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[Capeo]

DaftArbiter wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...
Apparently the Normandy crashed on a formed colony, the SA guy said the scene with the child comes up even if everyone on the Normandy is dead, that means there is an active colony there already (and no ned for incest)...

And since most colonies had no problems having aliens living together, dextro food probably wont be a problem...

But im sure that's not enough to stop the ****ing, is it?

What evidence suggests there's a formed colony already?

Occam's Razor.

If the Normandy crashes on an otherwise empty planet and there's no survivors, how can it be populated in the future?

The hatch opening and nobody coming out doesn't mean everyone is dead.  The hatch doesn't open by itself.  There is already and everbody dies ending with the Normandy blowing up.  Why have a vid of them getting away only to kill them a second later?  I think the hatch just opening, which is the worst variation, is akin to the "dead" Shep suddenly breathing ending.  It's a sign of life but you get no resolution.  If you do better you get to see Joker and two others come out.  If you do the best, then you get Joker (who apparently seems happy from what Xio said) and EDI.  

I'm not saying we're 100% sure they planet doesn't have a colony already BTW.  I'm just saying the scene with the hatch doesn't imply it.

Modifié par Capeo, 02 mars 2012 - 06:49 .

[Subject One]

ReluctantMind wrote...

I still find it very difficult to believe that Bioware would only include crap endings to the ME franchise. There have been multiple discussions of how they pay attention to their fans and to these boards. While there are some who were rooting for negative endings, it seems many more were wanting a chance to ride off into the sunset with their LI. It would take quite a bit of time to count the number of posts from Liara fans quoting their desire for "marriage and a bunch of blue babies" or the Tali fan's quoting the "build her a house on the homeworld" line. If Bioware is paying any attention at all they would realize that having only negative endings would generate a lot of anger, which is hardly a good business model.

Yeah, the endings are abslolutely anti-commercial. And I think I will love them

[Capeo]

Double post.  Oops.

Modifié par Capeo, 02 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[Unit-Alpha]

J/k lol, still not happening. Just trying to save myself some time if it turns out to be good, but it's not worth the hassle.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[jlb524]

Kanmuru wrote...

The guy at SA said: 

 That's because - as far as I know - there's no confirmation that the planet the Normandy crashes on and the planet that Stargazer is on is one in the same. In fact, considering the epilogue scene fires regardless of the ending you get (even the one that implies the Normandy crew is dead), there's little proof that the Normandy crew is permanently stranded or that they form an incestuous colony.

Considering the overall tone of the ending, I'd say it's unlikely they are stranded or that the ending is supposed to be considered 'sad'. Everyone's smiling and poo poo and looking at the sunrise, not wailing helplessly because they believe they're trapped forever. 

Nothing about a 'formed colony' on the planet where they land.

[XX55XX]

albertalad wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

albertalad wrote...

For many, and I'm with them all the way, this in not only a story about Reapers - this is a love story of our choice which is absolutely necessary to unlock the passion of the man (Sheppard) in order to see beyond himself and fight for his causes and his crew. It is what we all try to accomplish in real life which strikes us all when we live here in the real world - we too find that love makes us all better individuals that any of imagined we could become. It gives us a reason to live and struggle in our own lives.

Sheppard is that man or that woman we see in ourselves - that is why we become connected to L1s and to our crew. THEY, like our friends in life, are all with us on our journey during life and we become inner-connected to the other. Ask any Marine or serving soldier, sailor, or airforce personnel and they will tell you in no uncertain terms THEY served with BROTHERS in arms and became family. So NO, BW, it isn't good enough to see the Normandy marooned. NO BW it isn't good enough Sheppard might live while his crew and love are marooned on some planet as the end. I don't know this Sheppard, never met him, and never hope to do so. THAT alone renders everything dumb beyond words, beyond understanding, beyond common sense of MY Sheppard I created and I played. THAT is not good enough at all! I do not accept that ending nor will I! Its as simple as THAT!

If you feel that strongly about fictional characters without realizing it, you need to take a step back and realize that this is all fiction. When you finish ME3 on Wednesday night and go to bed, there's nothing but spoiled coffee and a stack of work on your "in" tray at the office the next day. 

And serving in the army isn't quite like playing a video game where you are a special forces character. In the army, you meet real people. In a video game, you meet people that don't exist. 

I never told YOU what or how to think - that's your call. Don't assume you can tell me how to think for what I PAID FOR.

Listen. You don't own ME. BioWare does. I think you are taking this a bit too seriously. Spend that $60 on gas for your car or something if you don't like the endings that much. 

Write your own fanfic if you hate the ending that much - but even though I have a few reservations with the ending myself, my only complaint is that the endings do not really take into account the choices made, nor do they offer the player a satisfactory level of control. I don't hate the endings because I didn't get to ride off into the sunset with my LI.

[wolf99000]

whats this talk about a special New Game+ ending is that anything that can fix this whole mess for us

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

ReluctantMind wrote...

