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[_Martyr_]

Someone posted demo screens with changed outfits, one of them was the N7 armor torn apart/charred. Can someone explain me why would they add that armor in-game if the ending sequences are pre-rendered?

Or the situation is much more complex than the 1.07 ending that's on youtube?

[Unit-Alpha]

davidshooter wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

The thread in general about ME1 faces not importing has me just as worried as the endings now.

It seems at least one and maybe two people who got the game early can't import their ME1 created face that they used in ME2. No mods, or any other nefarious stuff.

People have tweeted the devs asking about this and gotten strangely vague replies that don't actually answer the question. When asked very specific questions about ME1 faces importing people are getting no replies.

Hope I'm just paranoid and everything is fine

May I please have links to the tweets?

It's all in this thread:

http://social.biowar...index/9513640/1

To sum up, one of the space players (or maybe 2 this doesn't seem clear) has had to remake his face everytime he tries to import his character that was created in ME1 because he gets an error message.  The face was not modded.

When asked (an imprecise question) the devs replied with "yes you can import your ME2 face"

When asked this multiple times:

Owners of space edition 360 can't import faces from ME2 saves with ME1 face codes. Will this be resolved for launch?

There has been no response, despite responses to newer questions. 

Bioware's response to fan complaints: NO FACE FOR YOU!

[tasca1180]

double post

oops...

Modifié par tasca1180, 02 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[xtorma]

_Martyr_ wrote...

Someone posted demo screens with changed outfits, one of them was the N7 armor torn apart/charred. Can someone explain me why would they add that armor in-game if the ending sequences are pre-rendered?

Or the situation is much more complex than the 1.07 ending that's on youtube?

Maybe it was sheps armor from the beginning of me2?

[Unit-Alpha]

_Martyr_ wrote...

Someone posted demo screens with changed outfits, one of them was the N7 armor torn apart/charred. Can someone explain me why would they add that armor in-game if the ending sequences are pre-rendered?

Or the situation is much more complex than the 1.07 ending that's on youtube?

There's supposed to be a massive explosion toward the end during gameplay/for an in-game rendered cutscene, and Shepard gets caught in it.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 03:30 .

[CerberusSoldier]

ratzerman wrote...

Sadly, I think pleading for some kind of retconned DLC ending isn't going to work, and will probably just make the writers mad. Mac views himself as an artist, after all. He won't sacrifice his vision to appease the audience, especially since we've already paid.

There are two options: a supplemental DLC that expands on the ending was always part Bioware's plan, or the included endings are all that there is.

   


If EA share holders and investors get involed these clowns at Bioware will change some sh** . and if the fans scream loud enough they will hear us

[mulder1199]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

"This change only made itself clear 15 or 20 hours into the game, when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious how intricately woven the sum parts of the Mass Effect series are. I found myself continually shaking my head in awe as things came together, not only from Mass Effect 2, but from Mass Effect itself. Even though I'm playing "fresh" on PlayStation 3, my extensive experience with Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 on Xbox 360 allowed me to appreciate all of the odes, both major and minor, being thrown out to characters, events and conversations that had occurred in previous games. How BioWare accomplished all of this successfully borders on mind-boggling. "

This is from the ongoing review of mass effect 3.

yeah i read that this morning too....it just makes me hate the fact (coupled with the 'journey not destination crap') that the end is poop.....i'm interested to see what colin makes of the end monday/tuesday

[Max Knight]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Risselda wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

The Asari wrote...

so theres a guardian controlling the reapers. what ever happend to sovereign saying ''we are each a nation, independent.'' i think bioware created a story that was even too big for them to handle.
 

The problem is that the lead writer of Mass Effect 1 and 2 didn't work on 3. I wish Drew had been working on Mass Effect 3 instead of SW:TOR 

Something doesnt seem right with these endings. Bioware must know how big this game is going to be- most anticipated of 2012.  If they blow it up, it'll be a Mists of Pandaria tragedy all over again. And everyone knows what happened with that.

