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What I wouldn't give for a mo-cap studio... and a better model editor.

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I'd pay for it if they added a Femshep - Ashley thing. I have no idea why it's not already in the game. She's been annoying me non-stop since her cameo in ME2, but it annoys me more that it's not an option. Hell it was an option in ME1, before they removed it at the last second. I don't know why they couldn't bring it back. They brought back the Kaiden - Broshep thing... So why not this one?

Actually Femshep romances pale in comparison to Maleshep options under just about every circumstance. They should've thought this through better when they wrote this stuff.


High five! There's been some discussion about this elsewhere and the concensus seems to be that Ashley was omitted for female Shepards due to balancing out numbers. It becomes a case of quality versus quantity though, in that although female Shepard does have a number of female options, only Traynor approaches the depth of Kaidan or Steve (for male Shepards) in terms of content. Liara too, if you count her, but that's a whole other argument.

Straight female Shepard got it even worse, though. So yeah. Female Shepard loses out to male Shepard on a lot of things.


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Because it would be damn unrealistic if all characters were Bi somhow. I'm happy they did no FemShep LI with Ash.. wouldn't fit her and would be somhow like the "Kaidan is now also in Male"-Shep thing.. And no I have no problems with gay people =) I only don't like character twisting.


I'd agree with you on this, but we're talking only Kaidan and Ashley here, not a whole slew of characters. And in fact a lot of Ash/female Shepard supporters were upset by the fact that in terms of their role in Shepard's story, the VS are identical in all aspects except this.


Yeah but I think there are allready enough bi/gay/lesbian characters like Liara and Traynor for FemShep and Cortez and Kaidan for Male Shep in 3 and Ash for example in one never was Bi/Lesbian.. so why now ?
And twisting  characters cause some want them to be diffrent is somthing I don't really support. YOu can't have everything.. so if Ash is not Bi/Lesbian that is somthing you have to live with and that's nothing people should be complaining about...

Modifié par Vahilor, 12 avril 2012 - 05:20 .


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I've been thinking about that article where the author mentioned getting that 3rd disc that could only be played on a dev Xbox. We have no evidence to know if that's true but it would be cool if they released a dlc that would add little bits throughout the game rather than just one big side mission. Ignoring the ending, it would make it interesting to replay the game and find all the things that have been added, well I think so anyway!

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If you never have played 1 or 2 you only have Ash and Liara (and this annoying reporter ^^) for a straight Male Shep and Kaidan for a straigt FemSHep.. so nobody has to complain, only straight FemShep cause she has only 1 option.

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evisneffo wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

I'd pay for it if they added a Femshep - Ashley thing. I have no idea why it's not already in the game. She's been annoying me non-stop since her cameo in ME2, but it annoys me more that it's not an option. Hell it was an option in ME1, before they removed it at the last second. I don't know why they couldn't bring it back. They brought back the Kaiden - Broshep thing... So why not this one?

Actually Femshep romances pale in comparison to Maleshep options under just about every circumstance. They should've thought this through better when they wrote this stuff.


High five! There's been some discussion about this elsewhere and the consensus seems to be that Ashley was omitted for female Shepards due to balancing out numbers. It becomes a case of quality versus quantity though, in that although female Shepard does have a number of female options, only Traynor approaches the depth of Kaidan or Steve (for male Shepards) in terms of content. Liara too, if you count her, but that's a whole other argument.

Straight female Shepard got it even worse, though. So yeah. Female Shepard loses out to male Shepard on a lot of things.


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Because it would be damn unrealistic if all characters were Bi somhow. I'm happy they did no FemShep LI with Ash.. wouldn't fit her and would be somhow like the "Kaidan is now also in Male"-Shep thing.. And no I have no problems with gay people =) I only don't like character twisting.


I'd agree with you on this, but we're talking only Kaidan and Ashley here, not a whole slew of characters. And in fact a lot of Ash/female Shepard supporters were upset by the fact that in terms of their role in Shepard's story, the VS are identical in all aspects except this.

I swear, if they left out Femshep-Ashley because of Diana Freacking Allers Imma go break something right now.

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Vahilor wrote...