I still find it very difficult to believe that Bioware would only include crap endings to the ME franchise. There have been multiple discussions of how they pay attention to their fans and to these boards. While there are some who were rooting for negative endings, it seems many more were wanting a chance to ride off into the sunset with their LI. It would take quite a bit of time to count the number of posts from Liara fans quoting their desire for "marriage and a bunch of blue babies" or the Tali fan's quoting the "build her a house on the homeworld" line. If Bioware is paying any attention at all they would realize that having only negative endings would generate a lot of anger, which is hardly a good business model.

Exactly, give these current damn endings to people who joined in on the third one. At least reward people who stuck with them since the begining or at least part 2.

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 02 mars 2012 - 06:52 .

[wright1978]

Kanmuru wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Radahldo wrote...

The SA guy said the old man and child couldn't have been a descendents of the Normandy crew since that part triggers irregardless of the ending. He didnt say that they landed on a formed colony.

Normandy hatch always opens. Ergo some of the crew survive even if your squaddies don't. They just don't show some random redshirt climbing out  that's all.

the guy who PLAYED THE ****ING GAME said it looked like they were all dead...

Not sure he did say that. Most of the evidence suggests it is the sameworld, plus the hatch opening which could only happen if there was someone inside to open it. Haven't seen any evidence to suggest dead bodies being littered around.

[Radahldo]

That's funny. What the SA guy says actually precludes your theory to an extent, kanmuru

[XX55XX]

Oh, I know, I just want to give Bioware one final chance. If they fail, I return the game and lose nothing, then pick it up for $15 in a couple of months. If not, then I'll have saved myself the hassle of trying to find a PC copy at Gamestop.

Lol, despite all of the disappointment, you still want to play this game. That's why boycotts never work - the fans complain and complain - yet they eat it all up anyways, without heeding to the principles called for by a boycott.

Just wait. It will be easier on your credit card statement.

Modifié par XX55XX, 02 mars 2012 - 06:53 .

[Capeo]

Kanmuru wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Radahldo wrote...

The SA guy said the old man and child couldn't have been a descendents of the Normandy crew since that part triggers irregardless of the ending. He didnt say that they landed on a formed colony.

Normandy hatch always opens. Ergo some of the crew survive even if your squaddies don't. They just don't show some random redshirt climbing out  that's all.

the guy who PLAYED THE ****ING GAME said it looked like they were all dead...

Tank said the hatch opens but nobody comes out.  You don't see bodies.  Doors don't open by themselves though.

Also, the epiologue playing no matter what might not even be right at this point given that flashbacks aren't right either and only show Liara no matter what you do.  Hard to tell really.

[Unit-Alpha]

XX55XX wrote...

Oh, I know, I
just want to give Bioware one final chance. If they fail, I return the
game and lose nothing, then pick it up for $15 in a couple of months. If
not, then I'll have saved myself the hassle of trying to find a PC copy
at Gamestop.

Lol, despite all of the
disappointment, you still want to play this game. That's why boycotts
never work - the fans complain and complain - yet they eat it all up
anyways, without heeding to the principles called for by a boycott.

Just wait. It will be easier on your credit card statement.

Eh, fair enough, I'll wait. I just don't care one way or another now. It was mostly about time savings anyway; I'll have 5 days before I go back to college to find a copy if it's good.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 02 mars 2012 - 06:55 .

[mulder1199]

Capeo wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Radahldo wrote...

The SA guy said the old man and child couldn't have been a descendents of the Normandy crew since that part triggers irregardless of the ending. He didnt say that they landed on a formed colony.

Normandy hatch always opens. Ergo some of the crew survive even if your squaddies don't. They just don't show some random redshirt climbing out  that's all.

the guy who PLAYED THE ****ING GAME said it looked like they were all dead...

Tank said the hatch opens but nobody comes out.  You don't see bodies.  Doors don't open by themselves though.

Also, the epiologue playing no matter what might not even be right at this point given that flashbacks aren't right either and only show Liara no matter what you do.  Hard to tell really.

yes the patch will fix the LI thing, and perhaps something with an ending....it's 265mb somebody said that is big...

[XX55XX]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Oh, I know, I just want to give Bioware one final chance. If they fail, I return the game and lose nothing, then pick it up for $15 in a couple of months. If not, then I'll have saved myself the hassle of trying to find a PC copy at Gamestop.

Lol, despite all of the disappointment, you still want to play this game. That's why boycotts never work - the fans complain and complain - yet they eat it all up anyways, without heeding to the principles called for by a boycott.

Did you miss the part where I said I would return it? And that I'm still not getting it day 1. I'm 100% honest to God serious. I really don't need to justify myself to you.

Fair enough. But why bother posting here, then? There must be better things to dedicate your energy to than posting on the forums of a company that has disappointed you. 

[Unit-Alpha]

XX55XX wrote...

I changed my post.

[Weltenschlange]

mulder1199 wrote...

GB: What’s your own postmortem at this point? Your feelings on how it turned out.

