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Mythandariel wrote...

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*sighs again* I love how this keeps coming up - this was the original Idea for the Reapers LOL.....and I think still is - lots of evidence lately towards my theory......

*slides by and yonks the coffee off Chmarr* MINE........




Nothing wrong with making a suggestion. What was your theory, btw? I love hearing all the interesting stuff tossed around on the forums.


No no - don't get me wrong - but that's what forshadowing of Dark Matter in ME1 and ME2 was all about before a certain leader writer left ME to work on TOR ;)


Oh I've posted it so many times - specially in this sub - but theory is - BW wanted this - they wanted to not only try and indoctrinate Shepard but also us the fans - make us make choices we normally wouldn't of.

Look at Casey's last interview - clues there - He wanted to polarise the fans - have people debate the ending - Mark's tweet - man if the fans only knew what we were working on - there would be no hate/much less hate -

Those were just before ME3 came out - and just after people started finishing ME3 - where people started coming in droves about the ending.

ME3 would answer tweets about people being indoctrinated - not just shepard but themselves - with you sure we haven't already?

This was planned from the beginning to be an insanely brillant attempt to indoctrinate the fans - it failed for a couple reasons.

Biggest reason - one of their biggest PR platforms - their App for Ipad was only for Ipad - seriously ave 1% of their gamers will have one - it was one of the foolish things to do not to port it over to Android and Windows.  You have it ported there also - you have all your audience covered.

People reported about getting messages from the LI after they finished the game to come vist them - Ok this has been debated - So say its just messages fro Kad or Ash in the beginning to come visit.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10014503/3

It hasn't been agreed but some have said they have gotten a message for Liara too - which makes it completely different.

I've found with digging - most have gotten the message after they've beaten the game and not starting a new game so take it for what its worth.


Second - while BW was prepped for polarising - they were not prepped for out and out hate they have gotten on the game.  They were seriously surprised just how many hate the ending and how quickly we got together.  You can see this took them very much by surprised.

Which leads to three - they weren't prepped for how fast people beat the game - how quickly said people banded together in  arms about how much they hate the ending.

I think they had this planned from the beginning - they have the endings - or needed a little more time to fully polish the endings so they were awesome - they weren't going to charge for the ending dlc either.

Problem is they can now never admit to this because of the PR nightmare this has become. 

Also - the guy that leaked all the information on the MP DLC - which I said it round aboutly from the beginning was just confirmed - all it - exactly what was leaked..........damn sure is batting 1000 there - so "The Truth" dlc is coming - it won't be called that now.........but its coming....


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Paragon Shep all the way, but I did this one...





How y'all forget this one

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DJBare wrote...

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i want to meet the person who is trying to sue over this and shake his/her hand and tell em to give em hell cause it seems this is the only way to get our point accross and that is just plain said to see

It's been thrown out, not that I agreed with it in the first place, Bioware have continued to allow protest over the ending on their own forums, I am unable to continue playing because of the ending, but that does not make me want to go out a sue them, in my opinion it was a bad move on that persons part.


Even if it did get to court, EA have some of the best lawyers around. He probably wouldn't have won anyway.

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I shouldn't laugh but my brother just finished his first playthrough, chose control.

His overall opinion of the ending so far was "Well that wasn't that bad..." and then it's now descended to "Holy crap that sucked".

Notable comments during the ending while I watched quietly (not having given him any spoilers):

". . . THAT KID! YOU WERE RIGHT GRENADES DOWN THE VENT"

"How...? Normandy in mass relay jump...?" to the Normandy suddenly flying
"Well.. that made no sense" as that scene faded out.

"How are my squad on the ship??"
And the particularly amusing "Joker just broke his hip jumping down from the Normandy"

Kinda glad to know that a completely different personality agreed completely with my interpretation of the ending haha.

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Harthouse wrote...

The only Renegade interrupt I did through both games was the final Kai Leng one, that's it. Otherwise only Paragon.


Yeah, in ME3 I only did the Kai Leng Renegade interrupt.
And oh, Udina. I had to kill him myself. I hated the man too much to let Kaidan kill him :devil:

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Fallenfromthesky wrote...

How y'all forget this one

lol yep did that one too

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DJBare wrote...

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i want to meet the person who is trying to sue over this and shake his/her hand *snip*

It's been thrown out, not that I agreed with it in the first place, Bioware have continued to allow protest over the ending on their own forums, I am unable to continue playing because of the ending, but that does not make me want to go out a sue them, in my opinion it was a bad move on that persons part.


Yeah, the $200.00 and +300 hours asside, it's not like like my leg broke or I burned my tongue on the last game. I'm not sure emotional scarring counts as damages. Sueing BiowEAr would be a biiiiiiiiiit too much.

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...
Even if it did get to court, EA have some of the best lawyers around. He probably wouldn't have won anyway.

And it would not be difficult, the case can easily be stretched out over years while definitions of what constitutes lies in advertizing, even if it looks like an obvious lie it's still debatable when it comes to advertising.

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Fallenfromthesky wrote...


TamiBx wrote...


Paragon Shep all the way, but I did this one...





How y'all forget this one


I've never done this one myself, but I am willing to do it next time.
I miss ME2 now...:crying:

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Computim wrote...

I shouldn't laugh but my brother just finished his first playthrough, chose control.

His overall opinion of the ending so far was "Well that wasn't that bad..." and then it's now descended to "Holy crap that sucked".

Notable comments during the ending while I watched quietly (not having given him any spoilers):

". . . THAT KID! YOU WERE RIGHT GRENADES DOWN THE VENT"

"How...? Normandy in mass relay jump...?" to the Normandy suddenly flying
"Well.. that made no sense" as that scene faded out.

