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gorgoth

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Mokiki wrote...

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Lol i was talking about that yesterday...

Where's everyone that said that FemShep shouldn't be able to romance Tali? :whistle:

But in another way, it would be cheap for those who wanted MShep with Garrus :pinched:


What about MShep and Wrex? I  was rooting for them from the get go.


You have scared me for life.

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Major Swift wrote...

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Mythandariel wrote...

BOUNCING!

Maybe they will release a patch that will allow my FemShep to romance Tali. That girl was made to be hugged.


True. I mean if during my playthrough Tali would have killed herself because of a failed rannoch mission. I'd shut down my console and never touch that game again. Because I'd have failed as a human being.

 id never want to play again, i cant even stand seeing that on youtube, anyone that chooses the geth is a monster(i jest here, dont take that as an insult please to any geth sympathizers) make peace! lol


Nope, they're actually a monster... my brother couldn't even do it.. mind you his reasons were selfish "I need everyone so I don't get reaped".. but even he wasn't that selfish haha.

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Major Swift wrote...
lol there fixed :P and those are true words indeed


Always nice to meet a fellow Tali fan. Loved her since the first Mass Effect. Image IPBTali forever.Image IPB

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Computim wrote...

I liked it back when the biggest flame wars were caused by people posting pictures of Alien face hugger for Tali's actual face... before it was all about the ending :crying:

I MISS THE GOOD OLD DAYS. :crying:

hmmmm i dont know, i still really, really hate those damn pictures lol but you are correct, the ending has produced a bigger ****storm here

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Fallenfromthesky wrote...

Major Swift wrote...
lol there fixed :P and those are true words indeed


Always nice to meet a fellow Tali fan. Loved her since the first Mass Effect. Image IPBTali forever.Image IPB

damn are you like inside my head or something lmao!!!! :lol: i was going to say this! i always like running into fellow tali fans/romancers as well, tali forever indeed:wub::wub:

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Solmanian wrote...

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*snip*
summary: poster realy liked star wars glaxies, than sony changed it and it was ruined.


You can't realy compare 5min in the end of the game, sony doing a complete overhaul of your game. can you?Image IPB


Perhaps a bad comparison, totally different games, only my point is: they never do what the playerbase wants. I had hopes that Bioware would do so... though I'll wait and see how the EC DLC turns out. I'd rather had the ending fixed.

I liked SWG yea, but defo not as much as the ME series.

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gorgoth wrote...

You have scared me for life.

During the romance sequence before the last mission:

Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Garrus: Garrus

and so on.

Modifié par Mokiki, 10 avril 2012 - 09:56 .


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@g_bassi13 something you mentioned that i left out of my post was something i didn't get as well, you could literally do hardly anything and beat the reapers/have like a ridiculous amount of EMS where you figure the reapers will get decimated and it doesnt matter, "oooo i got such and such EMS rating, now i get to be morally evil and merge synthetics and organics against their will" that is not a reward.....


EMS=Space magic... or something. It all rolls back to how insignificant everything we did up to that point became.

lol "your reward for busting your ass getting all these assets and maxing your EMS out, you get to become the master wizard of the space magic if you so choose!"

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Computim wrote...

Nope, they're actually a monster... my brother couldn't even do it.. mind you his reasons were selfish "I need everyone so I don't get reaped".. but even he wasn't that selfish haha.

lol i just didn't want to insult any possible geth people here ;) honestly who can stand to hear her cry and do that to her, it breaks the heart, also what monster shoots mordin and finds satisfaction watching him crawl to the control panel while bleeding out?

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*missclicked quote button*

Modifié par Mokiki, 10 avril 2012 - 09:56 .


#80011
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@g_bassi13 i also agree with your shepard having to die part, i think thats ridiculous, the option should be there like you said was in DA:O, i should be able to live if i choose die if i want to, there is no honor in being forced into suicide/sacrifice, the choice to do so for the greater good is what brings honor

Especially if you don't believe in what you're doing. They play synthesis up like it's the ultimate sacrafice. The one the game has been working towards all along. As I said in my post, that's complete BS, and the opposite of what I stood for the entire time.

No honour in any of these sacrifices. When I watched Shepard blow herself up (with destruction, the only one time I've played the ending), there was no sense of accomplishment at all. I'd like the option of a sacrificial death, but not as presented in the game. It's lose/lose for everyone and everything as is.

