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Phoenix NL wrote...

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https://twitter.com/...928555408211968


Add that to list for my theory - *smirks*

Oh I'm with you, this is just too bizarre for Bioware to have done. These guys are supposed to be even more invested in the series than we are. I honestly think there's a very good chance we're being played. If this is true and they come out with something amazing their sales are going to go through the roof.


I have actually thought about it, but now I don't believe this was planned. They wouldn't go through all this trouble, risk their sales, and damage their reputation just to surprise us. If this had been planned, they would have announced when ME3 was released worldwide.

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chmarr wrote...

so EA and bioware boasting

"yes we shipped out 3.5 million copies of mass effect 3 and we have had 75 perfect reviews and the metacritic score was amazing"

fast forward to today and heres the facts

3.5 million shipped but only sold 1.5 million WORLDWIDE TO DATE

75 "perfect" reviews have now since dropped BELOW 50 as reviewers have now played the retail version and relise they were duped by the "review" version of the game which had MORE items in game but had a LOT of cutscenes removed which included the ENTIRE ending and they did not have the godchild in the review version so a lot of the reviewers have now retracted there scores.
the only ones that kept there scores are the ones in EA's pockets

the metacritic score oh wow ... really, metacritic scores are worth jackchit SERIOUSLY it means JACKCHIT.

and now the BBB actually got bioware to admit they LIED makes this the WORST game launch EVER ON RECORD.
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bioware could not lie to the BBB as if they did they would face serious repercussion's, so bioware had to tell the truth to an agency that can shut them down and freeze there assests and then jail the founders.

so yes bioware has lied and now they will have to follow through on promises they made.

so whos REALLY to blame here:-

1)- bioware
2)- EA
3)- he founders of bioware
4)- the writers
5)- the game editors
6)- the game ending writers

take your pick as the list can grow.

yup for ONCE gamers have came out a shining example of honesty as we have NOT lied and we have shown CLEAR PROOF that we were LIED TO


I know you can get overly passionate chmarr. Last I checked though, the BBB doesn't have any legal authority to go after companies. I'm not an expert though.

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TamiBx wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

https://twitter.com/...928555408211968


Add that to list for my theory - *smirks*

Oh I'm with you, this is just too bizarre for Bioware to have done. These guys are supposed to be even more invested in the series than we are. I honestly think there's a very good chance we're being played. If this is true and they come out with something amazing their sales are going to go through the roof.


I have actually thought about it, but now I don't believe this was planned. They wouldn't go through all this trouble, risk their sales, and damage their reputation just to surprise us. If this had been planned, they would have announced when ME3 was released worldwide.


Problem is, they've already sold 2.25 million copies, almost catching up with ME1 and ME2, and already outselling DA: Origins. I don't think they're risking much besides reputation, and they may be able to remedy that with the EC, especially since it's free.

Modifié par balance5050, 11 avril 2012 - 07:43 .


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balance5050 wrote...

Problem is, they've already sold 2.25 million copies, almost catching up with ME1 and ME2, and already outselling DA: Origins. I don't think they're risking much besides reputation, and they may be able to remedy that with the EC, especially since it's free.


Actually they've only sold 1.5 mil

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Has anything happened over the last 2 days? I have been a bit busy to check in.

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Ohpus wrote...

I know you can get overly passionate chmarr. Last I checked though, the BBB doesn't have any legal authority to go after companies. I'm not an expert though.


I think the BBB have some power, it can shut down fraudulent companies. But i don't think they can really do anything for false advertising apart from lower the rating of the company in question. Not too sure though.

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(Sorry if repost) Forbes again, commenting on the BBB piece

http://www.forbes.co...se-advertising/

And one about the free DLC. Although I thought I saw somewhere yet another mistake on the xbox that proved the DLC was originally supposed to be pay-for and they just changed it recently to be a freebee.

http://www.forbes.co...t-3-resurgence/

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ld1449 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Problem is, they've already sold 2.25 million copies, almost catching up with ME1 and ME2, and already outselling DA: Origins. I don't think they're risking much besides reputation, and they may be able to remedy that with the EC, especially since it's free.


Actually they've only sold 1.5 mil


1.5 mil in North America, 2.2 worldwide.

Modifié par balance5050, 11 avril 2012 - 07:47 .


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Hello to everyone on the line.

I've been meaning to post since the extended cut was announced, but my mood keeps swinging from cautious optimism, thinking that closure would make me feel less bad about the ending, but then remembering that if nothing is changing then it will still include star child and the many issues he brings.  At that point I start to go into a mild nerdrage mode where I focus on things like Joker being shown as a massive coward etc, etc.  Then it's a case of put it out of my mind, calm down and start all over again.

If star child is still there I can't see a fix for all of the issues he creates, but I'll have hope that they can work some space magic and do something great.  With that in mind, I had 2 thoughts I just wanted toput out there.

1 is only a faint hope really, but might be worth a shot.  Assuming they are still keeping statistics on ME2, there may be some value in replaying Lair of the Shadowbroker - specifically the last conversation with Liara on the Normandy where she basically asks Shepard why (s)he is fighting.  I don't remember all of the answers but I don't think any of them were represented in the endings we got.  Certainly anyone wanting an ending option with a LI reunion could do worse than to play that over again on the off chance they get the message.

