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Jetfire99 wrote...

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Will these people stop!, I'm 52 years old, I don't cry dammit! www.youtube.com/watch


Damn it Mr. Bond :( that got to me too.


I'll take that ending. That was perfect...  ok ok so my eyes watered up a little too...

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 Jessica just answered me back about why Geth die if they aren't Reaper tech

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/189165315916177411

The boy said shepard  would die if he chose destroy, but yet he lives, wtf??
If he is being completely honest then something is very wrong.


He also said "You're the first person to ever get this far".... he doesn't know anymore than we do.  A simple cutscene with Garrus voiceover, "Turns out the Citadel AI was wrong.. Shepard managed to cheat death again" and bam, no one would question it.

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Dj14365 wrote...

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I know i'm being obvious, but this would imply that since only reaper tech is destroyed, the part of the geth that was reaper code would be eliminated, but they would otherwise be all right.. Am I correct??

Did someone say *drum roll* OBVIOUS? :o

Anyway, i'd understand how the actual physical technology would be affected, but i don't see how it could erase or alter the code. That's kind of more peculiar.

Oh well, maybe it can, because :wizard:

I for some reason think it is easier to explain the opposite. A form of a modified emp that destroys reaper code/signal, yet I can't think of a way to send something capable of destroying physical material through the relays. IDK though.

PS I'm amazed the space magic emoticon is still in existence on here.

It is still the only way we have found of explaining the ending. :wizard:FTW!

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The boy said shepard  would die if he chose destroy, but yet he lives, wtf??
If he is being completely honest then something is very wrong.

This is what I attempted to explain to someone else, the catalyst lied, the other two options allow the Reapers to continue, in the control ending as slaves, but these are powerful beings and we know about slave rebelions, in the synthesis ending they are merged with organics, this was the reapers ultimate goal, so that only leaves destroy, that was the real threat and the reason the catalyst lied.

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RussianOrc wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...
 Jessica just answered me back about why Geth die if they aren't Reaper tech
twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/189165315916177411

The boy said shepard  would die if he chose destroy, but yet he lives, wtf??
If he is being completely honest then something is very wrong.

well I never thought he was honest at all..
If you encounter someone random on the streets, and he will tell you to choose either the red or blue pill...
no wait, that was matrix

....if some stranger you never met before tells you, you can instantly solve all problems with pressing buttons on some self-written smartphone-app, would you believe it?
I wouldn't

Thing is, I had no real choice, and it felt like someone pulled the plug right before (or after) the final boss encounter

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Jetfire99 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Will these people stop!, I'm 52 years old, I don't cry dammit! www.youtube.com/watch


Damn it Mr. Bond :( that got to me too.


I'll take that ending. That was perfect...  ok ok so my eyes watered up a little too...


That is all the ending I would have needed...

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I for some reason think it is easier to explain the opposite. A form of a modified emp that destroys reaper code/signal, yet I can't think of a way to send something capable of destroying physical material through the relays. IDK though.

PS I'm amazed the space magic emoticon is still in existence on here.


Eh i don't know. I see the code as just that : lines of number and some letters, What differanciate it from the others numbers and letters?

Physically, the EMP could overload the circuits and break the capacitors or their Reaper equivalent.

Im not sure how to explain. To me, it's easier to destroy the circuit physically then the codes that don't have any particular differences... Meh, again :wizard:

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DJBare wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...
The boy said shepard  would die if he chose destroy, but yet he lives, wtf??
If he is being completely honest then something is very wrong.

This is what I attempted to explain to someone else, the catalyst lied, the other two options allow the Reapers to continue, in the control ending as slaves, but these are powerful beings and we know about slave rebelions, in the synthesis ending they are merged with organics, this was the reapers ultimate goal, so that only leaves destroy, that was the real threat and the reason the catalyst lied.


Seriously, it would be so easy for them to create an Indoc ending to this and just say "yep, this was the plan all along". It would end this whole debacle and at least get them some of their reputation back. What possible reason is there to not take the easy way out? Especially sice the fans have practically already written it for them.

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she said we don't see the geth die, so theres no reason to believe him that they will die seeing as he lies about shepard dieing

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Bubi7 wrote...

well I never thought he was honest at all..
If you encounter someone random on the streets, and he will tell you to choose either the red or blue pill...
no wait, that was matrix

....if some stranger you never met before tells you, you can instantly solve all problems with pressing buttons on some self-written smartphone-app, would you believe it?
I wouldn't

Thing is, I had no real choice, and it felt like someone pulled the plug right before (or after) the final boss encounter


To be honest if I was standing on the outside of the citadel with a giant beam, attached to a giant super weapon while a race of synthetics destroyed everything around me I held dear while the entire galaxy fought back and my alien lover remained on a ship somewhere... I think I could probably believe Citadel kid at that point.

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DJBare wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...
The boy said shepard  would die if he chose destroy, but yet he lives, wtf??
If he is being completely honest then something is very wrong.

This is what I attempted to explain to someone else, the catalyst lied, the other two options allow the Reapers to continue, in the control ending as slaves, but these are powerful beings and we know about slave rebelions, in the synthesis ending they are merged with organics, this was the reapers ultimate goal, so that only leaves destroy, that was the real threat and the reason the catalyst lied.


Or, underestimated shepards  tenaciousness for living. Persnally, i thik the kid was in a state of shoc that shepard even made it that far, and was off his rocker for the most part of that conversation..

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Let me put it this way, why would I take the word of a being that's been trying to turn me into dna goo or a husk for three games?

