybe they just don't know yet, but some of the PR remarks (a.k.a. the FAQ) are so dismissive I have to say it's difficult to be optimistic.

[ld1449]

TamiBx wrote...

Ahm, after the amazing three colored plothole filled (open?) ending, I am pretty sure they would want every single writer to help out.

Which is somewhat encouraging. I'm sure the writers are looking at Mac and Casey and Shaking their heads.

"Son. I am dissapoint."<_<

[Iakus]

TamiBx wrote...

Ahm, after the amazing three colored plothole filled (open?) ending, I am pretty sure they would want every single writer to help out.

Well, they'd want almost every single writer helping out, at least :innocent:

And while I am skeptical that they can pull it off myself, at least it looks like they'll make a serious effort.

[B33ker]

xHezz90 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Ahm, after the amazing three colored plothole filled (open?) ending, I am pretty sure they would want every single writer to help out.

Yeah and I don't even think that will be enough to be perfectly honest.

We need infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters to craft the outcome!

Course it will be covered in poo........then again, what we got was already poo......symmetry!

[Bionic Weapon]

SkaldFish wrote...

thehomeworld wrote...
Yeah I like the explanation of, " In reaperville we harvest organics, deal with it " rather then the " We sentient machines exist to destroy all organics that are tecno savvy so that their machines won't destroy them."

Hmmm... "Reaperville"... I think you just named the upcoming Mass Effect Facebook game.

No no no!!! Don't give them ideas.

Oh man can you imagine that? 

[VivaLaWhatsername]

B33ker wrote...

We need infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters to craft the outcome!

Course it will be covered in poo........then again, what we got was already poo......symmetry!

Haha I agree. To paraphrase Angry Joe:

They're basically telling us why their poop stinks, instead of giving us something that isn't smelly poop

Modifié par xHezz90, 07 avril 2012 - 07:31 .

[Nharia1]

okay I fail at playing a Krogan... Back to the Quarian Infiltrator

Modifié par Nharia1, 07 avril 2012 - 07:34 .

[Lwyn]

SkaldFish wrote...

That is good news. I just wish we didn't have so many vague statements about the real scope of the DLC. Maybe they just don't know yet, but some of the PR remarks (a.k.a. the FAQ) are so dismissive I have to say it's difficult to be optimistic.

This exactly. Why can't they just cut the PR crap and give a straight and honest answer to what we can reasonably expect from the DLC. Add as many caveats as necessary but gamers, consumers and people in general appreciate honesty.
Especially since their current PR strategy has infuriated more people that it has placated.

[Reptilian Rob]

TamiBx wrote...

iakus wrote...

 I don't know if teh old Twitter thread exists anymore, but there is at least a little good news to be had about the extended ending:  

twitter.com/#!/PatrickWeekes/status/188687274320461824

All the writers are working on it this time!

Ahm, after the amazing three colored plothole filled (open?) ending, I am pretty sure they would want every single writer to help out.

INB4 Hudson's ego ruins it again.