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GroverA125 wrote...

Something just got me then. While I was thinking about the way the destroy option would work, I began to wonder HOW it would destroy all synthetics. Then something got me, is there actually anything stopping the non-hostile synthetic allies (eg. the geth, EDI, etc.) from being remade? I mean, the Quarians (if they didn't blow them up, and vice-versa) realised that the geth were actually nice people and were helping them to survive on their planet and rebuild. Surely they would try to re-create them, and this time (should they not have any knowledge of their previous lives) do things right? Same with EDI, I can't see Joker letting up on her death easy, and what with Liara, one of the most influential people in the galaxy, I'm sure that someone would come along and try to rebuild her.

Mind you, all that is blown out the water if we are to assume things, because then we have to assume that virtually all sentient life is dead and those who aren't will be shortly due to lack of supply chains, and so on so forth...

I guess one of the problems with that would be that they would never be the same as the Geth. The Geth and EDI developed in the way they did because of their experiences and for the Geth, only Legion's sacrifice gave them all that bit of Reaper code to give them intelligence.

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GroverA125 wrote...

Something just got me then. While I was thinking about the way the destroy option would work, I began to wonder HOW it would destroy all synthetics. Then something got me, is there actually anything stopping the non-hostile synthetic allies (eg. the geth, EDI, etc.) from being remade? I mean, the Quarians (if they didn't blow them up, and vice-versa) realised that the geth were actually nice people and were helping them to survive on their planet and rebuild. Surely they would try to re-create them, and this time (should they not have any knowledge of their previous lives) do things right? Same with EDI, I can't see Joker letting up on her death easy, and what with Liara, one of the most influential people in the galaxy, I'm sure that someone would come along and try to rebuild her.

Mind you, all that is blown out the water if we are to assume things, because then we have to assume that virtually all sentient life is dead and those who aren't will be shortly due to lack of supply chains, and so on so forth...


And if Synthethesis turns everyone into a half-organic half-synthetic cyborg, what's to stop these cyborgs from remaking their own synthetics to serve them.

Don't think about it too much, because Bioware never thought about it in the first place. :lol:

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Ok back from work. Yes had to work on a Bank Holiday Monday =(. Thought I'd at least try a 2nd playthrough last nite but got to Mars and then thought about the ending and couldn't go any further.

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The Expendables 2 is coming out soon, can't wait to see it - they're adding in Chuck Norris and Jean Claude van Damme! (yes I am a girl btw)


Ooooh it's coming out soon? *gets excited* the trailer makes it look like Bruce Willis may be in it more this time :wub:
Not actually a huge fan of Chuck Norris, I think he's pretty dreadful lol, but it's cool he is in it.

Not so fussed about Chuck Norris but the fact that he's in it just  makes it cooler. I want to see more from Jet Li though. It looks like Arnie has a bigger role too.

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GroverA125 wrote...

Something just got me then. While I was thinking about the way the destroy option would work, I began to wonder HOW it would destroy all synthetics. Then something got me, is there actually anything stopping the non-hostile synthetic allies (eg. the geth, EDI, etc.) from being remade? I mean, the Quarians (if they didn't blow them up, and vice-versa) realised that the geth were actually nice people and were helping them to survive on their planet and rebuild. Surely they would try to re-create them, and this time (should they not have any knowledge of their previous lives) do things right? Same with EDI, I can't see Joker letting up on her death easy, and what with Liara, one of the most influential people in the galaxy, I'm sure that someone would come along and try to rebuild her.

Mind you, all that is blown out the water if we are to assume things, because then we have to assume that virtually all sentient life is dead and those who aren't will be shortly due to lack of supply chains, and so on so forth...


Disclaimer: I in no way, shape, form or fashion believe anything the starchild says.  

That said.  To become sentient Legion (or Geth VI if you didn't have Legion for whatever reason) had to upload the Reaper code to the entire Geth Consensus.  EDI was enhanced using Reaper tech and code, as well as Eva's body having been filled with Reaper tech.  So... if you follow logic (which yes I know the entire last 20 minutes of ME 3 defies logic) when the pulse that went out destroyed all Reaper tech, then that would take down the Geth and EDI, and if you were to recreate the Geth and EDI they would not be the same, even if you could acheive sentience with both.  Then you would be starting that circular logic issue with the Reapers all over again.. /sigh just trying to find sense in the ending(s) gives me a headache.

