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[albertalad]

Mr.House wrote...

The whole point of destroy is to get rid of all synthetic life. That also should include Shepard since the Guardian outright says Shepard is, Reaper tech or not. Shepard is not full human.

Lol - if you did any romances in ME2 then you would be aware Shep's parts all work very well for both parties. HIs memory is also intact - and with Miranda on his side in ME2 she would have told him.

[Ianamus]

XX55XX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

You forget that there will be people who will like the endings offered. The fans of BioWare's previous games might be disappointed, though. You are assuming that everyone will be upset by the lack of choices. 

Choices or not, some people may just not like the endings. I've played games before where I joined late in the series but was just as dissastisfied with the way that perticular game ended as long term fans.

I wonder which ending Action Mode will default to. 

[FJVP]

Mr.House wrote...

The whole point of destroy is to get rid of all synthetic life. That also should include Shepard since the Guardian outright says Shepard is, Reaper tech or not. Shepard is not full human.

My bad, but yes you are correct. It's apparently tech that uses eezo that is unaffected.

[Brahlis]

XX55XX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

You forget that there will be people who will like the endings offered. The fans of BioWare's previous games might be disappointed, though. You are assuming that everyone will be upset by the lack of choices. 

I believe I'm correct in assuming that a vast majority of their long time fan base will be pissed.

Bioware's credibility will be shot if all of this turns out true. They trashed Dragon Age with #2, SWTOR is a huge disappointment and is going to fall on it's face epicly in a couple months, and they could have just potentially pissed all over their most beloved franchise and it's fans with this ending.

After eagerly waiting for DA2 and being disappointing, waiting for 2 years in a pre-release guild for SWTOR only to remain subbed for 2 months because it sucking, and then being in love with ME 1 &2 only to have the trilogy trashed by a terrible ending ... I can't think of a single reason to buy a Bioware game in the future (unless used, thus they get none of my money).

[XX55XX]

Tazzmission wrote...

 listen guys think rationaly here


ever stop to think that maybe these endings are just shock value?


after all can you honestly believe the devs will just kill off every fan favorite charachter?

im gona call it now. around summer time expect a dlc involving the normandy crew

and no im not an insider at bioware and no im psychic but seriously people use your brains

BioWare trolled us once already with DA2. What's keeping them from doing it again?

[Killjoy Cutter]

Of course, it became clear that we would get something cliched and goofy out of this once it became known that Bioware was invoking the worn-out Nerd Rapture (the singularity) as part of their story...

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 02 mars 2012 - 09:36 .

[Mr.House]

DaftArbiter wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The whole point of destroy is to get rid of all synthetic life. That also should include Shepard since the Guardian outright says Shepard is, Reaper tech or not. Shepard is not full human.

And all human biotics have synthetic implants, but they don't all die either. It's not about having cybernetics. There's clearly a threshold.

Theres a huge diffrence between implants and what was doen to Shepard. Biotics can take out their implants and still live. If Shepard even takes one of her implantso ut she will die because its the implants holding her together. Plus her bones are mostly metal now and most of her skin are fake. The Guardian also does not say oh oyu just have implants, he cleary calls you a synthetic, since Shepard is both organic and synthetic in one body.

[jellobell]

jlb524 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...
Does anyone know how you make an organic part synthetic ? Or is it just "space magic" as someone was saying.

It seems the Synergy bit is all space magic with a laser beam.

I think someone like Shepard's DNA is needed (s/he's part synthetic and I guess her DNA has been altered somehow???  IDK)

What I want to know is how this ends up killing Shepard. If all that's needed is DNA then just shave off a couple skin cells.

Modifié par jellobell, 02 mars 2012 - 09:41 .

[Mr.House]

jellobell wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...
Does anyone know how you make an organic part synthetic ? Or is it just "space magic" as someone was saying.

It seems the Synergy bit is all space magic with a laser beam.

I think someone like Shepard's DNA is needed (s/he's part synthetic and I guess her DNA has been altered somehow???  IDK)

What I want to know is how this ends up killing Shepard. If all that's needed is DNA then just shave of a couple skin cells.

You have to turn into a puddle of goo.

because,

[xtorma]

Tazzmission wrote...

 listen guys think rationaly here


ever stop to think that maybe these endings are just shock value?


after all can you honestly believe the devs will just kill off every fan favorite charachter?

im gona call it now. around summer time expect a dlc involving the normandy crew

and no im not an insider at bioware and no im psychic but seriously people use your brains

if they try and farm me for more money to get closure, they can kiss my finely sculpted femshep arse.

