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[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Witcher 2: Crap ending
Deus Ex: HR: Crap ending

Witcher 2: Well, I was with Tess in the end, killed the dragon and Letho, I expected something more conclusive sure, because it felt like it ended mid-sequence, but at least I was with my LI, defeated the "enemies" and I was satisfied.

Deus Ex: HR: Since we never heard of Adam in DE1 and 2, I picked the choice that destroys the whole place. Yeah, it would be nice if he lived, but from before the game was in my HD, I expected he'd meet his end in well... the end.

When I say crap, I mean compared to what it could have been.

Not compared to ME3.

I didn't compare them to ME3, since I haven't played it yet.

But for your quote about Witcher 2's 3rd act not being so good, I agree. It was very small and "let's get to the ending!". Hopefully the (free!) Enhanced Edition will fix that as they say.

[humes spork]

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

IGN is paid off to do an awesome review.

Have you learned nothing? All major press is paid off by EA. Always.

Well, HURRR. That's not the game industry's fault, IGN would give Lemon Party: the Video Game 10/10 and declare it game of the century if the AARP shelled out a few large and handed out a few comp memberships.

[DifferentD17]

I bet the Bioware staff is thinking: "Seriously guys you want us to tell you the endings?".

[Killjoy Cutter]

Heathen Pride wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

eye basher wrote...

I always knew ME wasn't gonna end well the reapers are to powerful an enemy it is going to take something drastic and on a massive scale to stop em and that never ends well.

At the end of the original ME, there was still plenty of room to make the Reapers a powerful threat but not goofy spacegods that can only be stopped with a magic space McGuffin. 

They have a huge fleet of huge ships witha dvanced tech that also made the reapers...

And they've been killing all life for millions of years.

It's kinda funny though, how they destroy by landing on the planets and firing lazers and stepping on tanks like godzilla. If they're that advanced they should be able to "nuke the sites from orbit" with some high tech life obliterating weaponry.

If you look at the planet descriptions in ME1 and ME2, there's evidence that they do use orbital bombardment. 

Bioware decided to ignore that in favor of the "kewlness" of giant spacegods striding across the surface of planets, disdainful of mortal efforts to stop them, blah blah blah.

[Garrus30]

RazorrX wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I hate to be obnoxious and say this again, but i would like to add that the review at IGN is PAST the 20 hour mark in game time and he is still not even close to being done with the game.

Maybe he will have a different ending since he is being a lot more prefectionist? I still don't understand how someone can have a complete playthrough with all side missions in just 23 hours. How does he even know where all the side quests are? *cry

Xoi claimed to have had 100% complete in every star system for his last run through - which resulted in zero changes to the ending.

The professional reviewers are all paid to say exactly what EA wants, we saw this with Dragon Age 2 and other titles.

Actually this doesn't mean anything, in ME2 if you visit a planet (go to scan mode) then # % will be added to the current % star system, it doesn't say anything about sidequests, only that you went to every planet.

Modifié par Garrus30, 02 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[Gexora]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Gexora wrote...

I was kind of out of action for a few hours... did we get any video/pic confirmation of Normandy being stranded?
I mean that exact, specific plot point. Not the kid, not the relay destruction, just that.
Please answer

There was a pic of EDI and Joker together, and another with the Normandy wrecked. It is unclear if the Normandy was stranded or not though.

I have fangasmed over... eh, sorry, seen JokerxEDI pic. Can you link me to the wrecked Normandy tho? I would be grateful. Because so far I haven't seen any solid proof of stranding, and this is plot point I have the biggest issue with. And it just seems off.  Spoiler guys could have misunderstood the moment, for god's sake!

[Nerevar-as]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

wolf99000 wrote...

I read a few pages back some saying maybe they are doing this for a clean stale for new mass effect games but even if that is right why not have shepard on that planet with the crew it would not change anything

also after the way shepards story ended do you really think people are going invest the time and love that the fans have done in shepard it always going to be there well they crapped all over everything my shepard did who says this will be better

That was my argument a few days ago.

But the Merge ending is incompatible with the others. You can sidestep the Relay destruction by saying they retroengineered the Reapers´s drive cores (around 6 months from the end of ME2 to ME3, and look how far from the MW they were), but every life form being a cyborg? No way around that without canonizing one of the endings. And if they are going to do that anyway, why make all endings so similar?

[Rdubs]

This latest interview with C-Hud just out. 

Hudson said that despite players being in the driver's seat, they want to see that developers have created interesting and satisfying conclusions of the story arcs in which they've become invested.

