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[Mr Chr15topher]

BlackDevil06 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

*snip*
I think this might be worse than ME3 ending. At least Shepard isn't having a dance battle with Starchild on the Citadel. 

Don't give them any ideas for the Extendet Cut!

Could you imagine that? you can only get the best ending where everyone lives and the relays don't blow up if you can teach Shepard to dance? An impossible task.

[Major Swift]

i dont know why but this reminded me of the ending, think it was just the beginning that did

[GroverA125]

xcomcmdr wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

xcomcmdr wrote...

I wasn't even aware HTC and Retake were two distinct groups until a few hours ago.

That's a shame really.

I mean, WTH ?!

Feels like an earth quake. Much like the ending.

wait, what? 

start:
http://www.holdtheli...e-movement.658/
next :
http://www.holdtheli...ty-attempt.668/
now :
http://www.holdtheli...-need-calm.676/

It's going to be resolved quickly, apparently. But still, I was shocked.

How the hell'd this slip the net?

So let me get this straight, we have two sides who are fighting for the same thing, but aren't collaborating? Grab a damn moving buddy and lets solve this issue now, before we begin to see the consequences.

We get all of our people working in collaboration at once, we have a far greater chance of doing something. One immense blackout is far more of a groin-shot to EAware than two small ones are. We resolve this ASAP, or things will get really hairy damn fast.

Don't let independant beliefs of one person bring us down, we all fight together ladies and gentlemen, That's how we're going to win this. Currently we have media backing, while EAwares move with EC may cause issues, we can keep what we have, or maybe even gain some, with some slick convincing on our part. I'm sure the higher-ups are already planning their speeches (and if not, get those scripts written up.). Now all that's left is for us, the individuals to play our part. Whether we win this battle or not, this is attrition, it's not a standoff yet. We haven't got everything out on the table yet, so we have some lee-way with the effort. If we can keep our voices loud and clear, even if we don't win with this EC, then we still house the chance of getting what we want. I'm sure that not everyone in Bioware is happy with the idea with screwing over a considerable group of their fans (no matter how you look at it: 50,000+ people is a lot of people) and as such, I wouldn't be suprised if writers on the inside are hoping as much as we are that they get the green light to appease their fans.

We need to let them realise two things: One: there's a lot of us, many of us have been loyal from their origin, others later, and we're all not satisfied. Two: They are perfectly capable of making both sides happy, we're not cavemen, you can sit us at a table and we'll happily try to find a way of keeping all sides of the argument happy. (I could explain in depth, but I'm hoping I don't have to)

[Arad-Tzui]

Not overly excited about the recent announcement. It may solve some of the issues I have with no ultimate consequences for your actions, it may not, but judging by the announcement war assets still won't impact how the final mission plays, and the ending options are still not at all in line with what makes sense for my way of playing the game.

Judging by what we know now, I'm still disappointed, and if all the "closure" is the same for everyone (mostly), then I'll remain of the opinion that ME3 has ruined the series.

[chmarr]

Cybermortis wrote...
Why do you think more than a few reviewers either went very quiet, or started being less defensive about the game after some two weeks? The reason is that they suddenly realised they had not, in fact, seen the full game and therefore were looking like idiots for saying it was the perfect ending to the series. (Incidently, this also seems to be the same time frame in which the 'artistic intergity' argument started to be used).

So it looks like BW not only ticked off customers, but probably more than a few gaming journalists as well - which may well come back to bite Bioware when they release their next title. (From what I can gather at least two IGN reviewers seemed less than impressed at ME3 in an interview a week or so ago...which makes me suspect there is going to be some lingering resentment at being made to look like fools by defending the ending initially, and later having to continue backing ME3 to avoid having to admit that).

Important note; Some people would unquestionably claim that the ending was 'cut' from the review copies because BW knew it was bad. However I suspect the real reason was simply because BW wanted to keep the ending a secret for as long as possible and didn't want the ending leaked, which could spoil the story for people. I suspect this based on the fact that BW seems to have been genuinely taken by surprise by the scale of the complaints. I've seen no indication that BW had any suspision that the ending would be so badly received - the change in forum rules just before release were almost certainly down to personal attacks made when DA2 was released - or in other words experience had shown BW that any release would attract the more...combative...posters regardless of the games quality.