The 2nd is more just a way I may be able to trick myself into getting some closure.  I didn't intend to use multiplayer at all, but now I see it as an opportunity to get old characters into the fight (and I've already paid for it so I might as well get something for it).  Eddie Lang, Lieutenant Girard, Lilihirax and Commander Rentola could all be used in that way.  I'm not on twitter or facebook so I'm not going to pay attention to events that only occur there, and in that way I will also be able to get Emily Wong into the game with the story that she was covering the war but then things went pear shaped and she had to pick up a gun to defend herself - much like Barry Pepper in 'We Were Soldiers'.

I know it's not perfect, and it's not what I wanted.  But it's the best I can do under the circumstances.

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Has anything happened over the last 2 days? I have been a bit busy to check in.

nothing of great importance, just little things like twitter posts and such

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Major Swift wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Has anything happened over the last 2 days? I have been a bit busy to check in.

nothing of great importance, just little things like twitter posts and such


Ok, thanks. I'm not sure if thats a good thing or not. I suppose it would depend on the news.:?

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The 20th Maine wrote...

Hello to everyone on the line.

I've been meaning to post since the extended cut was announced, but my mood keeps swinging from cautious optimism, thinking that closure would make me feel less bad about the ending, but then remembering that if nothing is changing then it will still include star child and the many issues he brings.  At that point I start to go into a mild nerdrage mode where I focus on things like Joker being shown as a massive coward etc, etc.  Then it's a case of put it out of my mind, calm down and start all over again.

If star child is still there I can't see a fix for all of the issues he creates, but I'll have hope that they can work some space magic and do something great.  With that in mind, I had 2 thoughts I just wanted toput out there.

1 is only a faint hope really, but might be worth a shot.  Assuming they are still keeping statistics on ME2, there may be some value in replaying Lair of the Shadowbroker - specifically the last conversation with Liara on the Normandy where she basically asks Shepard why (s)he is fighting.  I don't remember all of the answers but I don't think any of them were represented in the endings we got.  Certainly anyone wanting an ending option with a LI reunion could do worse than to play that over again on the off chance they get the message.

The 2nd is more just a way I may be able to trick myself into getting some closure.  I didn't intend to use multiplayer at all, but now I see it as an opportunity to get old characters into the fight (and I've already paid for it so I might as well get something for it).  Eddie Lang, Lieutenant Girard, Lilihirax and Commander Rentola could all be used in that way.  I'm not on twitter or facebook so I'm not going to pay attention to events that only occur there, and in that way I will also be able to get Emily Wong into the game with the story that she was covering the war but then things went pear shaped and she had to pick up a gun to defend herself - much like Barry Pepper in 'We Were Soldiers'.

I know it's not perfect, and it's not what I wanted.  But it's the best I can do under the circumstances.

We might all have to find a way to "trick" ourselves into getting closure. I found it really annoying that you only learn about some characters through FB & Twitter, neither of which I use much if at all. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Image IPB

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As for something relevant, apparently over on the Better Business Bureau blog the director of Communications wrote a blog post stating that Bioware did indeed False Advertise what we were to receive in ME3. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but just in case:

http://www.bbb.org/b...etter-or-worse/

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*tries to sneak back in like Nharia, while sipping on Pepsi*

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xHezz90 wrote...

*tries to sneak back in like Nharia, while sipping on Pepsi*

*sneaky hug* Gotcha, welcome back!

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Phoenix NL wrote...
*sneaky hug* Gotcha, welcome back!


Damn I knew I wasn't THAT sneaky hehe. *hugs* and thank's.....4 hours sleep is better than nothing right?

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xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...
*sneaky hug* Gotcha, welcome back!


Damn I knew I wasn't THAT sneaky hehe. *hugs* and thank's.....4 hours sleep is better than nothing right?

its better than the 2 hours sleep i was getting 3 nights in a row (got more than 2 last night though lol)

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Well since we want diferent things someone would be disapointed no matter what.

The big thing that broke to me is trust. I simply dont trust either EA( not that i trusted them much before) or Bioware (once my favorite develoveloper) anymore.

May all reap what they sow.

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xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...
*sneaky hug* Gotcha, welcome back!


Damn I knew I wasn't THAT sneaky hehe. *hugs* and thank's.....4 hours sleep is better than nothing right?

Shame you didn't get more but at least I got to say hi before I went off to bed Image IPB

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Major Swift wrote...

its better than the 2 hours sleep i was getting 3 nights in a row (got more than 2 last night though lol)


Yeah that's true, I probably won't be able to function properly today I need at least 8 hours a night haha :P

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xHezz90 wrote...

Damn I knew I wasn't THAT sneaky hehe. *hugs* and thank's.....4 hours sleep is better than nothing right?


Better than the 1 hour sleep i had lol.

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Phoenix NL wrote...
Shame you didn't get more but at least I got to say hi before I went off to bed Image IPB


Aww you're going to bed? well *hugs* you can have my other 4 hours for me ;)

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xHezz90 wrote...

*tries to sneak back in like Nharia, while sipping on Pepsi*


*pounces on* heehee~! I see yous~! :P

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xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...
Shame you didn't get more but at least I got to say hi before I went off to bed Image IPB


Aww you're going to bed? well *hugs* you can have my other 4 hours for me ;)

I'll try my best. Hopefully I'll catch you tomorrow morning for a better chat. Make sure you keep this lot in line while I'm gone Image IPB