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Computim wrote...]
... I think this is the part in Doctor Who when they say all hope is lost and turn their keys for those nuclear weapons that would destroy the planet.
Edit: @Tami - you definitely are more evil than me today.
jedsithor wrote...
The sad thing is that it's an easy fix. All it needs is a conditional Paragon/Renegade dialogue option that's only available if you united the quarian and the geth, and then some additional cutscenes to reflect that. The original endings remain intact for those that want to choose it (some may have no choice if they sided with the quarians or geth and didn't unite them) and for Bioware to say they've maintained their artistic integrity, while also rewarding fans for pointing out the obvious flaw in Starchild's logic if played a certain way.
It's so simple that it frustrates the hell out of me that Bioware won't do it.
MintyCool wrote...
I can pen you in on tuesday for an hour. I'm a very busy guy with many followers.
Thanks for being a fan of Checkmate.
<3
Modifié par CoolioThane, 08 avril 2012 - 01:46 .
TamiBx wrote...
Computim wrote...]
... I think this is the part in Doctor Who when they say all hope is lost and turn their keys for those nuclear weapons that would destroy the planet.
Edit: @Tami - you definitely are more evil than me today.
Aww.
I guess I should take a break then.
I'm off to see The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Be back later~
MintyCool wrote...
Are you guys seriously going to discuss the same handful of topics over and over till Summer?
Go grab some sun....
lol...how incredibly laughable....
MintyCool wrote...
CitizenSnips28 wrote...
MintyCool wrote...
Are you guys seriously going to discuss the same handful of topics over and over till Summer?
Go grab some sun....
lol...how incredibly laughable....
Lol we've been talking about Justin Beiber forever? Oh Minty... your lack of logic is so beautiful. I think I'm falling in love. Can... can I friend you?
I can pen you in on tuesday for an hour. I'm a very busy guy with many followers.
Thanks for being a fan of Checkmate.
<3
CitizenSnips28 wrote...
.... omg what? You shouldn't have to pencil me in. True love defies scheduling! Still... so hot. Despite yer name too... get it?! Cuz you're MintyCOOL hehe. So uh... okay then its a date! Ill wear my best sneakers.
CoolioThane wrote...
CitizenSnips28 wrote...
.... omg what? You shouldn't have to pencil me in. True love defies scheduling! Still... so hot. Despite yer name too... get it?! Cuz you're MintyCOOL hehe. So uh... okay then its a date! Ill wear my best sneakers.
You need more sarcasm!
Kuraiken wrote...
But what is a product and what defines a product?Zanza86 wrote...
I notice people throw around the term "rights" like it meant to validate their whiney behaviour. Let's clear this up for the future. You have no rights when it comes to this game. You buy the product and you receive said product. That is your right as a consumer. Everything else after is just an example of the self entitlement you all seem to have adopted. Pro-enders aren't what is wrong with society. They are just people who enjoyed the ending, perhaps they understood it in a different light to the rest of you keyboard warriors. To turn around and say they are trolls or ****** for liking the ending instead of "standing up for themselves" against the big bad corporations you are only being hypocrites. For weeks now all we get to read on these forums is how the ending was bad and some imaginary line that shifts to your own purposes needs to be held. Good luck with that by the way enjoy your extra cutscene. Hope you still shed a tear and chuck more tantrums over a game when your precious mass relays explode.
Buying a product requires a transcation preceded by an agreement not only about the quality, but about what that product is too.
Say, you buy a cool looking couch, and suddenly, as you try to sit on it, it breaks down. And as you call the people who sold the couch, they tell you that it's not a couch meant for people to sit on. You didn't know that. You assumed that couches are there to be used, not purely decorative.
This gets fuzzy with games. You have, before you buy the product, not really any knowledge of what that product is. That's why demos exist, why people make statements before the game is released, why there are trailer, teaser, etc.
They're there to provide people with knowledge of what will be sold and to interest them in the game.
But when you buy the product, and it turns out that all the things said, claimed or promised were, in fact, false statements - why then you've been tricked. Then you did not get the product you imagined you'd get, and if you had *known* about it in advance, you would have never bought it.
So no, what you say is pretty narrow-sighted and one-dimensional. You take one angle and fail to comprehend how the same approach as a systematic process would bear so many flaws when applied to other business transactions.
The customer *indeed* has the right to complain when the product is not what it was claimed to be. And he also has the right to return it, a right that is more and more undermined by the techniques of using account-binding, keys and similar methods. Anyone who fails to understand that these are devices used by companies to improve profit with no regard to the customer most certainly lacks common sense.
Oh, and I see only one person trolling. Trolling is when people insult others, annoy others, and provide no logical statements of any kind, but ramble and babble and prattle around.