[Tazzmission]

XX55XX wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

 listen guys think rationaly here


ever stop to think that maybe these endings are just shock value?


after all can you honestly believe the devs will just kill off every fan favorite charachter?

im gona call it now. around summer time expect a dlc involving the normandy crew

and no im not an insider at bioware and no im psychic but seriously people use your brains

BioWare trolled us once already with DA2. What's keeping them from doing it again?

think for a moment without using da2 as an excuse

they killed shepard in me2 right and brought him back in the begining right? whos to say they wont do the same for the normandy and crew via dlc?

for all we know it can be called war survivor or w/e

i have a really hard time believing the crew will stay dead seeing as tali, liara and garrus fans will be livid.

its career suicide.

and really do you think a mass effect spinoff will work without even one charachter we know not being involved?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 02 mars 2012 - 09:39 .

[RazorrX]

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

It will not hurt Bioware much in the long run at all.  *IF* the endings are really bad, and *if* they run off the old fans, Bioware has/will pick up new fans to make up for the loss (possibly more than they lose).  Figure the people who are going to be the most put out are the ones who played both ME1 and ME2, where Bioware is heavily marketing ME3 as the end all game - the perfect "you can start here" experience, etc.  

So for every old fan they lose I guess they figure they can pick up 1 or more new fans to the point of who cares?  New players will not care about the ending, as they do not have any emotional connection to the characters or existing story.  They will enjoy a grimdark ending an say it was 'edgy', etc.  

[jlb524]

jellobell wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...
Does anyone know how you make an organic part synthetic ? Or is it just "space magic" as someone was saying.

It seems the Synergy bit is all space magic with a laser beam.

I think someone like Shepard's DNA is needed (s/he's part synthetic and I guess her DNA has been altered somehow???  IDK)

What I want to know is how this ends up killing Shepard. If all that's needed is DNA then just shave of a couple skin cells.

Because Shepard needs to jump dramatically into a laser beam...

...I don't know.

[Mr.House]

jlb524 wrote...

Because Shepard needs to jump dramatically into a laser beam...

...I don't know.

Drama.

[Brahlis]

RazorrX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

It will not hurt Bioware much in the long run at all.  *IF* the endings are really bad, and *if* they run off the old fans, Bioware has/will pick up new fans to make up for the loss (possibly more than they lose).  Figure the people who are going to be the most put out are the ones who played both ME1 and ME2, where Bioware is heavily marketing ME3 as the end all game - the perfect "you can start here" experience, etc.  

So for every old fan they lose I guess they figure they can pick up 1 or more new fans to the point of who cares?  New players will not care about the ending, as they do not have any emotional connection to the characters or existing story.  They will enjoy a grimdark ending an say it was 'edgy', etc.  

That's just sad.

... nd probably true.

[Garrus30]

quoting myself

Garrus30 wrote...

Wasn't somewhere mentioned that you also need the Galaxy Collection Assignments in ME1?

• UNC: Prothean Data Discs
• UNC: Turian Insignias
• UNC: Valuable Minerals
• UNC: Locate Signs of Battle
• UNC: Asari Writings

[XX55XX]

Brahlis wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

You forget that there will be people who will like the endings offered. The fans of BioWare's previous games might be disappointed, though. You are assuming that everyone will be upset by the lack of choices. 

I believe I'm correct in assuming that a vast majority of their long time fan base will be pissed.

Bioware's credibility will be shot if all of this turns out true. They trashed Dragon Age with #2, SWTOR is a huge disappointment and is going to fall on it's face epicly in a couple months, and they could have just potentially pissed all over their most beloved franchise and it's fans with this ending.

After eagerly waiting for DA2 and being disappointing, waiting for 2 years in a pre-release guild for SWTOR only to remain subbed for 2 months because it sucking, and then being in love with ME 1 &2 only to have the trilogy trashed by a terrible ending ... I can't think of a single reason to buy a Bioware game in the future (unless used, thus they get none of my money).

Let me get this straight: The main thrust of the criticism here is that choices don't seem to impact the ending much at all. That I understand. But again, anyone who has played the previous games knows how much BioWare has strayed away from the traditional RPG path in favor of offering a more cinematic experience for the player. 

Do I mind? Not really. Many games don't let you make major choices that impact the ending. The Witcher 2 is a big example of that. But, has BioWare let down the community through its incessant marketing doublespeak? Maybe. Perhaps some of us trust their words too much. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

jellobell wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Does anyone know how you make an organic part synthetic ? Or is it just "space magic" as someone was saying.

It seems the Synergy bit is all space magic with a laser beam.