Yeah but I think there are allready enough bi/gay/lesbian characters like Liara and Traynor for FemShep and Cortez and Kaidan for Male Shep in 3 and Ash for example in one never was Bi/Lesbian.. so why now ?
And twisting  characters cause some want them to be diffrent is somthing I don't really support. YOu can't have everything.. so if Ash is not Bi/Lesbian that is somthing you have to live with and that's nothing people should be complaining about...


Yeah yeah, that's why you'll never see me with a "RETAKE ASHLEY WILLIAMS" banner in my signature. It would have been nice but I'll live without it.

One could argue your last point could also be made about the backlash against the ending, though.

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I'm all for a council dlc. Where you play one of the council members and sit behind a desk and have to make decisions all day.

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g_bassi13 wrote...

I swear, if they left out Femshep-Ashley because of Diana Freacking Allers Imma go break something right now.


Honestly, they probably did. :mellow:


@Vahilor -- sorry if I sounded grouchy in my other post. I do get a bit grouchy arguing about this stuff. I should sleep.

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evisneffo wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Yeah but I think there are allready enough bi/gay/lesbian characters like Liara and Traynor for FemShep and Cortez and Kaidan for Male Shep in 3 and Ash for example in one never was Bi/Lesbian.. so why now ?
And twisting  characters cause some want them to be diffrent is somthing I don't really support. YOu can't have everything.. so if Ash is not Bi/Lesbian that is somthing you have to live with and that's nothing people should be complaining about...


Yeah yeah, that's why you'll never see me with a "RETAKE ASHLEY WILLIAMS" banner in my signature. It would have been nice but I'll live without it.

One could argue your last point could also be made about the backlash against the ending, though.


The crappy ending is nothing you can compare with a "You did not make the character lesbian cause I wanted to date her with my FemShep"
Sorry to soud so harsh.. but that is somthing you can't compare..

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Can't.... Stop.... Watching.


How is it that some guy can create such a fluid animation, ME3 has the most awkward clunky animations ever. I especially like the cat grooming animation. You guys remember that one. The first tie i saw it was in ME1, when Tali is playing the audio of Saren, and Shepard puts it together and realizes what the Vision he saw was.

he puts his wrist up to his chin, wipes his mouth, then puts his wrist on his forehead, and wipes his forehead with it. Why is he grooming himself like a cat?!?!

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evisneffo wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Yeah but I think there are allready enough bi/gay/lesbian characters like Liara and Traynor for FemShep and Cortez and Kaidan for Male Shep in 3 and Ash for example in one never was Bi/Lesbian.. so why now ?
And twisting  characters cause some want them to be diffrent is somthing I don't really support. YOu can't have everything.. so if Ash is not Bi/Lesbian that is somthing you have to live with and that's nothing people should be complaining about...


Yeah yeah, that's why you'll never see me with a "RETAKE ASHLEY WILLIAMS" banner in my signature. It would have been nice but I'll live without it.

One could argue your last point could also be made about the backlash against the ending, though.


Heheh, that sounds really dirty.... :whistle:

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hi guys been lurkin for a few days haha. but i had to share this with you .

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Major Swift wrote...

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https://twitter.com/...311929787580417 doesn't outright deny it was planned, but i think thats just that usual kind of talk we get from anyone bioware


What does this tweet say?  I keep getting a rate limit message...dumb network!

someone asked "Curiosity: does this suggest the Extended Cut was always planned, but the timing changed to meet unexpected demand?"
Gamble said "not necessarily always planned, no. but we are adjusting other DLC to make sure we get this out ASAP."


Thanks Swifty!

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evisneffo wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

I swear, if they left out Femshep-Ashley because of Diana Freacking Allers Imma go break something right now.


Honestly, they probably did. :mellow:


@Vahilor -- sorry if I sounded grouchy in my other post. I do get a bit grouchy arguing about this stuff. I should sleep.

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xHezz90 wrote...

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I was referring to the Skyrim video lol.

I probably couldn't even play that Star Wars game, because in reality I couldn't dance to save my life. Any time I go to a club with friends, I try my longest to hang out at the bar before someone grabs my hand and literally drags me to the dancefloor.


Did you fix the link then? last time I clicked it, was the star wars one lol.

I can't dance either. Luckily I don't go to clubs, have no friends and rarely leave the house. Give me a good book/game/movie and I'm happy as a clam :D

  = Skyrim video. I have no idea how you guys were linked to the star wars one instead.