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I for some reason think it is easier to explain the opposite. A form of a modified emp that destroys reaper code/signal, yet I can't think of a way to send something capable of destroying physical material through the relays. IDK though.

PS I'm amazed the space magic emoticon is still in existence on here.


Eh i don't know. I see the code as just that : lines of number and some letters, What differanciate it from the others numbers and letters?

Physically, the EMP could overload the circuits and break the capacitors or their Reaper equivalent.

Im not sure how to explain. To me, it's easier to destroy the circuit physically then the codes that don't have any particular differences... Meh, again :wizard:


In code, you pretty much just have to change one of the 0's to a 1 or vice versa and the entire meaning of the code is changed. Change too many and you scramble the code so much it's irrepairable.

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DJBare wrote...

Let me put it this way, why would I take the word of a being that's been trying to turn me into dna goo or a husk for three games?


Exactly. I didn't even listen to little creepy kid. All I thought was "I came to destroy the Reapers, so I will destroy them. Whatever happens, it happens" 
Wasn't that the main goal of the whole game? Kill the Reapers, I mean :huh:

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DJBare wrote...

Let me put it this way, why would I take the word of a being that's been trying to turn me into dna goo or a husk for three games?

Oh by all means no. i'm not at all challenging or arguing with you, but rather finding supporting circumstancial reasons for him lieing. The kid was scared ****less.. If i were a billion year old all but immortal kid, i'd be scared ****less too ( and lie through my teeth )..

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

In code, you pretty much just have to change one of the 0's to a 1 or vice versa and the entire meaning of the code is changed. Change too many and you scramble the code so much it's irrepairable.


Thats good and all, i just don't see how an EMP would know which codes to change. Last time i checked, EMP type beams weren't hackers...

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I can't wait for smudboy's next video. I hope he rips Bioware a new one.

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TamiBx wrote...

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Let me put it this way, why would I take the word of a being that's been trying to turn me into dna goo or a husk for three games?


Exactly. I didn't even listen to little creepy kid. All I thought was "I came to destroy the Reapers, so I will destroy them. Whatever happens, it happens" 
Wasn't that the main goal of the whole game? Kill the Reapers, I mean :huh:


Well, the whole point was to BEAT the reapers at any cost. Bioware just took the "at any cost" a bit far with the relays.
Technically, any of the 3 "options" would beat the reapers (if indoc theory isnt true).

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CaptnObvious wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

In code, you pretty much just have to change one of the 0's to a 1 or vice versa and the entire meaning of the code is changed. Change too many and you scramble the code so much it's irrepairable.


Thats good and all, i just don't see how an EMP would know which codes to change. Last time i checked, EMP type beams weren't hackers...


remember inside the geth mainframe where you had this "gun" that would only destroy reaper code but not geth code?? same thing.. I think..

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CaptnObvious wrote...

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there was avatar on tv today, and it reminded me on what I actually wanted... The same thing as in ME3
little blue babies :(

Lol there were probably a whole bunch a little blue babies on the ending's jungle planet... One from each of the Normandy's crew members. Liara will be quite busy :lol:


but... but .....but Liara can't cheat on femshep. That would be weird. After shep saving her life a few times, and the other way around... *mumbling something incomprehensible*
Liara as LI is still my fav setting, especially with such a mother-in-law (Claudia Black is awesome)

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CaptnObvious wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

In code, you pretty much just have to change one of the 0's to a 1 or vice versa and the entire meaning of the code is changed. Change too many and you scramble the code so much it's irrepairable.


Thats good and all, i just don't see how an EMP would know which codes to change. Last time i checked, EMP type beams weren't hackers...


This is just another example of how Space magic has opened the window to the dreaded word "Speculation".  For all we know the mulitcoloured explosion gave all synthetics in the galaxy ice cream and they could handel such generousity and shut down.

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Exactly. I didn't even listen to little creepy kid. All I thought was "I came to destroy the Reapers, so I will destroy them. Whatever happens, it happens" 
Wasn't that the main goal of the whole game? Kill the Reapers, I mean :huh:

exactly, plus Anderson was the one they showed when the options were being presented so IMO it was the only way to go after that

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TamiBx wrote...

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Let me put it this way, why would I take the word of a being that's been trying to turn me into dna goo or a husk for three games?


Exactly. I didn't even listen to little creepy kid. All I thought was "I came to destroy the Reapers, so I will destroy them. Whatever happens, it happens" 
Wasn't that the main goal of the whole game? Kill the Reapers, I mean :huh:


That is exactly why I picked the destroy option in my first and only playthrough.  I have played for three games to stop this cycle.  Come hell or high water, I was going to stop it.

I really hope the geth didn't die.  I sleep better when I haven't committed genocide.  Just saying.

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CaptnObvious wrote...

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In code, you pretty much just have to change one of the 0's to a 1 or vice versa and the entire meaning of the code is changed. Change too many and you scramble the code so much it's irrepairable.


Thats good and all, i just don't see how an EMP would know which codes to change. Last time i checked, EMP type beams weren't hackers...


It could be like a remote desktop signal, but it can only do certain things, like uninstalling the reaper code.

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Or, underestimated shepards  tenaciousness for living. Persnally, i thik the kid was in a state of shoc that shepard even made it that far, and was off his rocker for the most part of that conversation..

It has no reason to be in shock, it has every reason to prevent Shepard from destroying it's plans and it's minions, it needs to remembered that Reapers are part organic as well, it's survival, and a lie is one way to attempt survival, evolution incorporated lying as a means of survival, now that may sound strange given that lying can lead to many bad things, but that's only because it's corrupted, take splitting the atom as an example, a great means of supplying energy demands, but it got subverted.