How could the whole story be so epic, but then skimp out on the ending.

Because Bioware's writers think they are writing Homer's Odyssey, when in fact they are barely more competent than a fan fiction writer. Not a personal attack, but they are forgetting massive sections of lore.

^  This.  We ended up with a cheap Lovecraft knockoff in space. 

There's even a fanfic that retells the ME story as a straight-up Lovecraft horror/mystery, and in some ways it's better than what we're ending up with because it just comes out and drops the SF mashup, making it less like a Saturday-night Syfy original movie or BSG remake (which is how ME3 is turning out). 

 
errr actulay there are are few VERY good ME FF which,in some cases, is even better tha the ME 1 or 2 Dark Energy, Rising from the Ashes, and few more i cant remeber right now and let me tell ya som of the would make a very decent books.

[Cobra's_back]

BobSmith101 wrote...

ghostbusters101 wrote...
Actually the no one left behind was a positive for me. I loved ME2 more than one. The impending doom was more the fight for your life. Shepard and crew dying with some planets destroyed is better than all life turned into paste, drones or husks. Afterall Shepard already died once and Garrus didn't expect everyone to make it in ME 2.

Well it was too easy, compared to something like the Atelier Totori "True End" but it still gave meaning to all that planet scanning and loyalty stuff.

I'm getting a why bother vibe from ME3. If GR/Assests are worthless, you are left with a very short game for an RPG.

True. I see your point.

[Unit-Alpha]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sadly, I think pleading for some kind of retconned DLC ending isn't going to work, and will probably just make the writers mad. Mac views himself as an artist, after all. He won't sacrifice his vision to appease the audience, especially since we've already paid.

There are two options: a supplemental DLC that expands on the ending was always part Bioware's plan, or the included endings are all that there is.

   


If EA share holders and investors get involed these clowns at Bioware will change some sh** . and if the fans scream loud enough they will hear us

Hold on, purchasing all EA stock.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 03:32 .

[Nevara]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

The reviewer of ME3 at ING is past 20 hours and still isn't close to being finished. He is doing an actual complete playthrough. What do you guys think this means? Xio finished in 23 hours.

It's at best narrative RPG mode.  At worst... very very suspect.  How do you supposedly do multiple playthroughs and say you "did everything":huh:

[DifferentD17]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

The thread in general about ME1 faces not importing has me just as worried as the endings now.

It seems at least one and maybe two people who got the game early can't import their ME1 created face that they used in ME2. No mods, or any other nefarious stuff.

People have tweeted the devs asking about this and gotten strangely vague replies that don't actually answer the question. When asked very specific questions about ME1 faces importing people are getting no replies.

Hope I'm just paranoid and everything is fine

May I please have links to the tweets?

It's all in this thread:

http://social.biowar...index/9513640/1

To sum up, one of the space players (or maybe 2 this doesn't seem clear) has had to remake his face everytime he tries to import his character that was created in ME1 because he gets an error message.  The face was not modded.

When asked (an imprecise question) the devs replied with "yes you can import your ME2 face"

When asked this multiple times:

Owners of space edition 360 can't import faces from ME2 saves with ME1 face codes. Will this be resolved for launch?

There has been no response, despite responses to newer questions. 

Bioware's response to fan complaints: NO FACE FOR YOU!

Biodrone response: Stop complaining, we don't really need our faces do we?

[AkiKishi]

Nevara wrote...

I just don't know how they plan on actually doing it so it will be satisfying.  There was a lot of story that could be expanded on for a whole nother game, but if that's the way they want to do it.  Good luck to SE!

Hell, I was shocked they even came out with a direct sequel to X in the first place, so I wait with bated breath.  Though I bet spouse will make those endings a day 1 purchase.

"Time travel it's a cornocopia of disturbing concepts".

