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[ld1449]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Group question - Ignoring the endings and the crucible etc - how would you have ended the series. What would have been your way of detroying all the Reapers?

The problem is in ME3 they made the reapers too numerous to take down. Pre-ME3 I suspected the reaper numbers to be in the thousands. ME3 however, puts reaper numbers in the tens or hundreds of thousands.

Based off of the description of vigil on Ilos, pertaining to the events of the prothean cycle the reapers hit the citadel first, using it to deactivate every relay, cutting off every system from the other. Then they systematically went planet by plannet, system by system to wipe out the protheans.

I figured every cut off system was single handedly one at a time facing the full might of a thousand strong (at least) reaper ships at most. Not that every system was under siege all at once.

So, going with these kind of numbers, Shepard uniting every race in the galaxy to fight would have the reapers outnumbered 10 ships to 1 and would have been able to feasibly tackle them in one huge battle (Losses would be unbelievably heavy.) But hopefully the full might of the galaxy would make it impossible for the reapers to sustain a galactic invasion. Reaper's numbers are finite, whereas organics can always get our numbers back in a matter of a few years.

If you cut down a thousand reapers by half that is a significant chunk of reaper forces that they're not going to be able to replace any time soon while the races build at least a hundred more ships ect ect.

So yea, the math in ME3 made that completely non viable since the reapers were in the hundreds of thousands. They had the biggest fleet in the galaxy and the most firepower as opposed to the most firepower but the smaller fleet.

[TamiBx]

chmarr wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

@Chmarr, according to Weekes and someone else (i forget who said it) the relays only overloaded/ruptured/didnt go supernova like in Arrival

if they over loaded then wouldent have exploded, the cut scenes clearly show exploding relays.

but like i said there changing the core lore to suit there own needs, there screwing it up even more

The blue ending doesn't have a crucible beam going on, and it doesn't really show an explosion either, just breaking apart...

[Jere85]

TamiBx wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

seems like divide and conquer has been put in place. Alot of retakers bashing eachother instead of having a common goal. well played.... well played. But i doubt it will work in the long run.

Wait, what? 
And good morning everyone~

Good morning , and nothing specific really, but before PAX it was mostly all of us holding the line, now there seem to be alot of trashtalk, against us for holding the line even with the extended cut. Or is it just me? I might be wrong, i havent been here 24/7 the last 3 days now.

[Major Swift]

TamiBx wrote...


The blue ending doesn't have a crucible beam going on, and it doesn't really show an explosion either, just breaking apart...

i wouldn't say breaking apart either but thats just my perspective of watching it, id say the release of energy/depletion of energy in the relay did some damage to the exterior, the relay itself remaining intact

[Ohpus]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Ohpus wrote...

In the Toronto Star today the Toronto Maple Leafs took out a full page ad to apologize for dropping the end of the current season.

That begs the question. What makes Bioware an exception for the bad ME3 endings?

They didn't use the excuse of artistic integrity??

I've only lived in Toronto for around 10 years. But the Leafs don't seem to have any integrity to speak of, artistic or otherwise.

Now if this happened in Montreal there would be rioting and the top level of management for the team would be immediately fire and half the team traded. Of course you could explain that as being a bad team impacts beer sales and the Canadians were owned by Molsons last I checked. This could also explain the rioting.

[TamiBx]

Jere85 wrote...

Good morning , and nothing specific really, but before PAX it was mostly all of us holding the line, now there seem to be alot of trashtalk, against us for holding the line even with the extended cut. Or is it just me? I might be wrong, i havent been here 24/7 the last 3 days now.

Well, I don't get out much and adventure in the BSN world, so I have no idea what's going on outside of this thread (except for the Kaidan thread and now the face import issue) 


Honestly, I wouldn't worry. This is a thread to talk about how we didn't get the ending we wanted, and we still haven't, so...

[Major Swift]

Jere85 wrote...
Good morning , and nothing specific really, but before PAX it was mostly all of us holding the line, now there seem to be alot of trashtalk, against us for holding the line even with the extended cut. Or is it just me? I might be wrong, i havent been here 24/7 the last 3 days now.

i'd say not recently, but you are correct, larger than usual spottings of under bridge folk appeared after the extended ending dlc

[DJBare]

TamiBx wrote...

Jere85 wrote...
seems like divide and conquer has been put in place. Alot of retakers bashing eachother instead of having a common goal. well played.... well played. But i doubt it will work in the long run.

Wait, what? 
And good morning everyone~

Morning TamiBx, we had a bit of a civil war going on within the Retake movement, but things are slowly being settled now.

Modifié par DJBare, 10 avril 2012 - 01:55 .

[AgentStark]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Group question - Ignoring the endings and the crucible etc - how would you have ended the series. What would have been your way of detroying all the Reapers?

Brute force and badassery. Take out Harbringer and the other Reapers begin to panic.

[AgentStark]

Major Swift wrote...

TamiBx wrote...


The blue ending doesn't have a crucible beam going on, and it doesn't really show an explosion either, just breaking apart...

i wouldn't say breaking apart either but thats just my perspective of watching it, id say the release of energy/depletion of energy in the relay did some damage to the exterior, the relay itself remaining intact

You mean like an emp. It temporarily disables it.

[Ohpus]

Atrocity wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

Think I am going a little mad with being here. Last night I dreamt that this forum was a physical community, with rooms and corridors and people there in person. <_<

Does this mean I have to put some clothes on?

There would probably be a mixed reaction to that, but I digress.

[Spartas Husky]

Wth happended to the ending boss. Didn't they say "there wont be one"?

wth you think the reaper destroyers at rannoch were?

