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#77926
Fox544

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Idk. I think if they did that it would feel kinda out of place. That essentially says all LIs are bi. It has more weight I think if crew members appear to have their own preferences other than what the player ascribes to them.

Well Tali never had anyone, so shes no bi, and since each new Shepard is basically a new story, there should be room for debate :P

I mean, if you start a FShep from the first game, would it be SO out of place for Tali to really love her?


Idk. Again it doesn't feel like the character has a preference. It just feels like its going to far toward the sims. If the player chooses a new sex should a non player driven characters preferences change? It just seems more realistic in the terms of the LI subplot if characters just don't swing that way.

I see where letting the player choose would appeal. It gives more choices and possibilities but I think that would be at the cost of character uniqueness.

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Fox544 wrote...

Idk. I think if they did that it would feel kinda out of place. That essentially says all LIs are bi. It has more weight I think if crew members appear to have their own preferences other than what the player ascribes to them.


Indeed, its a strange balance that needs to be struck.

The characters must be maleable to a degree to show that you're influencing them, and yet they must stand by some decisions to make them seem like more than cookie cutter pieces.

Take DA2 for example. I hated two specific squad members tolerated another two and genuinely liked 3

The two I hated, Anders and Fenris.

These two were the most unmalleable characters in the ENTIRE goddamn game. They ****ed and moaned and ****ed and moaned and ****ed and moaned all the while looking at the world through a skewed eyelens that only let them see one perspective.

Theirs

Everyone else was wrong or against them.

Hence, unlikeable character

Both of these characters are also completely Bi if I recall with one (Anders) practically shoving a romance option down your throat before you had to pointedly tell him "**** off, not interested)

The two characters I tolerated Sebastian and Isabella.

Sebastian is a choir boy, through and through, no questions asked. But even though he's a choirboy he can be influenced and even though he doesn't in the end, really change his views, the conflict centered around his self imposed mission, his views on the chantry and his duty to it as well as your influence make for a fairly complex character in and of itself. So again, Malleable, but rigid in some things.

Isabella is a ****. Through and through she admits to it she flaunts it and she doesn't give a rats ass about anyone farther than she can throw them until you show up and again, influence her. If your influence is high enough, or positive enough you can get her to become less selfish. So again, her character is set in her ways (to a degree) but your influence does change her in a subtle but significant way.

The three Characters I liked of DA2 were Merill, Varic and Aveline.

These three however fall relatively outside the spectrum of "control" and "set" that the others do.

Because you don't influence varic in any way shape or form. Varic is in truth, a Character that seems to influence you more than you influence him which is a nice change of pace.

Aveline, is a Character that rises to her station right at your side, so you don't ever see her (at least I didn't) as a subordinate, but an equal. That she follows your lead in some aspects is neither here nor there but Aveline will pull your coat if she feels she has to.

And Meril is a Character that, is truth be told, one of the most distant to Hawke, and you the protagonist are trapped watching a friend in a self destructive path. You have no control because the reigns were never handed to you in the first place.

These three characters were the best of the bunch because they never fell into the spectrum the others were caught in.

But they were only succesful because they were exceptions to the rule, not the rule itself.

For the other characters of Bioware's DA series, they utterly fail because they start out in the "boundary field" of Hawke's control, but end up trying to either bullrush their way out of it literary speaking (Anders and Fenris)

Or, don't trully meet the full potential that they could have reached within this "spectrum" of influence/control/resistance.

Modifié par ld1449, 09 avril 2012 - 07:33 .


#77928
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The Fazzle wrote...

NOUF_N7 wrote...

http://arstechnica.c...this-summer.ars

i know what will be...soooooooooo weak


I hate to say it, but I have a feeling that this pretty much equals to polishing a turd, as BW attempts to rub it's artistic integrity in our faces. But hey, at least their doing something about it. Very interested to see what they come up with, but I'm still not getting my hopes up.

my hopes too...looooooooooooooow

#77929
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And Damn did I really let that DA post get away from me lol.