I think someone like Shepard's DNA is needed (s/he's part synthetic and I guess her DNA has been altered somehow???  IDK)

What I want to know is how this ends up killing Shepard. If all that's needed is DNA then just shave of a couple skin cells.

That tidbit about Shep's DNA came from the same team that thought you could copy people's minds into a gestalt entity by melting them down in transparent chambers and pouring the goop through a tube... 
 

[jellobell]

jlb524 wrote...

jellobell wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...
Does anyone know how you make an organic part synthetic ? Or is it just "space magic" as someone was saying.

It seems the Synergy bit is all space magic with a laser beam.

I think someone like Shepard's DNA is needed (s/he's part synthetic and I guess her DNA has been altered somehow???  IDK)

What I want to know is how this ends up killing Shepard. If all that's needed is DNA then just shave off a couple skin cells.

Because Shepard needs to jump dramatically into a laser beam...

...I don't know.

...seriously? Come on. <_<

Modifié par jellobell, 02 mars 2012 - 09:43 .

[Ianamus]

RazorrX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

It will not hurt Bioware much in the long run at all.  *IF* the endings are really bad, and *if* they run off the old fans, Bioware has/will pick up new fans to make up for the loss (possibly more than they lose).  Figure the people who are going to be the most put out are the ones who played both ME1 and ME2, where Bioware is heavily marketing ME3 as the end all game - the perfect "you can start here" experience, etc.  

So for every old fan they lose I guess they figure they can pick up 1 or more new fans to the point of who cares?  New players will not care about the ending, as they do not have any emotional connection to the characters or existing story. They will enjoy a grimdark ending an say it was 'edgy', etc.  

That's a bit of a generalisation. People were sad when the Virmire survivor dies in ME1, and they only knew them for one game. I'm sure that some people who start as Mass Effect 3 won't like the ending. 

Besides, a lot of people played Mass Effect 2. Pissing off the majority of them with this ending is far from a good move buisness-wise, especially after DA:2 left a sour taste in amny peoples mouths. 

[Tazzmission]

RazorrX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

So for every old fan they lose I guess they figure they can pick up 1 or more new fans to the point of who cares?  New players will not care about the ending, as they do not have any emotional connection to the characters or existing story.  They will enjoy a grimdark ending an say it was 'edgy', etc.  

i mean this in a polite way and not a attack but if i was bioware i would be glad if the old rpg fans were gone

lets be honest here they do in fact do all the crying and moaning and say the most digusting things

i mean really alot of them have stated because theres no choices in these endings there gona cancell there orders.

ive said it before im not a true rpg fan i admit and i also admit that i dont allow myself to get so attached to a charachter mainly because things do change regarding a trilogy

i still love the universe they have created but i dont need to obsess over liara or tali to be a true mass effect fan

dont you think thats a bit selfish?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 02 mars 2012 - 09:44 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

RazorrX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

It will not hurt Bioware much in the long run at all.  *IF* the endings are really bad, and *if* they run off the old fans, Bioware has/will pick up new fans to make up for the loss (possibly more than they lose).  Figure the people who are going to be the most put out are the ones who played both ME1 and ME2, where Bioware is heavily marketing ME3 as the end all game - the perfect "you can start here" experience, etc.  

So for every old fan they lose I guess they figure they can pick up 1 or more new fans to the point of who cares?  New players will not care about the ending, as they do not have any emotional connection to the characters or existing story.  They will enjoy a grimdark ending an say it was 'edgy', etc.  

Maybe they'll get all those CoD/BF/Halo dudebro fans that EA wants to keep selling more games to...

[Nerevar-as]

RazorrX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

It will not hurt Bioware much in the long run at all.  *IF* the endings are really bad, and *if* they run off the old fans, Bioware has/will pick up new fans to make up for the loss (possibly more than they lose).  Figure the people who are going to be the most put out are the ones who played both ME1 and ME2, where Bioware is heavily marketing ME3 as the end all game - the perfect "you can start here" experience, etc.  

So for every old fan they lose I guess they figure they can pick up 1 or more new fans to the point of who cares?  New players will not care about the ending, as they do not have any emotional connection to the characters or existing story.  They will enjoy a grimdark ending an say it was 'edgy', etc.  

That´s probably what they thought would happen with DA2. Look how it turned out.

Although I don´t think they´ll make the numbers public, they´ll get a fair idea of how this worked with ME3 DLCs, comparing sales to ME2.

I´d like to know how many people will play DLC chronologicaly before an ending the probably died knowing whatever happens won´t matter much.