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So we can't get the ending we want after all?


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jlb524

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Does anyone know how you make an organic part synthetic ? Or is it just "space magic" as someone was saying.


It seems the Synergy bit is all space magic with a laser beam.

I think someone like Shepard's DNA is needed (s/he's part synthetic and I guess her DNA has been altered somehow???  IDK)

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Capeo wrote...

Well, no, the whole population of Earth isn't decimated in that scenario is it?  

No, but they are not with their li unless their LI is Miri or Jack.

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But you can have a GREEN beam at the end! A GREEN BEAM!!!!!

Oh yes I forgot. At least we get fireworks at the end! :blink:

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Did anyone do a playthrough with 5000 ems?

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Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

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jlb524 wrote...

'Best' ending is subjective.

The hardest ending to obtain based on EMS level is 'Destroy - Shepard survives'

Which again makes no sense as Shepard should not survive that either..... GAH THE LAST PART OF THE GAME MAKES NO SENSE.


Yeah, Shepard somehow survives and... end credits?

It's more of what the Guardian says destory does and what he says Shepard is. It makes no sense how Shepard can survive destroy.


Troll-plot armor?

Thing is... noone said what Shepard does after the video. Nothing? It just cuts?

I don't think it gives an epilogue about anything actually. Just the cutscenes everyone is (for good reason) upset about. You cure the genophage? Yeah good luck finding out how the Krogans faired after all this is done. But yay! Earth is..saved..maybe.

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Mr.House wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Well, no, the whole population of Earth isn't decimated in that scenario is it?  

No, but they are not with their li unless their LI is Miri or Jack.


Or Garrus or Tali, should either (or both) of them not be recruited as squadmates.

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Mr.House wrote...

*Guardian looks at SHepard*
"You are also synthetic."

That right there means there is no way Shepard should survive Destroy, yet Shepard can? WHAT THE HECK? My brain hurts.


Yeah, it just dawned on me that because of Shepard's rebuild you are indeed man/woman and machine.

Yet you can surivive what kills Geth and AIs like EDI.

Probably a bone thrown our way to allow Shepard to survive at least one ending. Bad part about that is they picked the wrong ending to survive.

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DaftArbiter wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Well, no, the whole population of Earth isn't decimated in that scenario is it?  

No, but they are not with their li unless their LI is Miri or Jack.


Or Garrus or Tali, should either (or both) of them not be recruited as squadmates.


But is there any indication of them actually being there at then end? If we see nothing of them for the rest of game then that is no consolation at all, for they could have been killed trying to retake earth, back on their home planet or anything. 

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Mr.House wrote...

*Guardian looks at SHepard*
"You are also synthetic."

That right there means there is no way Shepard should survive Destroy, yet Shepard can? WHAT THE HECK? My brain hurts.


The relays in that ending only target syntethics with reaper tech on them, Shepard has none as far as we know.

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FJVP wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

*Guardian looks at SHepard*
"You are also synthetic."

That right there means there is no way Shepard should survive Destroy, yet Shepard can? WHAT THE HECK? My brain hurts.


The relays in that ending only target syntethics with reaper tech on them, Shepard has none as far as we know.

It was to believed the "Lazarus project" was backed using Reaper tech. Though given the track record we are running with here, it may be retconned or not even true at all.

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FJVP wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

*Guardian looks at SHepard*
"You are also synthetic."

That right there means there is no way Shepard should survive Destroy, yet Shepard can? WHAT THE HECK? My brain hurts.


The relays in that ending only target syntethics with reaper tech on them, Shepard has none as far as we know.


Shepard was rebuilt using Reaper technology if I remember correctly, yet he survives, while the Geth, who were build by the Quarians with no Reaper tech at all were destoryed. Makes perfect sense <_<

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Mr.House wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Capeo wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

'Best' ending is subjective.

The hardest ending to obtain based on EMS level is 'Destroy - Shepard survives'


It is?  Huh, I'll have to look at that chart again.  My bad.  And, yes, best is subjective for sure, though the script called Synergy the "perfect" ending.  I guess because it saves the most species.


It's 'perfect' in the sense that you are removing the possiblity of Singularity occuring in the future with organics (which is the problem scenario the Reapers exist to prevent) while also eliminating the need for the Reapers (who's methods of controlling organic evolution are brutal).

It's the hardest ending to achieve as a 'base' (you can have a crappy EMS and still get Destroy/Control...going by that chart).  However, the hardest version of any ending to get is Destroy-Shepard lives which might be the 'best' for some people b/c it's important to them that Shepard survives.

Yup, alive somehow, and alone on Earth.


How alone on earth i am totally confused :blink:

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EJ107 wrote...

FJVP wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

*Guardian looks at SHepard*
"You are also synthetic."

That right there means there is no way Shepard should survive Destroy, yet Shepard can? WHAT THE HECK? My brain hurts.


The relays in that ending only target syntethics with reaper tech on them, Shepard has none as far as we know.


Shepard was rebuilt using Reaper technology if I remember correctly, yet he survives, while the Geth, who were build by the Quarians with no Reaper tech at all were destoryed. Makes perfect sense <_<


Actually, through the course of the game the geth use reaper tech to gain more sentience (kinda like, well, the reapers). 

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FJVP wrote...

The relays in that ending only target syntethics with reaper tech on them, Shepard has none as far as we know.

I've heard nothing to suggest it limits itself to Reaper tech. In fact, that would defy the entire point. As it prevents a singularity. The singularity doesn't care where the tech came from. If it did, the problem wouldn't exist.

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I don't think that we know for sure if Shepard has Reaper tech.

But still...the Geth and EDI shouldn't be affected.

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The whole point of destroy is to get rid of all synthetic life. That also should include Shepard since the Guardian outright says Shepard is, Reaper tech or not. Shepard is not full human.

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So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

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jlb524 wrote...

I don't think that we know for sure if Shepard has Reaper tech.

But still...the Geth and EDI shouldn't be affected.

This really just gets more confusing as we go... I started to say "we'll have to wait and see", but I'm not convinced we're going to get explanations for things like this.

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So i guess no one has done an ending playthrough with 5000 war assets?

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Mr.House wrote...

The whole point of destroy is to get rid of all synthetic life. That also should include Shepard since the Guardian outright says Shepard is, Reaper tech or not. Shepard is not full human.



yeah when they had resurrect them in ME2

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Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?


You forget that there will be people who will like the endings offered. The fans of BioWare's previous games might be disappointed, though. You are assuming that everyone will be upset by the lack of choices. 

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 listen guys think rationaly here


ever stop to think that maybe these endings are just shock value?


after all can you honestly believe the devs will just kill off every fan favorite charachter?

im gona call it now. around summer time expect a dlc involving the normandy crew

and no im not an insider at bioware and no im psychic but seriously people use your brains

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Taleroth wrote...

Doesn't the dialogue between the man and the child all but state that they lack spaceflight? So how is the story getting to them anyway? And what's the point of having an epilogue that's two random people on a completely never before seen planet? Why wouldn't it be earth? Or a space colony? Or some place with buildings like we're used to seeing in every civilized locale in the setting.


Sounds like Bioware forgot that their own setting has FTL without the mass relays. 

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Not that having the end of the Reapers destroy the relays was silly or anything...
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Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?




:(:(

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Mr.House wrote...

The whole point of destroy is to get rid of all synthetic life. That also should include Shepard since the Guardian outright says Shepard is, Reaper tech or not. Shepard is not full human.


And all human biotics have synthetic implants, but they don't all die either. It's not about having cybernetics. There's clearly a threshold.