Anyone here feel like they're in the "driver's seat"?
http://www.cnn.com/2...frum/index.html

[DifferentD17]

Garrus30 wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I hate to be obnoxious and say this again, but i would like to add that the review at IGN is PAST the 20 hour mark in game time and he is still not even close to being done with the game.

Maybe he will have a different ending since he is being a lot more prefectionist? I still don't understand how someone can have a complete playthrough with all side missions in just 23 hours. How does he even know where all the side quests are? *cry

Xoi claimed to have had 100% complete in every star system for his last run through - which resulted in zero changes to the ending.

The professional reviewers are all paid to say exactly what EA wants, we saw this with Dragon Age 2 and other titles.

Actually this doesn't mean anything, in ME2 if you visit a planet (go to scan mode) then # % will be added to the current % star system, it doesn't say anything about sidequests, only that you went to every planet.

The scanning system in ME3 is different.

[mulder1199]

DifferentD17 wrote...

I bet the Bioware staff is thinking: "Seriously guys you want us to tell you the endings?".

they've been saying...play the game....i'm taking that as....these guys are hurrying through and that's giving them a poo ending....play it and see do some work and you'll be rewarded....

i guess i'm optimistic...

[wolf99000]

Rdubs wrote...

This latest interview with C-Hud just out. 

Hudson said that despite players being in the driver's seat, they want to see that developers have created interesting and satisfying conclusions of the story arcs in which they've become invested.

Anyone here feel like they're in the "driver's seat"?
http://www.cnn.com/2...frum/index.html

I got news for him he failed

[Killjoy Cutter]

DifferentD17 wrote...

I bet the Bioware staff is thinking: "Seriously guys you want us to tell you the endings?"

If there are more, different, and better endings in the game, all Bioware would need to say is "These are not the only endings, don't judge the game on this."  Not everyone would believe them at this point, but at least they could say it. 

There's only one reason they can't say that these are not the only endings -- and that is if these are in fact all of the endings in the game.

Their silence is loud, and telling.

[DifferentD17]

Gexora wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Gexora wrote...

I was kind of out of action for a few hours... did we get any video/pic confirmation of Normandy being stranded?
I mean that exact, specific plot point. Not the kid, not the relay destruction, just that.
Please answer

There was a pic of EDI and Joker together, and another with the Normandy wrecked. It is unclear if the Normandy was stranded or not though.

I have fangasmed over... eh, sorry, seen JokerxEDI pic. Can you link me to the wrecked Normandy tho? I would be grateful. Because so far I haven't seen any solid proof of stranding, and this is plot point I have the biggest issue with. And it just seems off.  Spoiler guys could have misunderstood the moment, for god's sake!

I'm sorry I'm looking for the links, but the guy that uploaded them said they expired.

http://social.biowar...64#post_2375664

[Killjoy Cutter]

Rdubs wrote...

This latest interview with C-Hud just out. 

Hudson said that despite players being in the driver's seat, they want to see that developers have created interesting and satisfying conclusions of the story arcs in which they've become invested.

Anyone here feel like they're in the "driver's seat"?
http://www.cnn.com/2...frum/index.html

They failed on both counts.

1) We're no longer in the driver's seat, see also DA2.
2) The endings we know about so far are not interesting and satisfying, just poorly written cliched crap.

[DifferentD17]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

I bet the Bioware staff is thinking: "Seriously guys you want us to tell you the endings?"

If there are more, different, and better endings in the game, all Bioware would need to say is "These are not the only endings, don't judge the game on this."  Not everyone would believe them at this point, but at least they could say it. 

There's only one reason they can't say that these are not the only endings -- and that is if these are in fact all of the endings in the game.

Their silence is loud, and telling.

True, I've said this many times. lol

[cotheer]

mulder1199 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

I bet the Bioware staff is thinking: "Seriously guys you want us to tell you the endings?".

they've been saying...play the game....i'm taking that as....these guys are hurrying through and that's giving them a poo ending....play it and see do some work and you'll be rewarded....

i guess i'm optimistic...

OR, they're desperately want you to play their game for the sake of it.

Anyways, i really need to stop playing BW games, i get depressed every time >_>
Amalur, here i come.

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

This latest interview with C-Hud just out. 

Hudson said that despite players being in the driver's seat, they want to see that developers have created interesting and satisfying conclusions of the story arcs in which they've become invested.

Anyone here feel like they're in the "driver's seat"?
http://www.cnn.com/2...frum/index.html

They failed on both counts.

1) We're no longer in the driver's seat, see also DA2.
2) The endings we know about so far are not interesting and satisfying, just poorly written cliched crap.