Also, I'm sorry but I haven't read through your post yet. It's 3:30 in the morning now, and I don't have the energy to tackle it right now. Will read it in the morning.

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Major Swift wrote...

Computim wrote...

I liked it back when the biggest flame wars were caused by people posting pictures of Alien face hugger for Tali's actual face... before it was all about the ending :crying:

I MISS THE GOOD OLD DAYS. :crying:

hmmmm i dont know, i still really, really hate those damn pictures lol but you are correct, the ending has produced a bigger ****storm here


Also, not everyone cares about how Tali looks(especially if she's dead), but I'm pretty sure everyone cares about the ending...or at least they should...

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Major Swift wrote...

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Nope, they're actually a monster... my brother couldn't even do it.. mind you his reasons were selfish "I need everyone so I don't get reaped".. but even he wasn't that selfish haha.

lol i just didn't want to insult any possible geth people here ;) honestly who can stand to hear her cry and do that to her, it breaks the heart, also what monster shoots mordin and finds satisfaction watching him crawl to the control panel while bleeding out?


Maybe they're just not a fan of HMS Pinafore? :?

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Major Swift wrote...

damn are you like inside my head or something lmao!!!! :lol: i was going to say this! i always like running into fellow tali fans/romancers as well, tali forever indeed:wub::wub:


I could well be in your mind as I am the omnipotent Talimancer BWAHAHAHA.

I'll be serious for a sec on the subject of Tali's face I feel that it would have been better if BW ran out of time rather than paste a stock (albeit a pretty) image thay should not have revealed her face. Made her one of those mysteries that not even the author/creator knows the answer to.

Hug the Tali.Image IPB

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g_bassi13 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

@g_bassi13 i also agree with your shepard having to die part, i think thats ridiculous, the option should be there like you said was in DA:O, i should be able to live if i choose die if i want to, there is no honor in being forced into suicide/sacrifice, the choice to do so for the greater good is what brings honor

Especially if you don't believe in what you're doing. They play synthesis up like it's the ultimate sacrafice. The one the game has been working towards all along. As I said in my post, that's complete BS, and the opposite of what I stood for the entire time.

No honour in any of these sacrifices. When I watched Shepard blow herself up (with destruction, the only one time I've played the ending), there was no sense of accomplishment at all. I'd like the option of a sacrificial death, but not as presented in the game. It's lose/lose for everyone and everything as is.

Also, I'm sorry but I haven't read through your post yet. It's 3:30 in the morning now, and I don't have the energy to tackle it right now. Will read it in the morning.

lol its all good, can get to it in the morning like you said, and exactly right with everything you just said here

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TamiBx wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

Computim wrote...

I liked it back when the biggest flame wars were caused by people posting pictures of Alien face hugger for Tali's actual face... before it was all about the ending :crying:

I MISS THE GOOD OLD DAYS. :crying:

hmmmm i dont know, i still really, really hate those damn pictures lol but you are correct, the ending has produced a bigger ****storm here


Also, not everyone cares about how Tali looks(especially if she's dead), but I'm pretty sure everyone cares about the ending...or at least they should...


Signed.

Although some of those Tali facepics were awesome. *Shepard takes mask off* "Shepard" - "Wrex"

God, one of my favorites.:lol:

#80017
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Mokiki wrote...

gorgoth wrote...

You have scared me for life.

During the romance sequence before the last mission:

Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Garrus: Garrus

and so on.


I guess now we know why the Krogans were unable to breed.

#80018
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Also screw the geth. Who the hell do they think they are? I'd kill them all over again. I regret nothing! Wooh!

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While were on the geth. Did we actually confirm that Legion was the first geth who took up arms?

Modifié par Mokiki, 10 avril 2012 - 10:03 .


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i want a better ending for mass to, but if it was planed would it be remembered as even more legedary becouse of the passion of its fans(with a better ending of course) bioware could turn this around "the company that makes games so epic their fans become the game, live the game love the game,

your right about it being on the edge, bioware now have a chance to make mass trully legendary. i for one hope they take it  


See, the main reason I doubt this was planned is because they're starting things from scratch.