(would have replied sooner but the stitches in my mouth burst)

the ending would have been removed for the reason you said so not to spoil it BUT it also means the reviewers were given incomplete games it also makes me think what else was removed that is in the full version .......... sorry let me rephrase that "in the retail" version.

now bioware should have learned from the DA2 debacle and they should have shown the full version to reviewers but instead they gave them an edited one which means all the reviews would be null and void since they never actually reviewed the full game but a demo

[Rdubs]

CDHarrisUSF wrote...

iakus wrote...

twitter.com/#!/PatrickWeekes/status/188687274320461824

All the writers are working on it this time!

It's a bit late for that if a complete rewrite of the ending is off the table.

They're going to need all the help they can get to try to polish this turd.

Oh my goodness I can't believe Weekes wrote that, LOL.  Notice how he mentions "all of the writers", as in if to say "clue in guys, that penny arcade post was real.".  The writers who were shut out of the ending earlier must be having quite a bit of schadenfreude right about now.

[Major Swift]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...
Could you imagine that? you can only get the best ending where everyone lives and the relays don't blow up if you can teach Shepard to dance? An impossible task.

lol impossible indeed

[Rdubs]

If I had a twitter account I'd write him and be like, "I hope all those ideas you had about how the ending would play out get included this time! They were exactly what we had wanted to see!". See what he says.

[Computim]

GroverA125 wrote...

How the hell'd this slip the net?

So let me get this straight, we have two sides who are fighting for the same thing, but aren't collaborating? Grab a damn moving buddy and lets solve this issue now, before we begin to see the consequences.

We get all of our people working in collaboration at once, we have a far greater chance of doing something. One immense blackout is far more of a groin-shot to EAware than two small ones are. We resolve this ASAP, or things will get really hairy damn fast.

Don't let independant beliefs of one person bring us down, we all fight together ladies and gentlemen, That's how we're going to win this. Currently we have media backing, while EAwares move with EC may cause issues, we can keep what we have, or maybe even gain some, with some slick convincing on our part. I'm sure the higher-ups are already planning their speeches (and if not, get those scripts written up.). Now all that's left is for us, the individuals to play our part. Whether we win this battle or not, this is attrition, it's not a standoff yet. We haven't got everything out on the table yet, so we have some lee-way with the effort. If we can keep our voices loud and clear, even if we don't win with this EC, then we still house the chance of getting what we want. I'm sure that not everyone in Bioware is happy with the idea with screwing over a considerable group of their fans (no matter how you look at it: 50,000+ people is a lot of people) and as such, I wouldn't be suprised if writers on the inside are hoping as much as we are that they get the green light to appease their fans.

We need to let them realise two things: One: there's a lot of us, many of us have been loyal from their origin, others later, and we're all not satisfied. Two: They are perfectly capable of making both sides happy, we're not cavemen, you can sit us at a table and we'll happily try to find a way of keeping all sides of the argument happy. (I could explain in depth, but I'm hoping I don't have to)

I'm not getting into a power struggle with the Facebook Batallion.  BSN Batallion is its own beast, HTL Batallion is its own, and Twitter Batallion is its own. 

Different Batallions, one goal, one purpose.  We don't control what Facebook Batallion talks about, and we ignore when they tell other batallions what to do.

We're still holding the line, just with different methods

[Major Swift]

Rdubs wrote...

If I had a twitter account I'd write him and be like, "I hope all those ideas you had about how the ending would play out get included this time! They were exactly what we had wanted to see!". See what he says.

lol i would with my twitter but none of the people from Bioware have replied to any of my tweets thus far

[Atrocity]

G'night lads and lasses, I need to get some sleep now.

[Tyion133]

Atrocity wrote...

G'night lads and lasses, I need to get some sleep now.

G'night Atro ^^

[Bruinbear]

So I was offline for the last 3 days. Just catching up on the PAX panel's "discussion." Their tactics have given me a great idea for my own job (teaching). Next time I screw up at work, I should say that my lessons were so beautiful (hence artwork) that they don't need to be fixed. Sadly, I have a feeling that I would be shown the door fairly quickly.

*Sigh* I want to believe that this "extended cut" is going to make me want to play ME 1-3 again as were my plans before I finished ME3 for the first time. But I have wanted to believe so much of the pre-release comments (eg Casey's non A B C endings) and post release twitter comments (eg Gamble's "You will want to keep your copy forever after you hear what we have planned.")

I really feel Bioware and I are on the:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me plan.

Someone earlier in this thread basically said that they are now an "optimistic pessimist." This sums up my feelings exactly.

