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Ok question for everyone. Bearing in mind that realistically the Extended Cut dlc will not cut out the Star Brat or change that part of the ending very much if at all, what would the EC dlc need to provide to make you happy with it?

Tali.....house......Rannoch=happy ;)
lol im sure others will post things that im in agreement with though for what would make me happy also:lol:

So you would be happy just with that kind of closure? Would you expect / want anymore gameplay etc?

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oh and ive accepted that the extended cut will keep star brat and all that which is why i PM'd Chris and Jessica about my concern with the flashbacks

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Major Swift wrote...

oh and ive accepted that the extended cut will keep star brat and all that which is why i PM'd Chris and Jessica about my concern with the flashbacks

What's your concern about the flashbacks?

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Ok question for everyone. Bearing in mind that realistically the Extended Cut dlc will not cut out the Star Brat or change that part of the ending very much if at all, what would the EC dlc need to provide to make you happy with it?

Tali.....house......Rannoch=happy ;)
lol im sure others will post things that im in agreement with though for what would make me happy also:lol:

So you would be happy just with that kind of closure? Would you expect / want anymore gameplay etc?

lol of course id like/expect some gameplay etc in addition to what ive said, i merely jest :lol: i want some afterwards gameplay/maybe even just choosing dialogue for when i live after the pretty red beam ending, some possible "hey starbrat, take a look at your logic for a second" dialogue and a bit of other things

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Ok question for everyone. Bearing in mind that realistically the Extended Cut dlc will not cut out the Star Brat or change that part of the ending very much if at all, what would the EC dlc need to provide to make you happy with it?


One, maybe two colors more ? :whistle:

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Phoenix NL wrote...

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oh and ive accepted that the extended cut will keep star brat and all that which is why i PM'd Chris and Jessica about my concern with the flashbacks

What's your concern about the flashbacks?

automatic default to Liara if you choose someone in ME2, I PM'd them asking if when the extended cut comes around they could add in flashbacks for ME2 LI's/add them in at some point since if your loyal to any of the ME1 LI's you see them, minor thing but it stood out

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So BW has told us that it'd be hard to get the best possible endings, but they always let us do with this game something that was unprecedented: if we made the right decisions, we could get the outcome we want. Huge spoilers ahead, you've been warned:









Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose, regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.


For me the Ending is Broken, not becous it is bitter sweet. It is mutch bigger then that.
There is so many things done wrong IMO whit the ending.
Like:
Loosing controle of dialog
Loosing Character Focus
Loosing the genre
Changing the central conflict.
and loosing Narritive Coherence.
Loosing what Casey H sayed befour the game that there where massevily endings, and that is simply not true.

It is like its a different team writing the ending, and they really dont know the tech parts of it.

That what i think.


Well there a some other nickpick things about the game that I could complain about but I can live with those but the end is just Brooken.

Modifié par MoZedK, 10 avril 2012 - 08:13 .


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CaptnObvious wrote...
One, maybe two colors more ? :whistle:

Rainbow ending! mix and match colors! ;)

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Major Swift wrote...

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One, maybe two colors more ? :whistle:

Rainbow ending! mix and match colors! ;)

You guys are so demanding lol

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CaptnObvious wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Ok question for everyone. Bearing in mind that realistically the Extended Cut dlc will not cut out the Star Brat or change that part of the ending very much if at all, what would the EC dlc need to provide to make you happy with it?


One, maybe two colors more ? :whistle:


It won't satisfy me. I had no problems with ME3 until I got to those last five minutes of the game. If that kid wasn't there I would hapily be playing ME3 right now.

Hell they could give me the option to just sit down next to anderson and put the explosion cinematic after "Best seats in the house" and I'd hapilly play ME3 again.

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This story has yet to receive attention from news leaders. I just emailed at Huffington Post about the movement concerning issues with the ending.

But thats just one person.

If you folks could possibly email them aswell, it would help spur Bioware to address our problems. The email address is below.

scoop@huffingtonpost.com

Make your email as short or as long as you want. As long as you send it, it greatly increases the chance of receiving the noteriety that Mass Effect deserves,

Thank you, and spread the word.