So here comes the great reveal, the unexpected ending:
*You* are the troll.
CitizenSnips28 wrote...
CoolioThane wrote...
CitizenSnips28 wrote...
.... omg what? You shouldn't have to pencil me in. True love defies scheduling! Still... so hot. Despite yer name too... get it?! Cuz you're MintyCOOL hehe. So uh... okay then its a date! Ill wear my best sneakers.
You need more sarcasm!
Its not sarcasm! Where's your romantic side?! Don't you believe in star crossed love at first sight? Don't make fun of my significant other to be! I will tame this mythical creature I will! Oh and err, the endings were bad.
LethesDeep wrote...
Are you going to continue to post irrelevant posts in an effort to increase the stimulation of our hypothalumi by completely disregarding all sane logic and resorting to ad hominems? Because I just spent the day outside helping my dad repair the mini-barn and doing some touch-up work on the house. We also have not been talking about the exact same things over and over. Note how our conversations have changed to talking about what was said at PAX, we weren't discussing that a week ago. We analysize new information and adapt to it, something evolution has apparently not been able to guarantee 100% if we go by the posts of a certain person who came to this thread after PAX to herald to end of an organized cutomer front, reverting the game industry into a place where the people in power can lie and steal from us and if we call them out on it we are labeled as entitled, whiny, or liberals - another ad hominem, I think, since I am neither affiliated nor inclined to side with either group just because they are that group; my allegiance changes based upon who I see is right for the job.
If you couldn't comprehend any of these words, such as "logic" or "adapt" here is a link to a dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/ I add this not as an insult to your intelligence, but as a way for us to clearly understand each other and have an efficient, intellectually stimulating converstaion. I hope you have a pleasant day (night or whatever it is where you are).
Modifié par MintyCool, 08 avril 2012 - 02:01 .
Zanza86 wrote...
If the game did not live up to expectations then why do you still play it?
Neko Hibiki wrote...
Zanza86 wrote...
If the game did not live up to expectations then why do you still play it?
I don't.
I sold it to a kid in the neighborhood for $104.
Yay me!
Please read this thread as it contains quotes from the developers as to the contents of the game. These quotes were made to news outlets prior to release, yet many were after the game went into the manufacturing stage.Zanza86 wrote...
Only problem is you got the product you paid for. Just because you had expectations that it would be something they didn't advertise does not mean squat I'm afraid. Your options are whine on a forum and keep quoting a moronic phrase about holding an nonexistant line that like I said (and you seemed to have delibrately ignored due to the truth in the matter) shift to suit your needs. Talk about one dimensional thinking. If the game did not live up to expectations then why do you still play it? Why do you still harp on about it when you could simply return it or trade it into a second hand retailer. Complaining for the sake of complaining the lot of you. Keyboard warriors at their finest.
By all means continue to troll Bioware, I wonder how long it will take for you all to realise that you got the game you paid for. end of the day it is their story to tell and yes you got to make decisions and they did impact on how your game played out. characters not appearing, some dying due to choices i previous games. You got exactly what you asked for you just can't see it. There was consequences to your actions/choices, they just weren't on the size you wanted it to be. Boohoo, tough luck, welcome to the real world. The reason why I enjoyed the ending was because it didn't end how I wanted it to. It had shown me that to survive the cycle that had been continuing for millions of years in itself was a victory and if you recall one of the earliest conversations in this game was Sheperd telling people that surviving the cycle is all that matters now.
Modifié par LethesDeep, 08 avril 2012 - 02:11 .
DJBare wrote...
I beg to differZanza86 wrote...
Only problem is you got the product you paid for.
Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 08 avril 2012 - 02:14 .
Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 08 avril 2012 - 02:13 .
Modifié par DJBare, 08 avril 2012 - 02:16 .
MintyCool wrote...
Relax; you're getting worked up over a luxury item that 70 percent of the world could not afford to buy. You talk as if you part of the U.N. planning sanctions....
Take a deep breath. By summer, I'm sure the Devs will do enough to make you content and happy until the next big AAA title from Bioware is announced. This was the point I was originally trying to make, that it's a long time to fester and dwell on something so insignificant.
Also, you don't have to be condescending when discussing topics on a forum.
Modifié par LethesDeep, 08 avril 2012 - 02:26 .
MintyCool wrote...
Relax; you're getting worked up over a luxury item that 70 percent of the world could not afford to buy. You talk as if you part of the U.N. planning sanctions....
This was the point I was originally trying to make, that it's a long time to fester and dwell on something so insignificant.
Also, you don't have to be condescending when discussing topics on a forum.
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