To go from one of Bioware's raving fanboys to this...it is quite a fall from grace.

As I said in my letters to Bioware, it is time to make it right.

My apologies for the rambling rant here. Just needed to vent a little since my wife is getting tired of hearing my ME3 rage. =/

[th3C0y0t3]

Hello Lineguards,

some thoughts about the end and the discussion. I was not exactly sure where to post, it is imo not worth a thread by its own, so i will post it here. And this thread moves fast enough to bury this post if it does not fit:

The End: Jawot - Just another wall of text


It is funny or shocking how a game can capture ones attention. Not that i play the game at all after my first playthrough, but i visit this forum – especially this thread - now on an almost daily base. I would say this is a clear prove that Bioware delivered something really special, that the Mass Effekt franchise is really special. Unfortunally in this case the attention is paired with bad feelings, at least by some of the people here, especially towards one small but important part of the game – the end.


I really liked the game until i reached the end. Ok some parts, like the journal, the soon fixed face import bug or the faith of some minor characters, still need some love, but the greatness of rest of the game made this to minor “problems“. And certainly most of this points will be fixed sooner or later, either by patch or paided DLC. Not perfect, some of the points certainly would have caused minor uproars, but in the long term nothing serious. But than the end really crushed the experience.


I still would say Mass Effect – also with the end – would be fair rated with 8/10 or even 9/10. Honestly, most of the game is great, i had some really enjoyable hours playing Mass Effect 3 and the overall length of the good parts of the game justify a good rating. But also honestly, because of the end i would not longer recommend the game, like said haven´t played it since reaching the end and wouldn´t consider to buy any DLC. It is quite sad to see how some minutes can dominate the opinion.


Now it would be really easy to say: Too bad, not an satisfying end like i hoped. But ok some like it, i not, so leave the game and go on. But like said before Bioware delivered something really special – something less special couldn´t have such an uproar. And the situation already changed and Bioware will provide a closure DLC.


Now it would be easy to accept Bioware decisions and accept this extended cut as last word. Sure, somehow it seems possible to accept the extended version as an acceptable end. It will provide, at least it is advertised, closure and answer to open questions together with an epilog. And it will be for free. So it should be a great news. But somehow this doesn´t look like a real solution of the topic.


There is a saying about politicians and serious scandals: Not the scandal itself will bring the politician to fall, it will be how he will handle the scandal. I fear something similar happend here. The handling of the situation made the situation more troublesome than it has to be.


I´m quite sure that the planed extended cut version of the delivered end would have worked as original end of the game. Perhaps even this end had been loved in this case. It seems quite possible that the anouncement of the extended cut had solved the tension arised by the end, if the extended cut had been anounced one or two weeks after the release of the game. It would be perhaps not the really loved ending, but at least an acceptable one. But now, one month after the release, the actual end has become already to an symbol what went wrong and is much more than an ending.


And as symbol this end will almost always cause bad feelings. Only a really sensational awesome extended cut could even try to counter this feeling. And there will be some more weeks until this extended cut will be delivered, which makes the situation, considering the reception of the extended cut, much more complicated. I fear to force everybody to see the starkid seems not really suiteable to clam down the tensions. Sure the discussion will sooner or later stop, but most likely the tensions will be there, still boiling under the surface.


But i don´t think that it can be really expected that the actual end will be removed from the game. The entire indoctrination theory seems to be build as workaround to still have the old ending in a creative way as part of a really new ending in the game. But i fear such a wide reaching change of the end will not be really possible and that the actual end must be – at least – part of the final set of endings. It is not really unlikely that already some follow up storys which include or build upon this end are planed and the complete removal of the actual end would require a cost intensive and complete rework of this plans. Of course this would also explain why Bioware sticks to the actual end.


Another reason is that the game was released and there are people who like the end. A complete removal of the end would affront them. And exactly like i would see my opinion honored, their opinion should also be honored.


Of course there will be no way that the end of Mass Effect 3 will make everybody happy. But given the restrains – the actual end must be one end but it can also no be the end that everybody will see – only additional added ends seems like a really satisfying solution. Some would like to see a real bad end – losing the fight, there could be a Javik-like defeat in the cycle with hope for the next, than the could be the existing end (the reaper end) and than there could be one or more new Shepard ends which completely skips the starkid.