If at Pax they would have told us, it'll be out by the end of the month and I would see a 1 or 2 gig download waiting at the end of the month then fine, I can buy the thought that this was all part of the plan.

But they're starting from scratch. Both Shep Voice actors have admitted that they, atm had not been called back to the studio for more voice overs.

That's not something you do when you have a plan to continue the games development and release it "soon" after innitial release.

Their statements MIGHT alude to the contrary, but their actions so far point to the fact that they genuinely thought that this whole ending thing would just fly by with a few disgruntled fans but otherwise be widely accepted by people like Lost and The Sopranos. People ****ed but they still enjoyed the series more or less.

So yea, like I said it stands on the edge of the knife and if their statement of not changing ANYTHING about the ending at all, and merely expanding on it is true, ME dies a quick death ten feet from the proverbial finishline.



THATS what gets me, developers think were all like tv fans on shows like lost and the sopranos.

what they do forget was the huge backlash the ppl who made those shows recived, did you know HBO and ABC had to refund SKY tv in the uk for doing the endings as they did as they LOST a TON of customers because of it and that was ONLY in the uk.
now toss in fans around the world the backlash they gave HBO AND ABC and ever since then every new show those 2 have produced since then have been met with luke warm receptions because of those 2 shows.

developers need to stop getting into the pop culture of tv series endings for a trilogy, imagine this was a big budget movie trilogy and it ended exactly like that, i know for a FACT ppl would be wanting refunds and the cinemas WILL need to refund them then maybe toss in the riots and then financial implications from the studios and so on.
the director and the ENTIRE crew would be blacklisted all over the world and thats them, no job, no money NOTHING all because the director claimed "artist integrity" and then the director will be doing a mel gibson and go into a spiral of drugs and alcohol abuse.

video games are:-
NOT MOVIES
NOT TV SHOWS
NOT MUSIC
NOT ART
NOT BOOKS
NOT MIMES

video games are a MIX of all of the above BUT THEY ATE NOT ART

mass effect started as a great series, the 1st game started the basis of the story which was about the reapers and dark energy, the 2nd one explaned about both even more ...... from there on the story took a twist.
the 3rd game was about the reaper invasion but there was NO MENTION of dark energy anywhere, after recent events bioware have even changed the LORE of the series, heres a prime example.

mass effect 2 :The Arrival DLC it was stated, shown and reinforced that destroying a mass relay causes an explosion that can wipe out and ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM and destroying all the planets, as EDi said in the game "there is nothing left in that solar system shepard"
fast forward to yesterday where i THINK it was Gamble that said "the relays are only disabled"

uuuuhhh rrrrrright so why did in ALL the ending colours it showed the relays EXPLODING then it shows a galaxy typr map showing all the relays exploding which means we just killed the entire universe.

but NNOOOOOO according to the "NEW" recent lore relays cannot be destroyed now but only "damaged".

bioware is turning ME3 into a bigger joke now

all we wanted was AN EXTRA ENDING NOT A WHOLE CLUSTER**** OF CLARIFICATION CRAP THAT BASTERDIZES THE WHOLE FRANCHISE

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While were on the geth. Did we actually confirm that Legion was the first geth who fired a gun?

ill go to twitter and see if i can get that answered, it is strongly implied that it was him, although it wasn't confirmed

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Also screw the geth. Who the hell do they think they are? I'd kill them all over again. I regret nothing! Wooh!



But...Legion....:crying:

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Major Swift wrote...

Mokiki wrote...

While were on the geth. Did we actually confirm that Legion was the first geth who fired a gun?

ill go to twitter and see if i can get that answered, it is strongly implied that it was him, although it wasn't confirmed


Twitter, twitter, twitter....

http://social.biowar...4039/194389.jpg


This has probably become one of my favorite pictures by now :whistle:

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Mokiki wrote...

While were on the geth. Did we actually confirm that Legion was the first geth who fired a gun?


I'd be surprised if that was true. The whole "geth consensus" sequence was steeped in the representative messages that seems to be BioWare's stock in trade. Legion himself states that the virtual reality environment is using Shepard's own perceptions and memories to form the world itself.

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Major Swift wrote...

ill go to twitter and see if i can get that answered, it is strongly implied that it was him, although it wasn't confirmed


Thanks!