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[recentio]

albertalad wrote...

Whatever, BW has painted themselves into a corner now. Their "idiot" endings cannot be changed as copies have been shipped starting a week ago to suppliers in order to be sent to folks on time. Now they're stuck with their own garbage of their own making - BW got exposed by their own stupidity. Even some of the testers they hired felt forced to inform fans of Mass Effect 3 and how bad the ME 3 turned out to be, plus BW's idiocy of the Space disaster came back to bite them in the ****. The moment I saw that clunker I groaned out loud and gave them 2 days at most for photos to appear on Utube. I think I was dead on accurate on that prediction. Even a fool could predict the outcome of that stunt - that alone was an indication of the type of thinking going on at BW. To me at least that alone proved their thinking is so flawed and out of thouch with reality none of them understood the PR nightmare they were directly responsible for and proved in depth by the multiple leaks here. Just as their thinking in the final mission - idiotic, pointless, and so amateurish as to defy any SF logic let alone magic logic.

The fact that leaks happened would not be a bad thing at all if it weren't for the fact that the leaks reveal something both horrible and unavoidable -- that the crew gets marooned on bumf*** planet and Shepard can never see any of them again no matter what you do. That's the PR nightmare. I'm sooo glad I found out in time to cancel my pre-order. I would have been livid if I'd discovered this after dropping $60. Instead, I'm just upset and disappointed. And confused -- why force that kind of character and relationship doom as something inescapable?

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

Gexora wrote...

I have just had this thought which almost crashed my hopes.
In the supposedly leaked script which seems legit, Garrus is defenitely in the position of command (he even salutes you), and so, I think, is Tali (with turian and quarian forces if they survived, respectively). So may it be that you are forced to leave them with, eh, main force?
I am not ready to believe BW pulling the colony crap with too loved characters obviously starving to death, but like that... who knows.

The script was legit, but they said they'd changed portions of the things happening in it. I think folks just don't realize how serious war is when you're already dealing with a force this omnipotent. I think the ending, as far as we know about it from the available data, is perfectly realistic, and to be honest, I'm tired of the hollywood style endings where everybody lives and conquers the ridiculously powerful enemy with cheap deus ex machinas. In a war like this, there's bound to be sacrifices. If there is a magical seventh ending, however, that shows them al surviving as rumors claim, then it's definitely not going to be easy to get.

I thought pretty colors / explosions and deaths are also Hollywood?
No matter what they would do, it's a cliche these days.

And still, instead of Hollywood, we go for Deus Ex (the game) and this magic colored beam.

[Rob_K1]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

Actually, if the leaks are true, there is supposed to be one ending where Shepard lives. Apologies if I'm misunderstanding, Sashimi and Whatever.

Yeah, Shepard lives in one ending. And the crew survives in several. It's the perception that they are separated, possibly thinking each other dead, with the crew marooned is what has many people upset.

The final movie somewhat appears to be on the same planet as the marooned Normandy (same moons) so people are extrapolating that the Normandy crew colonized the planet (this is a little disputed) - which causes more uproar since we see several problems with that idea.

But replace that ending movie with a new one and bam! problem solved. Heck, it wouldn't even need voice.

Of course, there may be rendered scenes in the game which make it better already - but no one has mentioned anything like that.

Yeah, I get that. I just wasn't sure if Sashimi was thinking there was no way that Shepard survived with the video linked being of Shepard.

I think it's telling at the end of the day though that the people who have the game have enjoyed the endings. So... *shrugs*

Modifié par Rob_K1, 02 mars 2012 - 05:07 .

[recentio]

Exia001 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

Someone confirm this but APPARENTLY its possible to be with your LI/VS at the end... but Liara is always marooned.

True?

No, not really. In order for that to happen you have to break up with them. 

You can headcanon though. Like "Shepard wakes up on Earth and his/her LI/VS runs up to them blah blah blah, years later, they have a kid".

What does headcannon mean?