Sorry :P

#77930
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Atrocity wrote...

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Atrocity wrote...
You don't say :P
www.vgcats.com/comics/

LOL omg, thanks, hadn't seen that ! xD

You're welcome. The bit with Shepard and Wrex is priceless :lol:

"Assuming direct control....." lol

#77931
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Ok apparently the early morning crew is here. Which is telling me it might be time for bed, especially since I was around when they went to bed. So in that note it is time to putnth ipad away and get some sleeps. Good night ladies and gentlebeings... Or maybe that's good morning...bah I have no clue. Anyway be back sometime later.

HOLD THE LINE! And the wallet

#77932
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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Ok apparently the early morning crew is here. Which is telling me it might be time for bed, especially since I was around when they went to bed. So in that note it is time to putnth ipad away and get some sleeps. Good night ladies and gentlebeings... Or maybe that's good morning...bah I have no clue. Anyway be back sometime later.

HOLD THE LINE! And the wallet

Good night Kyria, sleep well and we'll catch you later!

#77933
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i just want ending close everything..What happened to jack,miranda and all the Normandy crew?

NOT GOOD ending..bioware :)

#77934
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 I got a letter. The name on the envelope said 'Shepard.'
My friend's name...
It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true...
That's what I keep telling myself...
A dead person can't write a letter.
Shepard died of that damn Reaper three years ago.
So then why am I looking for him'
Our 'special place'...
What could he mean?
This whole citadel was our special place.
Does he mean the park on the lake'
We spent the whole day there.
Just the two of us, staring at the water.
Could Shepard really be there?
Is he really alive... waiting for me?

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xHezz90 wrote...

Hey all I'm back, great isn't it? *crickets* yeah...didn't think so hehe :D

How is everyone today?

Anything of note happen in 13 hours?


~flops on and flails~

morning Image IPBImage IPB

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

Atrocity wrote...
You don't say :P
www.vgcats.com/comics/

LOL omg, thanks, hadn't seen that ! xD

You're welcome. The bit with Shepard and Wrex is priceless :lol:

"Assuming direct control....." lol

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?

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chmarr wrote...
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?

Full of win, thanks for that too. :lol:

#77938
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CaptnObvious wrote...

 I got a letter. The name on the envelope said 'Shepard.'
My friend's name...
It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true...
That's what I keep telling myself...
A dead person can't write a letter.
Shepard died of that damn Reaper three years ago.
So then why am I looking for him'
Our 'special place'...
What could he mean?
This whole citadel was our special place.
Does he mean the park on the lake'
We spent the whole day there.
Just the two of us, staring at the water.
Could Shepard really be there?
Is he really alive... waiting for me?


Huh???

#77939
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chmarr wrote...

~flops on and flails~

morning Image IPBImage IPB


You're very floppy and flaily today :D everything OK?


Trying to make a new signature ... can't think what best represents my mental state about this situation at the moment ... more speculation for me I suppose. <_<

#77940
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chmarr wrote...

~flops on and flails~

morning Image IPBImage IPB


LOL what are you a fish? :P

Good day (tis night time here by the by)

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ld1449 wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

 I got a letter. The name on the envelope said 'Shepard.'
My friend's name...
It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true...
That's what I keep telling myself...
A dead person can't write a letter.
Shepard died of that damn Reaper three years ago.
So then why am I looking for him'
Our 'special place'...
What could he mean?
This whole citadel was our special place.
Does he mean the park on the lake'
We spent the whole day there.
Just the two of us, staring at the water.
Could Shepard really be there?
Is he really alive... waiting for me?


Huh???


I just started a new Silent Hill 2 game, and when i heard the letter read by James, i just thought it fit ME3 if you'd replace Mary with Shepard...