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chmarr wrote...

holy crap

I WANT THIS GAME


A-. wtf are the Elcor living tanks. they are like the asari are to krogans. super strong but few of them. Not urge toe xpand.

B- wth are the hanar who actually are outfitted with cybernetic and mechanical help like thane said. where is BLASTO, or its real counterpart.

C-... wth are the rachni brood warriors tearing zhit up!.

d- and finally..... wth happended to the raloi?

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OK who let Chmarr near the search engine again?

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Not so fussed about Chuck Norris but the fact that he's in it just  makes it cooler. I want to see more from Jet Li though. It looks like Arnie has a bigger role too.


Yeah, Jet Li always makes me go "d'awwwwww" lol. & yeah I noticed that, I really like the first one so the second one should be good! B)

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WTF is those pink ponies? They are some kind of kid's television program or something?


Wait....you've never heard of My Little Pony? :blink:

They were kids toys, though I think it was eventually made into a TV Program


Nope. Never saw them here in Brazil. Understand. The same that happened to barbie and it's  movies (I watched one last week. Had to see Star Troopers and The Expendables to clean my mind XD)

The Expendables 2 is coming out soon, can't wait to see it - they're adding in Chuck Norris and Jean Claude van Damme! (yes I am a girl btw)


Your kidding right?! :o DUDE THAT WOULD BE SO WICKED!!!! :devil::devil: More huge exsplosions! SWEETNESS!

Oh yes -

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Your kidding right?! :o DUDE THAT WOULD BE SO WICKED!!!! :devil::devil: More huge exsplosions! SWEETNESS!

I find the movie invalid, with chuck norris in the movie, there can be no storyline, Chuck is like starchild, he does everything for you. Edit: Exept Chuck Norris is cool.

Modifié par Jere85, 09 avril 2012 - 05:50 .


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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Something just got me then. While I was thinking about the way the destroy option would work, I began to wonder HOW it would destroy all synthetics. Then something got me, is there actually anything stopping the non-hostile synthetic allies (eg. the geth, EDI, etc.) from being remade? I mean, the Quarians (if they didn't blow them up, and vice-versa) realised that the geth were actually nice people and were helping them to survive on their planet and rebuild. Surely they would try to re-create them, and this time (should they not have any knowledge of their previous lives) do things right? Same with EDI, I can't see Joker letting up on her death easy, and what with Liara, one of the most influential people in the galaxy, I'm sure that someone would come along and try to rebuild her.

Mind you, all that is blown out the water if we are to assume things, because then we have to assume that virtually all sentient life is dead and those who aren't will be shortly due to lack of supply chains, and so on so forth...


Disclaimer: I in no way, shape, form or fashion believe anything the starchild says.

That said. To become sentient Legion (or Geth VI if you didn't have Legion for whatever reason) had to upload the Reaper code to the entire Geth Consensus. EDI was enhanced using Reaper tech and code, as well as Eva's body having been filled with Reaper tech. So... if you follow logic (which yes I know the entire last 20 minutes of ME 3 defies logic) when the pulse that went out destroyed all Reaper tech, then that would take down the Geth and EDI, and if you were to recreate the Geth and EDI they would not be the same, even if you could acheive sentience with both. Then you would be starting that circular logic issue with the Reapers all over again.. /sigh just trying to find sense in the ending(s) gives me a headache.


The Geth use reaper code. Code isn't tangible. So it isn't tech per say. Hardware is.

EDI's cyberwarfe suite originally based its attack protocols on reaper tech. But as you find in ME2. her personality was the same even before the shackles were removed which disconnected her for reaper algorithms. before ME3 she also states that she has evolved inw ays that no computer could picture. Meaning she might have started with reaper tech but she is completely different now. And based on different structures. Also because alot of her programs helping self awareness are spread around the suite. We all started in Africa in you follow back our genes. That doesn't mean I am African. We've evolved for a long time. EDI just did it in a short while.