Headcannon means fanwanking. And fans are wanking this ending harder than anything I've ever seen before -- we're that desparate to imagine that somehow Shepard can reunite with his LI and the crew isn't doomed to found a colony of primitive inbreeds.

Modifié par recentio, 02 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[albertalad]

Nothing makes any kind of sense in ME 3. What happened to the thirteen and a half million civilians on the Citadel? The 17 million civilians in the Quarian fleet? Moving that many civilians to settled planets would take at least a month alone. Then that alone would require every ship in the galaxy just for that feat. Now rake into consideration of the time required - what the heck is there left to save on earth by then? That's not even counting the time it takes to organize such a massive undertaking - combined with Sheppard having to fight his way through ME3 and travel between worlds, deal with TIM and his little army - none of this makes any sense what so ever.

That's not even counting the amateurish endings and that fight. Either the Reapers did nothing at all while Sheppard went off on his journey - or BW badly underestimated the intelligence of their own audience. I go for the latter myself.

[DeinonSlayer]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The .bik will not show you getting up, since that would need to be rendered with your actual appearance.

You know, thinking about this, its quite easily fixed with just a different ending movie. FTL is not destroyed and Shepard can live. All they would need is one movie, showing a rescue and a reunion, and all would be well for 90% of those upset here.

And all that would have required is that the Normandy instead crash on Earth. The people excusing this with the "1000 variables" argument... have no argument.

[wolf99000]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

Witty_Remark wrote...

TL;DR: They said they didn't have to do this. If they don't have an ace up their sleeve, then they either lied to us or they over-hyped what was possible to do and probably don't feel that great about it anyway.

Yesterday a thread started up to compile all of the promises and hype they made about ME3 and its endings, then it was promptly closed without explanation once they discovered it.

That one has a sequel. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9574260/1

just read this on there

Eliantariel wrote...
On twitter there was a post some time ago concerning great relationship moments and wedding, here the quotes:

Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson When r u gonna give us a kromance? Beyond time! Hope u'll have gr8 relationship moments, some of my Sheps wanna get wed.

Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson Also, please let Joker get with someone already, the man has SSSSOOO earned it! :D9 Mai
in Antwort auf ↑ 

@CaseyDHudsonCasey Hudson@Raving_Ranter I think we've got you covered on all counts, except maybe the Kromance.

not sure what casey means he has it covered if what we know is right

[evilpotato]

Remember the good old days of DA:Origins where each major NPC got a 1 page screen of text epilogue outlining what they did after the end of the warden's story. How hard would it have been for Bioware to do something like that to give a definite ending and closure for the ME characters instead of this 'It's Over" fade to black ending. It would have added, what like 4 MBs to the disc size. I'm honestly surprised that after building up that this game would be the end of Shepard's story they failed to recognize that people would expect some actual closure to the various characters' storylines as opposed to this beat the final level fade to black.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

marstor05 wrote...

off topic but launch trailer

Two Steps From Hell - Protectors of the Earth

Heh, I should've seen that coming.

[Capeo]

wolf99000 wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

Witty_Remark wrote...

TL;DR: They said they didn't have to do this. If they don't have an ace up their sleeve, then they either lied to us or they over-hyped what was possible to do and probably don't feel that great about it anyway.

Yesterday a thread started up to compile all of the promises and hype they made about ME3 and its endings, then it was promptly closed without explanation once they discovered it.

That one has a sequel. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9574260/1

just read this on there

Eliantariel wrote...
On twitter there was a post some time ago concerning great relationship moments and wedding, here the quotes:

Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson When r u gonna give us a kromance? Beyond time! Hope u'll have gr8 relationship moments, some of my Sheps wanna get wed.

Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson Also, please let Joker get with someone already, the man has SSSSOOO earned it! :D9 Mai
in Antwort auf ↑ 

@CaseyDHudsonCasey Hudson@Raving_Ranter I think we've got you covered on all counts, except maybe the Kromance.

not sure what casey means he has it covered if what we know is right

Well, Joker gets with EDI but I've heard nothing of a wedding for Shep.