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CaptnObvious wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Ok question for everyone. Bearing in mind that realistically the Extended Cut dlc will not cut out the Star Brat or change that part of the ending very much if at all, what would the EC dlc need to provide to make you happy with it?


One, maybe two colors more ? :whistle:


It won't satisfy me. I had no problems with ME3 until I got to those last five minutes of the game. If that kid wasn't there I would hapily be playing ME3 right now.

Hell they could give me the option to just sit down next to anderson and put the explosion cinematic after "Best seats in the house" and I'd hapilly play ME3 again.

True it was just so jarring and out of whack with the rest of the game. I do still want answers as to why Joker was running away, what happens to my allies and what happens to my squadmates.

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Whatever Bioware does in the "Extended Cut" DLC, I hope it doesn't have something like Shepard's LI reminiscing in an incredibly cheesy way. Actually, a "happily ever after" ending with Shepard and LI would have been even worse for me than the ending we got.

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someguy1231 wrote...

Whatever Bioware does in the "Extended Cut" DLC, I hope it doesn't have something like Shepard's LI reminiscing in an incredibly cheesy way. Actually, a "happily ever after" ending with Shepard and LI would be even worse for me than the ending we got.

I want the option for a "happily ever after" ending, if you fulfill certain requirements. But then I think there should have been a range of endings dependant on your EMS rating and choices in the game.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

someguy1231 wrote...

Whatever Bioware does in the "Extended Cut" DLC, I hope it doesn't have something like Shepard's LI reminiscing in an incredibly cheesy way. Actually, a "happily ever after" ending with Shepard and LI would be even worse for me than the ending we got.

I want the option for a "happily ever after" ending, if you fulfill certain requirements. But then I think there should have been a range of endings dependant on your EMS rating and choices in the game.

exactly, have it be an option, hell the reapers were suppose to be able to win according to one of those pre-release quotes

Modifié par Major Swift, 10 avril 2012 - 08:29 .


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lmao, someone sent me this a few minutes ago, was really funny :lol:

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JDMiller5150 wrote...

This story has yet to receive attention from news leaders. I just emailed at Huffington Post about the movement concerning issues with the ending.

But thats just one person.

If you folks could possibly email them aswell, it would help spur Bioware to address our problems. The email address is below.

scoop@huffingtonpost.com

Make your email as short or as long as you want. As long as you send it, it greatly increases the chance of receiving the noteriety that Mass Effect deserves,

Thank you, and spread the word.


On it Join in people

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Phoenix NL wrote...

someguy1231 wrote...

Whatever Bioware does in the "Extended Cut" DLC, I hope it doesn't have something like Shepard's LI reminiscing in an incredibly cheesy way. Actually, a "happily ever after" ending with Shepard and LI would be even worse for me than the ending we got.

I want the option for a "happily ever after" ending, if you fulfill certain requirements. But then I think there should have been a range of endings dependant on your EMS rating and choices in the game.


A "happily ever after" ending wouldn't work for a game like ME3. Before you can even do anything in the game, the Reapers have already caused massive destruction all over the galaxy. Trying to portray a "happily ever after" ending in a situation like that would destroy my suspension of disbelief. Hell, the fact you can even have a romance at all while the Reapers are invading pretty much already did. I'd hate to tell the survivors of some Reaper attack that I couldn't save them cause I was too busy banging my space waifu.

Besides, many in the mainstream media have already dismissed us as a bunch of whiners who just want a sunshine-and-butterflies Disney-esque ending. The last thing we should be doing is adding fuel to that stereotype.

Modifié par someguy1231, 10 avril 2012 - 08:36 .


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Bioware is like the big brother who gave me an old lego set.  I enjoyed lego so I sat and I built.  I could build the way I wanted and play the way I wanted, I loved it.  So i built to my hearts content, after hours and hours I was almost about to finish, just a couple more pieces situated and I would be done. I would bask in my artistic choices and get to apprectiate the way I put everything together. When in comes my big brother with 3 pairs of shoes, and god bless his heart, he let me decide which colour his shoes would be as he kicked the lego set to pieces.