"How are my squad on the ship??"
And the particularly amusing "Joker just broke his hip jumping down from the Normandy"

Kinda glad to know that a completely different personality agreed completely with my interpretation of the ending haha.


Haha, I am sorry your brother had to go through that horrible ending.:?

Good thing I spoiled myself before actually doing it, or I would have cried at the end (I just got mad...more than I already was)

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K0M154R wrote...

DJBare wrote...

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i want to meet the person who is trying to sue over this and shake his/her hand *snip*

It's been thrown out, not that I agreed with it in the first place, Bioware have continued to allow protest over the ending on their own forums, I am unable to continue playing because of the ending, but that does not make me want to go out a sue them, in my opinion it was a bad move on that persons part.


Yeah, the $200.00 and +300 hours asside, it's not like like my leg broke or I burned my tongue on the last game. I'm not sure emotional scarring counts as damages. Sueing BiowEAr would be a biiiiiiiiiit too much.


..I actually cut myself on those stupid thin plastic Xbox 360 cases... but I'm not about to sue over it haha.

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Computim wrote...

I shouldn't laugh but my brother just finished his first playthrough, chose control.

His overall opinion of the ending so far was "Well that wasn't that bad..." and then it's now descended to "Holy crap that sucked".

Notable comments during the ending while I watched quietly (not having given him any spoilers):

". . . THAT KID! YOU WERE RIGHT GRENADES DOWN THE VENT"

"How...? Normandy in mass relay jump...?" to the Normandy suddenly flying
"Well.. that made no sense" as that scene faded out.

"How are my squad on the ship??"
And the particularly amusing "Joker just broke his hip jumping down from the Normandy"

Kinda glad to know that a completely different personality agreed completely with my interpretation of the ending haha.

my brother was kind of the same way, he also asked me why deus ex made a cameo in his game :P

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Harthouse wrote...

The only Renegade interrupt I did through both games was the final Kai Leng one, that's it. Otherwise only Paragon.


I did that one and I shot Udina. God that felt good lol, Been waiting 3 games to do that.

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Major Swift wrote...

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How y'all forget this one

lol yep did that one too



Always made me laugh at how Shepard rubbed their neck afterwards

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Fox544 wrote...

Harthouse wrote...

The only Renegade interrupt I did through both games was the final Kai Leng one, that's it. Otherwise only Paragon.


I did that one and I shot Udina. God that felt good lol, Been waiting 3 games to do that.


Did anyone else notice that he'd dyed his hair black?

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Fox544 wrote...

Harthouse wrote...

The only Renegade interrupt I did through both games was the final Kai Leng one, that's it. Otherwise only Paragon.


I did that one and I shot Udina. God that felt good lol, Been waiting 3 games to do that.

lol same here, the minute he stabbed me in the back :lol:

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Fox544 wrote...

Harthouse wrote...

The only Renegade interrupt I did through both games was the final Kai Leng one, that's it. Otherwise only Paragon.


I did that one and I shot Udina. God that felt good lol, Been waiting 3 games to do that.


Yeah I was a bit twitchy during the Udina scene, full paragon and he actually pulled the gun out and I just instinctively pulled the trigger, trouble was the renegade interupt popped up at that exact moment and suddenly "BLAM" and I was like "......oh.. crap"

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Did anyone else notice that he'd dyed his hair black?

yep, Bailey changed too

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Major Swift wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Did anyone else notice that he'd dyed his hair black?

yep, Bailey changed too


I didn't notice Bailey. What did he change?

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Oh the headbutting part I did really forget that one. But at the time I thought that was so badass. But shepard probably has a metal plate in his/her skull since the events in ME2 so it kinda lost on the badassery part. But it's the thought that counts.

Computim wrote...

Yeah I was a bit twitchy during the
Udina scene, full paragon and he actually pulled the gun out and I just
instinctively pulled the trigger, trouble was the renegade interupt
popped up at that exact moment and suddenly "BLAM" and I was like
"......oh.. crap"


Tbh I didn't really get why this was a renegade choice. You try to save someone and can't possibly know if someone else pulls their trigger in time. :!

Modifié par Mokiki, 09 avril 2012 - 12:43 .


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Haha, I am sorry your brother had to go through that horrible ending.:?

Good thing I spoiled myself before actually doing it, or I would have cried at the end (I just got mad...more than I already was)


I told him the ending sucked in my opinion.. so I guess I did give spoilers in that regard.. never gave anything else though.. and he only did the one control ending (and was a little bit angry about his EMS readiness not getting him the synthesis ending which he found out about afterwards).. might have been more upset had he seen the complete lack of difference.. I might give him the link to the youtube later.. don't want to completely upset him.. least till I get my disc back, he has a habit of breaking discs he doesn't like.

I went through it completely unknowing what I was in for... it was tragic, and horrible, and has given me battlescars I will tell my grandkids about. :crying:

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Computim wrote...
*supa snip*

..I actually cut myself on those stupid thin plastic Xbox 360 cases... but I'm not about to sue over it haha.


REALLY? Tell me you took pictures. Do you have witnesses???? THIS IS OUR CHANCE PEOPLE!!

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Mokiki wrote...

Oh the headbutting part I did really forget that one. But at the time I thought that was so badass. But shepard probably has a metal plate in his/her skull since the events in ME2 so it kinda lost on the badassery part. But it's the thought that counts.


don't forget threatening to cut that guys balls off and selling them to a krogan!!!:devil:

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I've never done this one myself, but I am willing to do it next time.
I miss ME2 now...:crying:


Yeah, an ending in which your previous choices mattered (loyalty, choice of squad, ship upgrades, etc.) and felt like a badass escaping from the base by the skin of your teeth, as well as being able to stick it to the Illusive Man and the Reapers at the same time.  That was how you ended a game and felt like a hero doing it.