I really liked the costume switching in X-2. Much more than the sphere grid. First time I played it , I did it "wrong" but once I got the idea of how it worked I found it quite entertaining.

Each one brings something different to the table. Although I found I had to drag myself through XIII because very little (besides Vanille and Fang) appealed to me.

[Bionic Weapon]

I tried to not look at them, I tried but the people here with all their talking got me curious. So I read the spoilers. I have to say while it does feel and look like a let down, I am optimistic that things aren't what they seem. Now I know people have said these endings are the real deal and there is no patch or anything,but I have a feeling I just can't explain, though I will try: It gets sorta of long so read it or don't.

Since Bioware/EA did this ME3 Space edition thing it seems as if they knew, despite asking them not to leak spoilers,some of them would in fact do exactly that. So they send copies with alternate outcomes,say even scrapped outcomes that they were going to use but then didn't for whatever reasons they had. In that way if those with Space copies did leak info, they'd leak the wrong info.

This of course will and did get people up in arms, and many including me are ever more curious to see if this is in fact what we get after all our hard work getting a playthrough we saw fit.

IMO this is fantastic hype/ marketing or whatever you call it. It gets us talking, it gets us mad and/or worried, it gets us sort of afraid. It just makes us react. This just seems.. off to me.

Now if these end are real ( and based on some pics and other info they seem likely) then I will play the game and when decision time comes I'll make a choice I see that fits into my Shepard's story.

However it just seems too easy. These leaks are just way too easy, imo

I'll see for myself Tuesday, but I get a feeling that all isn't what we/I think it is.



*Edited* Also I get that not all the endings will make everyone happy, butthat is how it should go, you make the wrong choice, there is a consequnce, heck you make a choice you feel is right the same thing applies, but if all the endings are the same why would anyone be happy about that?  Unless that is what they themselves expected to happen.

Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 02 mars 2012 - 03:36 .

[XX55XX]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sadly, I think pleading for some kind of retconned DLC ending isn't going to work, and will probably just make the writers mad. Mac views himself as an artist, after all. He won't sacrifice his vision to appease the audience, especially since we've already paid.

There are two options: a supplemental DLC that expands on the ending was always part Bioware's plan, or the included endings are all that there is.

   


If EA share holders and investors get involed these clowns at Bioware will change some sh** . and if the fans scream loud enough they will hear us

You know who holds most of EA's stock?

Mututal funds and other institutional investors. They don't give a rat's ass about the business so long as EA's cash flow statement and balance sheet are good. 

Modifié par XX55XX, 02 mars 2012 - 03:32 .

[mulder1199]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sadly, I think pleading for some kind of retconned DLC ending isn't going to work, and will probably just make the writers mad. Mac views himself as an artist, after all. He won't sacrifice his vision to appease the audience, especially since we've already paid.

There are two options: a supplemental DLC that expands on the ending was always part Bioware's plan, or the included endings are all that there is.

   


If EA share holders and investors get involed these clowns at Bioware will change some sh** . and if the fans scream loud enough they will hear us

absolutely true, they may not do that, they may say something such as 'we have ME4 planned and it will clear up your questions in the prologue based on your save'...but they have to answer, especially if plenty more folks (and there will be) don't like the poopendings 

[Heathen Pride]

Aesieru wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

eye basher wrote...

I always knew ME wasn't gonna end well the reapers are to powerful an enemy it is going to take something drastic and on a massive scale to stop em and that never ends well.

At the end of the original ME, there was still plenty of room to make the Reapers a powerful threat but not goofy spacegods that can only be stopped with a magic space McGuffin. 

They have a huge fleet of huge ships witha dvanced tech that also made the reapers...

And they've been killing all life for millions of years.

It's kinda funny though, how they destroy by landing on the planets and firing lazers and stepping on tanks like godzilla. If they're that advanced they should be able to "nuke the sites from orbit" with some high tech life obliterating weaponry.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Why do non-japanese people love japanese words so much? I don't get it. I'm only half white and my entire japanese side of the family doesn't do any of this. Even the ones who watch anime. 