(Side note: Even if a „happy end“ for Shepard and his crew will happen. Honestly this is not really a happy end, this is bittersweet. Most home planets of the known races are battlefield and devasted, most cities utterely destroyed and already millions or billions death. Some former crew members died, other crew members most likely lost relatives. If this already is considered as happy end, than i would say only a complete defeat would count as bittersweet end. But to confuse a classical heroic suicide rescue the day end with a bittersweet end is not that hard.)


Not sure if it is acceptable for Bioware, from the financial and artist point of view, to make far reaching changes. The financial acceptable size for an ending DLC can´t be really determined. But it seems there is at least some free money for the ending. And the art part of the question is even more difficult to answer.


Games can be art, stories can be art. Even if they are products, they can be art. A bit nitpicking: Making an end which is able to create such a strong reaction must be the work of a true artist. One of the mentioned reasons for not changing the end or adding additional ends to the game is the artistic vision for the game. Some nice points about changing stories can be found here:


http://techgnotic.de...ET_Storytelling


My opinion: Art is precious. No artist ever should be forced to change his art against his will. But art shall be always open to critism (which shouldn´t be confused with damnation). Therefore no artist should ever expect or demand that his vision is liked or shared. But if or if not the artist changes his art because of the received feedback is only his decision. If art is made for others – not as commercial product - perhaps a change is more likely: Why should an artist risk to alienate a big portion of audience if a change is acceptable for him? But this certainly depends on the kind of audience and the exact kind of art.


If art is also a product, a commercial product, the situtation is a bit more difficult. Still, no artist shall be forced to change his art against his will. But - strongly simplfied formulated - the artist should try to deliver a product which is acceptable for both sides: for him and his customers. If he fails, he can try to cover the issues later, immediately or never. His reaction will than determine if he will be successful in the long term. By contract work it is not really uncommon that the contractor demands changes and , up to a certain level the artist fullfils this demands. And if both sides can´t find a solution, which is acceptable for both, the artist can lose or doesn´t get the contract. While we are not really contractors in this case, this is certainly an interesting aspect in the future of gaming with all this crowd funding games, but also shows that changes to art which is a product are tolerable, as long as the artist can accept the change.


Video games are special and allow a quite immediately reaction and are now not really static. Every DLC is a change of the product and can alter the art, for example a story DLC expands the story and can greatly change the experience a certain scene generates. Both aspects make games different from films and non digital books, where changes or expansion of the content after the final release are much more difficult and must be released separate. All video games also share an interactive part. In story driven games, an active action from the player is necessary to progress in the story. More precisely, the gameplay is part of a video game and of its art. Depending how interactive the game and the story is, the player can also influence how the story progresses. He than is no longer only a consumer of story, he becomes a (minor) coauthor of his own story. The most interactive part of games is surely enabled by modding, which allows the creation of entire new stories by the customers itself.


And what does this mean for Mass Effect 3? We only heard the claim that the actual end was the artistic vision for the game. The artists didn´t engaged in an active discussion to defend their art so far. Why we should accept the end they gave us when nobody of the creators wants to defend it? Perhaps it should be also stated that so far it was never said that the actual end was their only acceptable artistic vision for the game.


(Disclaimer: the sense of parts without must be lost in translation )


PS: And a fan fiction end: Shepard would never go on a mission without his mighty hamster, therefore Space-Boo was hiden in the body armor. He also survided the beam and arrived together with Shepard on the citadel. Seeing spacekid he runs for cover and gnawed on a cable. Unfortunally it was a high-voltage cable and Boo was killed instantly (there must be a said part ...). But this heroic action shut down the starkid KI and also deactivated the reaper network. This deactivated their shilds and gave the allied fleet a change to reduce the reapers to dust. Mighty Boo saved the day.

[Nharia1]

TamiBx wrote...

*snips*
I think this might be worse than ME3 ending. At least Shepard isn't having a dance battle with Starchild on the Citadel. 

Sorry I'm a little behind... but I've got to say something here... Tami why on earth are you giving them ideas? Haven't they ruined the game enough without adding to the tradgey? :crying::crying:

[Computim]

Bruinbear wrote...

So I was offline for the last 3 days. Just catching up on the PAX panel's "discussion." Their tactics have given me a great idea for my own job (teaching). Next time I screw up at work, I should say that my lessons were so beautiful (hence artwork) that they don't need to be fixed. Sadly, I have a feeling that I would be shown the door fairly quickly.