[recentio]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

Gexora wrote...

I have just had this thought which almost crashed my hopes.
In the supposedly leaked script which seems legit, Garrus is defenitely in the position of command (he even salutes you), and so, I think, is Tali (with turian and quarian forces if they survived, respectively). So may it be that you are forced to leave them with, eh, main force?
I am not ready to believe BW pulling the colony crap with too loved characters obviously starving to death, but like that... who knows.

The script was legit, but they said they'd changed portions of the things happening in it. I think folks just don't realize how serious war is when you're already dealing with a force this omnipotent. I think the ending, as far as we know about it from the available data, is perfectly realistic, and to be honest, I'm tired of the hollywood style endings where everybody lives and conquers the ridiculously powerful enemy with cheap deus ex machinas. In a war like this, there's bound to be sacrifices. If there is a magical seventh ending, however, that shows them al surviving as rumors claim, then it's definitely not going to be easy to get.

Then I guess you may enjoy the ending -- that's great. Someone should.

I, for one, am not tired of Hollywood endings. I have RL to make me feel sad and hopeless. It is not something I look for in entertainment. Including a somewhat happier ending where at least Shepard and his crew/LI face the end together would not take the "realistic" ending out (or be unrealistic itself). So you would get what you like, and so would I. That seems like a better deal all around to me. I wish BW had taken that route instead of funneling every possible player choice into one and only one ending.

[DeinonSlayer]

wolf99000 wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

Witty_Remark wrote...
TL;DR: They said they didn't have to do this. If they don't have an ace up their sleeve, then they either lied to us or they over-hyped what was possible to do and probably don't feel that great about it anyway.

Yesterday a thread started up to compile all of the promises and hype they made about ME3 and its endings, then it was promptly closed without explanation once they discovered it.

That one has a sequel. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9574260/1

just read this on there
Eliantariel wrote...On twitter there was a post some time ago concerning great relationship moments and wedding, here the quotes:
Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson When r u gonna give us a kromance? Beyond time! Hope u'll have gr8 relationship moments, some of my Sheps wanna get wed.
Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson Also, please let Joker get with someone already, the man has SSSSOOO earned it! :D9 Maiin Antwort auf ↑ 
@CaseyDHudsonCasey Hudson@Raving_Ranter I think we've got you covered on all counts, except maybe the Kromance.
not sure what casey means he has it covered if what we know is right

Oh, you get to reaffirm each of your relationships. Talimancers get their moment of triumph and unmasking on Rannoch, etc. Everyone gets to make their promises... then it all falls apart in the last ten minutes of the 100+ hour trilogy.
What, you mean you didn't want abandonment, incest and starvation? <_<

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 02 mars 2012 - 05:22 .

[Capeo]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

Gexora wrote...

I have just had this thought which almost crashed my hopes.
In the supposedly leaked script which seems legit, Garrus is defenitely in the position of command (he even salutes you), and so, I think, is Tali (with turian and quarian forces if they survived, respectively). So may it be that you are forced to leave them with, eh, main force?
I am not ready to believe BW pulling the colony crap with too loved characters obviously starving to death, but like that... who knows.

The script was legit, but they said they'd changed portions of the things happening in it. I think folks just don't realize how serious war is when you're already dealing with a force this omnipotent. I think the ending, as far as we know about it from the available data, is perfectly realistic, and to be honest, I'm tired of the hollywood style endings where everybody lives and conquers the ridiculously powerful enemy with cheap deus ex machinas. In a war like this, there's bound to be sacrifices. If there is a magical seventh ending, however, that shows them al surviving as rumors claim, then it's definitely not going to be easy to get.

Uh, finding a weapon at the final hour that sends out Space Beams that merge synthetics and organics into Cyborg Hybrids isn't a little dues ex machina for you?

Aside from that nobody is asking for butterflies and unicorns here.  Just an ending that doesn't seperate Shep from his crew.

Modifié par Capeo, 02 mars 2012 - 05:18 .