 At first I cried, shocked that he would do this.  How could he, he gave me this opportuniy why would he do such a thing.  So I asked him and in his developing mind he could not explain the point behind why he did what he did, he just used the word "bittersweet" and hoped I would fill in the rest.  When that didin't happen he said now i'm not going to change anything, what's done is done, but just for you, how about I bring some of my other pieces in here and kick the **** outta them too.

to be continued...

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i respect your opinion on the matter and actually understand your point of view there with how they've already destroyed alot of the major homeworlds all the loss of life and such is pretty bad, even with all that loss of life theres no reason there shouldn't at least be the option though, even if really hard to achieve

"I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are.
It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really
mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you
didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How
could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened?
But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness
must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine
out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant
something, even if you were too small to understand why." -Sam, LoTR: The Two Towers
edit: and basically what Phoenix said below this

Modifié par Major Swift, 10 avril 2012 - 08:44 .


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someguy1231 wrote...

A "happily ever after" ending wouldn't work for a game like ME3. Before you can even do anything in the game, the Reapers have already caused massive destruction all over the galaxy. Trying to portray a "happily ever after" ending in a situation like that would destroy my suspension of disbelief. Hell, the fact you can even have a romance at all while the Reapers are invading pretty much already did. I'd hate to tell the citizens of London that I couldn't save them cause I was too busy banging my space waifu.

Besides, many in the mainstream media have already dismissed us as a bunch of whiners who just want a sunshine-and-butterflies Disney-esque ending. The last thing we should be doing is adding fuel to that stereotype.

This where we'll have to agree to disagree. I find it perfectly plausible that faced with almost insurmountable odds and a great likelihood of death having an intimate relationship might reinforce what you're fighting for or reaffirm life. I'm not saying that Shepard and their LI should skip off into the sunset because the Reapers have caused mass devastation, but part of it is that I think after everything that Shepard has been through and with the war over there should be the possibility of having that hope and future with their LI. But again, that should have just been one of the options because it wouldn't be the ending that everyone would choose.

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Good Morning all.

@Phoenix NL
They have to deliver what they promised - "not just ending a b c" before that I won't be happy.
And maybe a unrealistic happy ending. (I'm a sucker for those because most of the time real life is just too gray anyways) But it won't be a make or break for me. In that regards I respect their artistic vision. (Yes I said it)

I mean especially in a game like mass effect where you're supposed to choose the ending you want. I don't see anything wrong with a happy ending if they decide to introduce one. If people don't want one just don't choose it.

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Major Swift wrote...

i respect your opinion on the matter and actually understand your point of view there with how they've already destroyed alot of the major homeworlds all the loss of life and such is pretty bad, even with all that loss of life theres no reason there shouldn't at least be the option though, even if really hard to achieve

"I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are.
It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really
mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you
didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How
could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened?
But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness
must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine
out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant
something, even if you were too small to understand why." -Sam, LoTR: The Two Towers

Exactly right, there will be hope because the war is over and the rebuilding would begin.

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Mokiki wrote...

Good Morning all.

@Phoenix NL
They have to deliver what they promised - "not just ending a b c" before that I won't be happy.
And maybe a unrealistic happy ending. (I'm a sucker for those because most of the time real life is just too gray anyways) But it won't be a make or break for me. In that regards I respect their artistic vision. (Yes I said it)

Good morning! I agree that they should have delivered all the things that they promised but with things as they stand I don't think they can anymore. Who knows they could blow us away with the dlc but I'll go in with low expectations and hope to be pleasantly surprised.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Good morning! I agree that they should have delivered all the things that they promised but with things as they stand I don't think they can anymore. Who knows they could blow us away with the dlc but I'll go in with low expectations and hope to be pleasantly surprised.


Well that's the only thing we can do and hope for. While voicing our opinions in a civilised manner