*Sigh* I want to believe that this "extended cut" is going to make me want to play ME 1-3 again as were my plans before I finished ME3 for the first time. But I have wanted to believe so much of the pre-release comments (eg Casey's non A B C endings) and post release twitter comments (eg Gamble's "You will want to keep your copy forever after you hear what we have planned.")

I really feel Bioware and I are on the:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me plan.

Someone earlier in this thread basically said that they are now an "optimistic pessimist." This sums up my feelings exactly.

To go from one of Bioware's raving fanboys to this...it is quite a fall from grace.

As I said in my letters to Bioware, it is time to make it right.

My apologies for the rambling rant here. Just needed to vent a little since my wife is getting tired of hearing my ME3 rage. =/

That was rambling?  I don't even want to think of what some of my posts would be called

I'm probably in the same position.. I know Bioware can fix this, I'm confident they're going to try, and I'm confident they know what we want from them now based off the Q&A.. they used a lot of the wording I was looking for.

At the same time they've been completely horrid with the response (save a couple people) up to this point and so I'm not buying any EA DLC/Games until they deliver and I've had a chance to play the new DLC.. it's my right to claim as a customer, as much as they claim artistic integrity.

It is indeed a real shame that they've turned me from an unapologetic fanboy into, what I used to consider, the angry critics.  I'm with you entirely on that.

Hold the line!

[Nharia1]

Computim wrote...

I'm not getting into a power struggle with the Facebook Batallion.  BSN Batallion is its own beast, HTL Batallion is its own, and Twitter Batallion is its own. 

Different Batallions, one goal, one purpose.  We don't control what Facebook Batallion talks about, and we ignore when they tell other batallions what to do.

We're still holding the line, just with different methods

What's Facebook trying to tell us to do now?

[TamiBx]

Cybermortis wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

At least Shepard isn't having a dance battle with Starchild on the Citadel. 

Damn it!

Who leaked the expanded ending? They haven't even finished it yet....

Guess Bioware needs to make a new one then 

[Computim]

th3C0y0t3 wrote...

*snipped for length*

I completely agree with you on everything from what I could see.

I'm hoping, based off what they've said to this point, that they may go with IT and call it 'extended' but I suspect, more than likely, any IT ending will be solely the realm of speculative gumshoeing.

That being said, if they can make the ending make as much sense as the rest of the game it'll be awesome.. they have far far wackier plot lines in there that make sense (Conrad Vernier anyone?) and add amazing depth to the story. 

I'm fine leaving the ending in, just fix the plotholes, either with heisenberg compensators or elaborate detail (wherever suitable).  That's basically what I asked for... I wanted no plotholes, and closure.. and they've, so far, said they'll give me both.... just waiting on them to deliver now

Welcome to the line!

Edit: Also - roasted SpaceBoo would be horrible.. and hard to clean out of armour.

Modifié par Computim, 07 avril 2012 - 10:34 .

[Major Swift]

was listening to stuff on youtube, came across this, this is just amazing! (off topic i know but im trying to wash palpatine dancing from my mind )

[Nharia1]

TamiBx wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

At least Shepard isn't having a dance battle with Starchild on the Citadel. 

Damn it!

Who leaked the expanded ending? They haven't even finished it yet....

Guess Bioware needs to make a new one then 

You're so evil Tami...

[Rdubs]

Major Swift wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

If I had a twitter account I'd write him and be like, "I hope all those ideas you had about how the ending would play out get included this time! They were exactly what we had wanted to see!". See what he says.

lol i would with my twitter but none of the people from Bioware have replied to any of my tweets thus far

I'm guessing the volume of tweets Weekes gets is a lot more manageable than the primary accounts.  Plus this one pays him a compliment, the way he said he wanted to see the endings were a lot more along the lines of the quality we were expecting.  

[TamiBx]

Nharia1 wrote...

You're so evil Tami...

I've been called many things - nice, blindly optimistic, too hyper, sarcastic - but never evil.
Or wait. My ex called me evil once. But that doesn't count 

See what ME3 ending did to me? I'm even leaking extended cutscene dlc info on BSN now lol

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[Nharia1]

TamiBx wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

You're so evil Tami...

I've been called many things - nice, blindly optimistic, too hyper, sarcastic - but never evil.
Or wait. My ex called me evil once. But that doesn't count 

See what ME3 ending did to me? I'm even leaking extended cutscene dlc info on BSN now lol

Oh geez, that's not good. I wonder what Mr Bond will say to this...

Modifié par Nharia1, 07 avril 2012 - 10:43 .