Sorry about that...:unsure:

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evisneffo wrote...
You're very floppy and flaily today :D everything OK?
Trying to make a new signature ... can't think what best represents my mental state about this situation at the moment ... more speculation for me I suppose. <_<


maybe have a basket case as your mood todayImage IPB

#77943
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ld1449 wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

 I got a letter. The name on the envelope said 'Shepard.'
My friend's name...
It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true...
That's what I keep telling myself...
A dead person can't write a letter.
Shepard died of that damn Reaper three years ago.
So then why am I looking for him'
Our 'special place'...
What could he mean?
This whole citadel was our special place.
Does he mean the park on the lake'
We spent the whole day there.
Just the two of us, staring at the water.
Could Shepard really be there?
Is he really alive... waiting for me?


Huh???


lol I'm kinda in the same place. Huh?

Edit- OoOoO Silent Hill 2. Good memories.

Modifié par Fox544, 09 avril 2012 - 07:58 .


#77944
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CaptnObvious wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

 I got a letter. The name on the envelope said 'Shepard.'
My friend's name...
It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true...
That's what I keep telling myself...
A dead person can't write a letter.
Shepard died of that damn Reaper three years ago.
So then why am I looking for him'
Our 'special place'...
What could he mean?
This whole citadel was our special place.
Does he mean the park on the lake'
We spent the whole day there.
Just the two of us, staring at the water.
Could Shepard really be there?
Is he really alive... waiting for me?



I just started a new Silent Hill 2 game, and when i heard the letter read by James, i just thought it fit ME3 if you'd replace Mary with Shepard...

Sorry about that...:unsure:


It does fit....:(

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xHezz90 wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

 I got a letter. The name on the envelope said 'Shepard.'
My friend's name...
It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true...
That's what I keep telling myself...
A dead person can't write a letter.
Shepard died of that damn Reaper three years ago.
So then why am I looking for him'
Our 'special place'...
What could he mean?
This whole citadel was our special place.
Does he mean the park on the lake'
We spent the whole day there.
Just the two of us, staring at the water.
Could Shepard really be there?
Is he really alive... waiting for me?


It does fit....:(


Really? Thanks. I mean, i'd see Garrus saying that, after that time they had the sniper duel, but i wasn't sure if it made sense =]

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CaptnObvious wrote...

Really? Thanks. I mean, i'd see Garrus saying that, after that time they had the sniper duel, but i wasn't sure if it made sense =]


Really really, I could see Garrus saying it too. Garrus was my bestest bud (and in my other game my LI but I haven't subjected that Shep to ME3)

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I just found out that the Shepard I subjected to ME3 has been committed to an asylum.
Poor guy...

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-PG-Skyre wrote...

I just found out that the Shepard I subjected to ME3 has been committed to an asylum.
Poor guy...


Awww...mine died :?

We'll send your Shep flowers in the morning :P

#77949
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Fox544 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

 I got a letter. The name on the envelope said 'Shepard.'
My friend's name...
It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true...
That's what I keep telling myself...
A dead person can't write a letter.
Shepard died of that damn Reaper three years ago.
So then why am I looking for him'
Our 'special place'...
What could he mean?
This whole citadel was our special place.
Does he mean the park on the lake'
We spent the whole day there.
Just the two of us, staring at the water.
Could Shepard really be there?
Is he really alive... waiting for me?


Huh???


lol I'm kinda in the same place. Huh?

Edit- OoOoO Silent Hill 2. Good memories.

 
To anyone who might've an "Huh???" , just click that link youtu.be/h_eiBl7dmKg

Edit: Sorry, i feel bad about staling that thread. Feels everyone leaved after my comment :wizard:

Modifié par CaptnObvious, 09 avril 2012 - 08:19 .


#77950
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The only romance option that would have felt out of place would be mShep and Wrex but on the other side I'd have done it. But I agree giving your crew preferences made it more real.

Modifié par Mokiki, 09 avril 2012 - 08:23 .