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hello my friends, any interesting news?

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Mokiki wrote...

I'm all for a council dlc. Where you play one of the council members and sit behind a desk and have to make decisions all day.

Since you know how this game handles the decisions you make, that DLC is even more pointless then you already probably imagained it was.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Heheh, that sounds really dirty.... :whistle:


:blink:
Totally your fault if I have some weird dreams tonight. :D


Vahilor wrote...

The crappy ending is nothing you can compare with a "You did not make the character lesbian cause I wanted to date her with my FemShep"
Sorry to soud so harsh.. but that is somthing you can't compare..


I want to respond to this but can't think much right now and don't want to risk snapping at you. I'll think about it and get back to you tomorrow maybe.

Modifié par evisneffo, 12 avril 2012 - 05:33 .


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Mokiki wrote...

I'm all for a council dlc. Where you play one of the council members and sit behind a desk and have to make decisions all day.



Decisions?

Only one goal


Maintain

Status

Quo



Also dinner meeting with rest of council to decide put downs to shepards revalations

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 12 avril 2012 - 05:34 .


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g_bassi13 wrote...

Mokiki wrote...

I'm all for a council dlc. Where you play one of the council members and sit behind a desk and have to make decisions all day.

Since you know how this game handles the decisions you make, that DLC is even more pointless then you already probably imagained it was.

lmao im all for that as long as stuff like this happens when im the council member :lol::lol::P

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Vahilor wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Yeah but I think there are allready enough bi/gay/lesbian characters like Liara and Traynor for FemShep and Cortez and Kaidan for Male Shep in 3 and Ash for example in one never was Bi/Lesbian.. so why now ?
And twisting  characters cause some want them to be diffrent is somthing I don't really support. YOu can't have everything.. so if Ash is not Bi/Lesbian that is somthing you have to live with and that's nothing people should be complaining about...


Yeah yeah, that's why you'll never see me with a "RETAKE ASHLEY WILLIAMS" banner in my signature. It would have been nice but I'll live without it.

One could argue your last point could also be made about the backlash against the ending, though.


The crappy ending is nothing you can compare with a "You did not make the character lesbian cause I wanted to date her with my FemShep"
Sorry to soud so harsh.. but that is somthing you can't compare..

I don't neccesarily agree. Obviously it's something I could live without, but in my opinion, it's really something that should be in the game from a logical stand point at least. You can't do it with one Vimire Survivor, and not the other.

But you know what they say about opinions.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 12 avril 2012 - 05:37 .


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g_bassi13 wrote...

Since you know how this game handles the decisions you make, that DLC is even more pointless then you already probably imagained it was.


Don't be so pessimistic it would be totally badass. Everytime the conversation wheel pops up the only answer available is bottom right - "No". Or on Special ocassions Top Left - "Make Spectre". :D

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evisneffo wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Heheh, that sounds really dirty.... :whistle:


:blink:
Totally your fault if I have some weird dreams tonight. :D


But it's totally your fault for saying it that way~! I'm innocent~! :innocent:

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g_bassi13 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Yeah but I think there are allready enough bi/gay/lesbian characters like Liara and Traynor for FemShep and Cortez and Kaidan for Male Shep in 3 and Ash for example in one never was Bi/Lesbian.. so why now ?
And twisting  characters cause some want them to be diffrent is somthing I don't really support. YOu can't have everything.. so if Ash is not Bi/Lesbian that is somthing you have to live with and that's nothing people should be complaining about...


Yeah yeah, that's why you'll never see me with a "RETAKE ASHLEY WILLIAMS" banner in my signature. It would have been nice but I'll live without it.

One could argue your last point could also be made about the backlash against the ending, though.


The crappy ending is nothing you can compare with a "You did not make the character lesbian cause I wanted to date her with my FemShep"
Sorry to soud so harsh.. but that is somthing you can't compare..

I don't neccesarily agree. Obviously it's something I could live without, but in my opinion, it's really something that should be in the game from a logical stand point at least. You can't do it with one Vimire Survivor, and not the other.

But you know what they say about opinions.


I din't like it either they twisted Kaidan this way =) and was happy they didn't do it to Ash too cause it dosn't fit of either of the characters (but only my opinion on that).
It would have been better to bring up new characters for that.