"But we needz ze DRAMAZZZ!!!"

If they ever use that as an excuse post-launch...

[Gexora]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Gexora wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Gexora wrote...

I was kind of out of action for a few hours... did we get any video/pic confirmation of Normandy being stranded?
I mean that exact, specific plot point. Not the kid, not the relay destruction, just that.
Please answer

There was a pic of EDI and Joker together, and another with the Normandy wrecked. It is unclear if the Normandy was stranded or not though.

I have fangasmed over... eh, sorry, seen JokerxEDI pic. Can you link me to the wrecked Normandy tho? I would be grateful. Because so far I haven't seen any solid proof of stranding, and this is plot point I have the biggest issue with. And it just seems off.  Spoiler guys could have misunderstood the moment, for god's sake!

I'm sorry I'm looking for the links, but the guy that uploaded them said they expired.

http://social.biowar...64#post_2375664

Well, thanks - a lot - for trying. 
Now if only my stupid boss would understand it's perfectly reasonable to browse internet forums all day...
But it's just wrecked Normandy? No view of the planet?

[BasementDweller]

 Don't know if it's real or not, so I'll just leave this here.

www.gamefaqs.com/boards/995452-mass-effect-3/62118327

[sephiroth199127]

From the sounds of it, the main issue is how they handled the squad-mates fate. Bioware set out to make these characters memorably and loved, alot of people have they likes and dislikes. The reason ME2 system of squad mates fate was good was because it was in the players hand with a chance of a outcome they would like however from looks of it this has been taken away and after 5 years where alot of the fans have come to adore the characters killing them off without doing any justice to the character or even possible for the player to save them is just bad on Biowares part. This is similar to how they handled the Wesker's character in Resident Evil 5 where alot of fans felt his death did no justice to his past or character, apologies for that spoiler it was one example i could think up atm.

[DifferentD17]

Gexora wrote...

Well, thanks - a lot - for trying. 
Now if only my stupid boss would understand it's perfectly reasonable to browse internet forums all day...
But it's just wrecked Normandy? No view of the planet?

If I find it I'll PM you.

[Abram730]

JPfanner wrote...

@Abram730

I was just pointing out that whatever they do moving forward isn't going to be able to match up to every player's experience of their own end game state. And with that in mind why it seemed silly to me that Shepard must be alone no matter what, when you can have a choice on whether every organic sentient is turned into cyborg thingies or not.

They're just going to say this or that happened and be done with it.

That's basically what I responded.. They will need to choose a starting state anyways.. My objections were based on people saying the ending states were the same or had little difference. You pointed out that this wasn't correct. My objection is thus withdrawn, not that it matters..

If " They're just going to say this or that happened and be done with it. "
Then, why not give everybody an adequate ending..

Before I saw a reason for you not getting a "happily ever after"... That logic was flawed as it was based on false impressions.

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

I bet the Bioware staff is thinking: "Seriously guys you want us to tell you the endings?"

If there are more, different, and better endings in the game, all Bioware would need to say is "These are not the only endings, don't judge the game on this."  Not everyone would believe them at this point, but at least they could say it. 

There's only one reason they can't say that these are not the only endings -- and that is if these are in fact all of the endings in the game.

Their silence is loud, and telling.

True, I've said this many times. lol

Don't you just love the deafening silence on their part when it comes to certain legit issues such as remapping controls, face imports etc?

[Capeo]

Garrus30 wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I hate to be obnoxious and say this again, but i would like to add that the review at IGN is PAST the 20 hour mark in game time and he is still not even close to being done with the game.

Maybe he will have a different ending since he is being a lot more prefectionist? I still don't understand how someone can have a complete playthrough with all side missions in just 23 hours. How does he even know where all the side quests are? *cry

Xoi claimed to have had 100% complete in every star system for his last run through - which resulted in zero changes to the ending.

The professional reviewers are all paid to say exactly what EA wants, we saw this with Dragon Age 2 and other titles.

Actually this doesn't mean anything, in ME2 if you visit a planet (go to scan mode) then # % will be added to the current % star system, it doesn't say anything about sidequests, only that you went to every planet.

ME3 doesn't work like ME2.  The 100% is about readiness.  Sorry, man, he had max readiness on NG+ playthrough and did all three endings.  Even the "perfect" ending, Synergy, has the Normandy crashing and EDI and Joker coming out it.  He puts her arm around her and they look up at the giant planet in the sky that looks exactly the same as the planet in the sky of the epilogue.  The epilogue also implies there is no space flight or nobody ever reached them because the child asks if they'll ever fly in the stars like people used to and he answers "Someday".