[Capeo]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

wolf99000 wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

Witty_Remark wrote...
TL;DR: They said they didn't have to do this. If they don't have an ace up their sleeve, then they either lied to us or they over-hyped what was possible to do and probably don't feel that great about it anyway.

Yesterday a thread started up to compile all of the promises and hype they made about ME3 and its endings, then it was promptly closed without explanation once they discovered it.

That one has a sequel. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9574260/1

just read this on there
Eliantariel wrote...On twitter there was a post some time ago concerning great relationship moments and wedding, here the quotes:
Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson When r u gonna give us a kromance? Beyond time! Hope u'll have gr8 relationship moments, some of my Sheps wanna get wed.
Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson Also, please let Joker get with someone already, the man has SSSSOOO earned it! :D9 Maiin Antwort auf ↑ 
@CaseyDHudsonCasey Hudson@Raving_Ranter I think we've got you covered on all counts, except maybe the Kromance.
not sure what casey means he has it covered if what we know is right

Oh, you get to reaffirm each of your relationships. Talimancers get their moment of triumph and unmasking on Rannoch, etc. Everyone gets to make their promises... then it all falls apart in the last ten minutes of the 100+ hour trilogy.

There are no Quarian un maskings.  When you fulfill the Tali romance she gives you a picture of her face and apparently that is pretty much masked by lens flare so you can't even really see it.

[Bigdoser]

A simple solution to this whole problem is simply make the Normandy crash on earth. I think people don't want the ending itself to be changed I think people want what happens to the Normandy to be changed cause the Normandy making a colony is bloody dumb imo.

[wolf99000]

Capeo wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

wolf99000 wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

Witty_Remark wrote...
TL;DR: They said they didn't have to do this. If they don't have an ace up their sleeve, then they either lied to us or they over-hyped what was possible to do and probably don't feel that great about it anyway.

Yesterday a thread started up to compile all of the promises and hype they made about ME3 and its endings, then it was promptly closed without explanation once they discovered it.

That one has a sequel. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9574260/1

just read this on there
Eliantariel wrote...On twitter there was a post some time ago concerning great relationship moments and wedding, here the quotes:
Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson When r u gonna give us a kromance? Beyond time! Hope u'll have gr8 relationship moments, some of my Sheps wanna get wed.
Raving_Ranter:@CaseyDHudson Also, please let Joker get with someone already, the man has SSSSOOO earned it! :D9 Maiin Antwort auf ↑ 
@CaseyDHudsonCasey Hudson@Raving_Ranter I think we've got you covered on all counts, except maybe the Kromance.
not sure what casey means he has it covered if what we know is right

Oh, you get to reaffirm each of your relationships. Talimancers get their moment of triumph and unmasking on Rannoch, etc. Everyone gets to make their promises... then it all falls apart in the last ten minutes of the 100+ hour trilogy.

There are no Quarian un maskings.  When you fulfill the Tali romance she gives you a picture of her face and apparently that is pretty much masked by lens flare so you can't even really see it.

wow the one thing I figured they would do is keep the promise to show her face

[DeinonSlayer]

Capeo wrote...

There are no Quarian un maskings.  When you fulfill the Tali romance she gives you a picture of her face and apparently that is pretty much masked by lens flare so you can't even really see it.

Okay, that is kind of funny. 

[crimzontearz]

wait...256 mb

are we sure???

[albertalad]

I'm sorry guys/ladies but nothing can be changed now. The games have shipped as is - any other ending, if not already covered in the game itself which looks very doubtful, can only be modified by a BW add on content at this point in time. Its far too late to make changes to the original.

[GreenSoda]

Hmm right now I remember a similar thread like this, shortly before DA:O was released. In there ppl somehow found out that the Warden would die early no matter what (when the Deep Roads call him) -the arguments put forward in that one sounded pretty similar, too. (Any ending would be meaningless, feelings of betrayal, etc...).

...it just didn't grow as fast as this one does, though.