All in all, the ending I thought was of course destroying synthetics.

A- "you are partly synthetic"... yeah what about the quarians. They use extensive cybernetics to interact with their suits.
B- What about Kasumi, she has cybernetics, you think their agility comes from gymnastics? that woman had stuff added.
C- The star child lied to you, or contradicted himself most of the time. So there is no reason to believe most of what he sayd is even logical.

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Dolph Lundgren > Chuck Norris. Just sayin'

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xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

The Expendables 2 is coming out soon, can't wait to see it - they're adding in Chuck Norris and Jean Claude van Damme! (yes I am a girl btw)


Ooooh it's coming out soon? *gets excited* the trailer makes it look like Bruce Willis may be in it more this time :wub:
Not actually a huge fan of Chuck Norris, I think he's pretty dreadful lol, but it's cool he is in it.


dont mess with chuck he would have roundhouse kicked harby back to dark space whatyacallit .................... infact if chuck had wrote the ending it would have been epic 1 million coffees for him win, instead of............. well what we got Image IPB

edit fixed a bit

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Your kidding right?! :o DUDE THAT WOULD BE SO WICKED!!!! :devil::devil: More huge exsplosions! SWEETNESS!

I find the movie invalid, with chuck norris in the movie, there can be no storyline, Chuck is like starchild, he does everything for you. Edit: Exept Chuck Norris is cool.


and dont forget superman wears chuck noris pyjamers

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toffeetrooper wrote...

dont mess with chuck he would have roundhouse kicked harby back to dark space whatyacallit .................... infact if chuck had wrote the ending it would have been epic 1 million coffees for him win, instead of............. well what we got Image IPB

edit fixed a bit


Would never dream of messing with him, just don't think his acting is up to snuff is all lol.
Though I will embarassingly admit to loving his TV Show Walker: Texas Ranger

*hides behind something*

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Oh yes -



manly little girl yells: "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"


van dam???

terminator?

chuck fuc908&(* norris?

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!/<3<3<3

But they missed one.

We all know the movie is missing two characters.


Image IPB



youknow a movie with these two would make the big rip seem like an afternoon meal.

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Spartas Husky wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Oh yes -



manly little girl yells: "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"


van dam???

terminator?

chuck fuc908&(* norris?

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!/<3<3<3

But they missed one.

We all know the movie is missing two characters.


*image snip

youknow a movie with these two would make the big rip seem like an afternoon meal.



ya but they got done over by a kid in a hoody Image IPB

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toffeetrooper wrote...

*snip*
ya but they got done over by a kid in a hoody Image IPB

Do you think that's what Bruce Willis needs help with??? That being the case maybe we need to take the Expendables and mix in some Avengers action to kick him back to dark space!

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toffeetrooper wrote...

ya but they got done over by a kid in a hoody Image IPB


^^THIS^^ *sigh*

sidenote - forgot how much I hate planet scanning in ME2 <_<

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Oh yes -


*shaking with excitment................................. sudenly stops*  what if bioware made the trailerImage IPB 

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xcomcmdr wrote...

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

 Jessica just answered me back about why Geth die if they aren't Reaper tech

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/189165315916177411


*grins* I told ya star child is lieing ;)  and this is actually really good to add in for indoctrinate theory ;)

That's hope. But I wonder why we don't see EDI coming out of the Normandy too.

Yes she has reaper code. But space magic lazors can inspect code ? :huh:



This laser's nickname is Norton Antivirus or what ?


Ah but people with high enough EMS have seen EDI come out of the ship on Destroy - BW have confirmed its not a bug....so....

As I've said - Star child is lieing piece of ;)

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Phoenix NL wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

*snip*
ya but they got done over by a kid in a hoody Image IPB

Do you think that's what Bruce Willis needs help with??? That being the case maybe we need to take the Expendables and mix in some Avengers action to kick him back to dark space!



sounds good to me

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So, for those of you who are having the facecode import issue (like me), it looks like the new patch didn't fix that at all.. *facepalm* It just removed the error people were getting when importing, but the face still doesn't import properly.