CH: You know, I think we had a lot of ambitious goals for the whole series, and for Mass Effect 3 itself. I’m just really impressed with how the team came through, and I think for fans, they’re going to get all the things they’re looking for out of the experience. I think there’s a lot of excitement and a lot of anxiety. Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.

[...]

http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

Huh...

[webhead921]

jlb524 wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

Occam's Razor.

If the Normandy crashes on an otherwise empty planet and there's no survivors, how can it be populated in the future?

But...it might not be the same planet that's shown in the epilogue.

The video showing the old man and child i guess looks very similar to the planet the normandy landed on.  So I guess the ending can be interpreted in 2 ways:

1.  The planet in the epiloge is not the same as the one the normandy crahsed on.  We don't know what happened to the Normandy, but based on the description of the tone of the ending, it seems that they are not screwed.  This is left open to interpretation

2.  The planet in the epilogue is the same, because they background when they show the old man standing there with the child is similar.  This suggests that the Normandy landed on an already populated planet.  Why?  Because the epilogue plays even if everyone on the normandy died.

[XX55XX]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I changed my post.

That's cool. Maybe you should take a break from BioWare in general. I took a sabbatical from these forums a year ago for six months and it helped me get over the disappointment of DA2. At least I know that ME3 won't be nearly as disappointing. 

[Unit-Alpha]

XX55XX wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I changed my post.

That's cool. Maybe you should take a break from BioWare in general. I took a sabbatical from these forums a year ago for six months and it helped me get over the disappointment of DA2. At least I know that ME3 won't be nearly as disappointing. 

I did, I've been gone since LotSB. And I really hope not.

[Weltenschlange]

Heathen Pride wrote...

Hahaha, good one.

Now that's a classy leather jacket.

[albertalad]

XX55XX wrote...

albertalad wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

albertalad wrote...

For many, and I'm with them all the way, this in not only a story about Reapers - this is a love story of our choice which is absolutely necessary to unlock the passion of the man (Sheppard) in order to see beyond himself and fight for his causes and his crew. It is what we all try to accomplish in real life which strikes us all when we live here in the real world - we too find that love makes us all better individuals that any of imagined we could become. It gives us a reason to live and struggle in our own lives.

Sheppard is that man or that woman we see in ourselves - that is why we become connected to L1s and to our crew. THEY, like our friends in life, are all with us on our journey during life and we become inner-connected to the other. Ask any Marine or serving soldier, sailor, or airforce personnel and they will tell you in no uncertain terms THEY served with BROTHERS in arms and became family. So NO, BW, it isn't good enough to see the Normandy marooned. NO BW it isn't good enough Sheppard might live while his crew and love are marooned on some planet as the end. I don't know this Sheppard, never met him, and never hope to do so. THAT alone renders everything dumb beyond words, beyond understanding, beyond common sense of MY Sheppard I created and I played. THAT is not good enough at all! I do not accept that ending nor will I! Its as simple as THAT!

If you feel that strongly about fictional characters without realizing it, you need to take a step back and realize that this is all fiction. When you finish ME3 on Wednesday night and go to bed, there's nothing but spoiled coffee and a stack of work on your "in" tray at the office the next day. 

And serving in the army isn't quite like playing a video game where you are a special forces character. In the army, you meet real people. In a video game, you meet people that don't exist. 

I never told YOU what or how to think - that's your call. Don't assume you can tell me how to think for what I PAID FOR.

Listen. You don't own ME. BioWare does. I think you are taking this a bit too seriously. Spend that $60 on gas for your car or something if you don't like the endings that much. 

Write your own fanfic if you hate the ending that much - but even though I have a few reservations with the ending myself, my only complaint is that the endings do not really take into account the choices made, nor do they offer the player a satisfactory level of control. I don't hate the endings because I didn't get to ride off into the sunset with my LI.

You see your own argument is exactly what I wrote? YOUR choice throughout the series was suppose to matter - that was encourage and pushed by BW themselves through TWO games. The L1s were also as I wrote an important part of this story as well - BW put them there and gave us the videos themselves. These are also our choice from ME1 to 3 - as were how we palyed and the choices we made - all encouraged by BW themselves. Even marketing for ME3 continued this approach by BW themselves - yet in what we know of the leaks - our choices did NOT matter in the slightest. ALL our choice. So to that I totally agree with you and I was only attempting to say the same using other methods.

[Armass81]

"I think we’ve done everything we wanted to do with the series, and that people are going to get what they want out of Mass Effect 3."

Not according to this thread, Casey.

[XX55XX]

I remember you back in the Liara thread years ago, Unit-Alpha. Maybe that's why your name looked so familiar.

Oh well, it's been a great ride. Even though BioWare has disappointed us here and there, they still know how to rile a forum community up. I've got my popcorn ready for next Thursday, when the nerdrage comes streaming in. I'll try to help people rationalize this ending.

[cerberus1701]

Like these endings or not, it could still be worse.

http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=1