Wth was defending the thanix missiles was?

Wth was kai Leng...

WHERE IS HARBINGER. I wana break one of his legs and beat him to death with it.

[badd88]

#!

Check out this video, guys, if you haven't seen it yet.

Modifié par badd88, 10 avril 2012 - 02:01 .

[evisneffo]

Atrocity wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Does this mean I have to put some clothes on?

The universe is in danger ! there's no time for pants

Good to know. Besides, my underwear looks good 

Hahahahahahahha Yeah don't worry, I can wait for some DLC to explain why you, er, aren't wearing pants, so at least there will be clarity in the end!

TamiBx wrote...

Wait, what? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


And good morning everyone~

Good-morning! The idea of a billboard campaign was being thrown around heavily, but it appears to have been suspended for the timebeing.

[Major Swift]

AgentStark wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

TamiBx wrote...


The blue ending doesn't have a crucible beam going on, and it doesn't really show an explosion either, just breaking apart...

i wouldn't say breaking apart either but thats just my perspective of watching it, id say the release of energy/depletion of energy in the relay did some damage to the exterior, the relay itself remaining intact

You mean like an emp. It temporarily disables it.

exactly like that

[TamiBx]

DJBare wrote...

Morning TamiBx, we had a bit of a civil war going on within the Retake movement, but things are slowly being settled now.

Oooh. I see. Everyone needs to be friends with everyone 

Also, I don't understand why people are so worried about whether we are here or not. BSN existed way before ME3, you know. Not like it was only made to "retake ME3" and that we should just abandon it after being promised something (note: promised. We haven't gotten anything yet)

[Tyion133]

Ohpus wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

Think I am going a little mad with being here. Last night I dreamt that this forum was a physical community, with rooms and corridors and people there in person. <_<

Does this mean I have to put some clothes on?

There would probably be a mixed reaction to that, but I digress.

As I stated before... The Universe is in danger ! There's no time for pants.

[TamiBx]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Wth happended to the ending boss. Didn't they say "there wont be one"?

wth you think the reaper destroyers at rannoch were?

Wth was defending the thanix missiles was?

Wth was kai Leng...

WHERE IS HARBINGER. I wana break one of his legs and beat him to death with it.

Dude, one question at a time! 
Jeez. There is only so much we can type.

The answer are:

Boss battle: too mainstream, so there won't be one
All the other questions: Space Magic 

[Jere85]

badd88 wrote...

#!

Check out this video, guys, if you haven't seen it yet.

Nice, havent seen that one yet

[Atrocity]

evisneffo wrote...

Hahahahahahahha Yeah don't worry, I can wait for some DLC to explain why you, er, aren't wearing pants, so at least there will be clarity in the end!

I can give you the slide-show, but I'm not sure whether you'll like the clarification I'll give 
(it's all Hemingway's fault. no really, it is.)

[Tyion133]

Atrocity wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

Hahahahahahahha Yeah don't worry, I can wait for some DLC to explain why you, er, aren't wearing pants, so at least there will be clarity in the end!

I can give you the slide-show, but I'm not sure whether you'll like the clarification I'll give 
(it's all Hemingway's fault. no really, it is.)

Hmm... I blame Space Magic

[chmarr]

TamiBx wrote...


The blue ending doesn't have a crucible beam going on, and it doesn't really show an explosion either, just breaking apart...

watch this full screen, the relay does explode as you parts of it flying outwards after it shoots the pulse, and as it spins faster you can see parts of the structure exploding before the pulse goes off and when it does shoot the pulse you see the long end break apart and the main relay section explodes.

no matter the ending the relays are destroyed and they do all explode, the one you showed had a lot of blank spots for the control section either for timing or just bad editing.
 
but the fact stays that when a mass relay explodes it does wipe out entire solar systems killing everything in that solar system and to say "there just damaged" is wrong if they were damaged then they wouldent explode like they do.

BUT if bioware says the control damages the relays then they are REMOVING more of our choices BUT then again it also reinforces the indoc theory

[Ohpus]

Tyion133 wrote...

Ohpus wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Does this mean I have to put some clothes on?

There would probably be a mixed reaction to that, but I digress.

As I stated before... The Universe is in danger ! There's no time for pants.

It won't help anyone if your rod and tackle get caught in heavy machinery.

Garrus: Dammit, Sheppard. I just got that gun calibrated.


However, I would suggest that if people went into battle naked there would be a lot more peace talks.

[Mokiki]

Ohpus wrote...
However, I would suggest that if people went into battle naked there would be a lot more peace talks.

So Quarians = Suicide squad?

[TamiBx]

chmarr wrote...



watch this full screen, the relay does explode as you parts of it flying outwards after it shoots the pulse, and as it spins faster you can see parts of the structure exploding before the pulse goes off and when it does shoot the pulse you see the long end break apart and the main relay section explodes.

no matter the ending the relays are destroyed and they do all explode, the one you showed had a lot of blank spots for the control section either for timing or just bad editing.
 
but the fact stays that when a mass relay explodes it does wipe out entire solar systems killing everything in that solar system and to say "there just damaged" is wrong if they were damaged then they wouldent explode like they do.

BUT if bioware says the control damages the relays then they are REMOVING more of our choices BUT then again it also reinforces the indoc theory

No no no, it doesn't have that one little scene showing the explosion from the mass relay coming to you (it goes from shooting to affecting other relays) and the crucible itself does not fire a beam. Those are the differences.

Btw, does anyone else notice little catalyst's happy face(or what you can assume is his face) when she chooses anything but destroy? He looks...pleased.