It goes the other way, too.  There are a ton of English words haphazardly / semi-accurately snagged into Japanese language and even more into slang. 

[Risselda]

To bioware's credit...IF they sneak a happy ending in there, all this drama will make it all the sweeter/ ill appreciate it more

[Unit-Alpha]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Bioware's response to fan complaints: NO FACE FOR YOU!

Biodrone response: Stop complaining, we don't really need our faces do we?

The black hole of nothingness would be intimidating. Wouldn't even need renegade interrupts.

[Killjoy Cutter]

XX55XX wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sadly, I think pleading for some kind of retconned DLC ending isn't going to work, and will probably just make the writers mad. Mac views himself as an artist, after all. He won't sacrifice his vision to appease the audience, especially since we've already paid.

There are two options: a supplemental DLC that expands on the ending was always part Bioware's plan, or the included endings are all that there is.

   


If EA share holders and investors get involed these clowns at Bioware will change some sh** . and if the fans scream loud enough they will hear us

You know who holds most of EA's stock?

Mututal funds and other institutional investors. They don't give a rat's ass about the business so long as EA's cash flow statement and balance sheet are good. 

The whole system of publically traded shares results a complete failure of the actual concept of ownership. 

[DavidGraham]

No matter what happens , we will never accept those endings or let go of the decision to demand a new one via DLC or a patch or whatever !

[CerberusSoldier]

XX55XX wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sadly, I think pleading for some kind of retconned DLC ending isn't going to work, and will probably just make the writers mad. Mac views himself as an artist, after all. He won't sacrifice his vision to appease the audience, especially since we've already paid.

There are two options: a supplemental DLC that expands on the ending was always part Bioware's plan, or the included endings are all that there is.

   


If EA share holders and investors get involed these clowns at Bioware will change some sh** . and if the fans scream loud enough they will hear us

You know who holds most of EA's stock?

Mututal funds and other institutional investors. They don't give a rat's ass about the business so long as EA's cash flow statement and balance sheet are good. 

   



well I am looking for anyway for this clowns to change this F*** mess

[Unit-Alpha]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sadly, I think pleading for some kind of retconned DLC ending isn't going to work, and will probably just make the writers mad. Mac views himself as an artist, after all. He won't sacrifice his vision to appease the audience, especially since we've already paid.

There are two options: a supplemental DLC that expands on the ending was always part Bioware's plan, or the included endings are all that there is.

   


If EA share holders and investors get involed these clowns at Bioware will change some sh** . and if the fans scream loud enough they will hear us

You know who holds most of EA's stock?

Mututal funds and other institutional investors. They don't give a rat's ass about the business so long as EA's cash flow statement and balance sheet are good. 

The whole system of publically traded shares results a complete failure of the actual concept of ownership. 

I liked it when Bono's investment firm owned a major part of Bioware. Then we could have Beautiful Day at the end, with a good ending.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 03:36 .

[Nevara]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Nevara wrote...

I just don't know how they plan on actually doing it so it will be satisfying.  There was a lot of story that could be expanded on for a whole nother game, but if that's the way they want to do it.  Good luck to SE!

Hell, I was shocked they even came out with a direct sequel to X in the first place, so I wait with bated breath.  Though I bet spouse will make those endings a day 1 purchase.

"Time travel it's a cornocopia of disturbing concepts".

I really liked the costume switching in X-2. Much more than the sphere grid. First time I played it , I did it "wrong" but once I got the idea of how it worked I found it quite entertaining.

Each one brings something different to the table. Although I found I had to drag myself through XIII because very little (besides Vanille and Fang) appealed to me.

I didn't like how disjointed the narrative was or how clunky the paradigm system felt.  

I did like the maturation of Hope in XIII-2.  I still think Snow is a tool however and Serah is very, very naive.  Poor girl.