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[VivaLaWhatsername]

CaptnObvious wrote...

Yeah, i know it's easy to just shrug off false accusation. 

I just meant if the FTC actually puts his nose into this, it'll be hard to shake off. At a certain point, they can keep to just shrug everything off, but it'll still hurt them anyways.

Yeah if the FTC actually DID step in then they would be sweating buckets. But we don't really want FTC to step in, not now anyway....it's a bit too far.

[CaptnObvious]

xHezz90 wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...


The BBB only gives ratings, there is no actually punishment/reward system.

The FTC is serious business, which is probably why the complain won't go anywhere with them (as a side note, I don't think it should, anyway).

Oh really? well my point still stands, the FTC aren't reprimanding them and apparently it would be too hard to actually take to court.

Lol, admitedly not over an ending, but if they keep their business practises like this, it'll hit them back... One day... Maybe...
Edit: Sorry for the english errors. A bit tired over here.

Modifié par CaptnObvious, 13 avril 2012 - 07:16 .

[laughing sherpa girl]

CaptnObvious wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...


Well...they aren't actually being reprimanded by either so they can shrug it off easily.

Yeah, i know it's easy to just shrug off false accusation. 

I just meant if the FTC actually puts his nose into this, it'll be hard to shake off. At a certain point, they can keep to just shrug everything off, but it'll still hurt them anyways.

I'm afraid if the FTC gets involved they wont have anything to shrug off.. It doesnt take a lawyer to see that  EA and Bioware have clearly presented false and misleading advertisement in an effort to gain the most sales as possible from this game. I'm afraid BW and EA would be in for a hefty fine.. In the photo of Tali, is the original photographer given credit anywhere?? That would infer even more problems: Stock photo or not.
I however agree that the FTC is not the way to go. It wont fix the ending. It'll only make matters worse..

[VivaLaWhatsername]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

I'm afraid if the FTC gets involved they wont have anything to shrug off.. It doesnt take a lawyer to see that  EA and Bioware have clearly presented false and misleading advertisement in an effort to gain the most sales as possible from this game. I'm afraid BW and EA would be in for a hefty fine.. In the photo of Tali, is the original photographer given credit anywhere?? That would infer even more problems: Stock photo or not.
I however agree that the FTC is not the way to go. It wont fix the ending. It'll only make matters worse..

Yeah if "we" got the FTC involved it really would make us out to be entitled whiners.

[Goodwood]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

(it's a Buddhist thing).

I'm also very glad to hear that you are a supporter and advocate for the mentally ill. That's another thing that's been a big issue in many facets of my life.

Damn! your good.. I didnt think anyone would pick up on the Buddhism part..
Annnnd here comes the renagade.. :;chuckles:: its not mental illness.. cant be cured with drugs rest or alcohol..  Is abnormal, which is means not normal, or not average, or mediocre. They interpret the world differently than the average person, and sometimes drugs are needed to help them balance our world with theirs. But they artent sick. they're just not like us, and therefore at odds with the world we create. Kinda like the Bollus in a sense.. They are life out of balance, in a world which doesnt understand balance..

Sooo, yeah. ME3 kinda crystalizes everything we've been discussing in my head, and puts it there like a precious gem, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand then crushes it with a huge old mallet..  Its not as bad as my dreams can be, but, yeah, its pretty devestating..

That is certainly an interesting way of looking at things.

Both my girlfriend and myself have firsthand experience with such things. While it is tempting to look at it from your point of view, I have long accepted the fact that I am who I am, that others are who they are, and that trying to couch our conditions in terms of "differently-abled" (which is just one such euphemism that I never cared for) isn't the way to go (that said, we also despise the term "normal" and refuse to be acknowledged as such). Therapy can certainly take all sorts of different forms from a simple pill a day to extensive rehabilitation and supervision even to the point of involuntary incerceration. It's just how it is, and I don't mean to demean your point of view in the least; I can only imagine the pain you've gone through in your own life.

Perhaps the fact that ME3 represents both the apogee and perigee of the kinds of stories we want and desire, that it, as you say, presents us with a fabulous treasure only to smash it upon the ground, is why I and others in this thread felt physically sick when the atrocity finished playing itself out. Again, it's the whole thing about how one's mental state can influence their physical state. Psychosomatic disorders tend to work in a similar manner; if we are depressed enough mentally, we may feel lethargic and irascible in a manner similar enough to known physical ailments that a doctor who didn't know might actually perscribe an antibiotic.

Modifié par Goodwood, 13 avril 2012 - 07:27 .

[The Fazzle]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

-250,000-5mil creds per item in the Legacy skills tree (plus leveling up your Legacy).
-Customisation does not allow...well...customisation.
-Crafting system still hasnt had the overhaul it needs (no point to armor/weapon crafting still).
-Legacy system is not even complete yet (a lot is still under "Coming Soon").

So yeah, TOR 1.2 is a bust.
Yeah, it is off topic...Until you connect the dots. TOR quality is low, ME3 quality has been a tad lacking...I think BioWare spread themselves too thin. Either that, or they have stopped caring about the quality of their products (which happens to EA controlled companies).

Yea...those prices are pretty intense, for gimmicks too. Guess it gives you something to strive for? Very surprised at how much is still under the "coming soon" category as well. Still no crafting overhaul? Thought that was one of the major points to 1.2...Bah, oh well, I wouldn't go so far as to completely call TOR a bust, it's still pretty new and they have made improvements, and I personally find it entertaining at the moment. But I agree that BW quality has certainly gone down several notches over the years, which is sad =(

[laughing sherpa girl]

xHezz90 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

I'm afraid if the FTC gets involved they wont have anything to shrug off.. It doesnt take a lawyer to see that  EA and Bioware have clearly presented false and misleading advertisement in an effort to gain the most sales as possible from this game. I'm afraid BW and EA would be in for a hefty fine.. In the photo of Tali, is the original photographer given credit anywhere?? That would infer even more problems: Stock photo or not.
I however agree that the FTC is not the way to go. It wont fix the ending. It'll only make matters worse..

Yeah if "we" got the FTC involved it really would make us out to be entitled whiners.

better than being entitled losers who just tuck tails between their legs and slink off into the shadows where the bullies wont find us..
No, what i'm saying is that the fines would be frighteningly high, and would endanger what appears to be our favorite developer.

[xcomcmdr]

I received a reply from Jessica Merizan, on BSN's messaging thingy, about the Twitter troll that insulted her and other people at Bioware over Twitter.

She thanked me for my " kind words ".

Now I've got kind of a little warmy fuzzy feeling inside. I wonder what that is.

AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.

Same here. But I would pay 3 times more for a SpaceBrat removal DLC. He is that bad.

And then I would be done with BiowEAre.

[CaptnObvious]

xHezz90 wrote...
Yeah if "we" got the FTC involved it really would make us out to be entitled whiners.

Well tell that to the one person that complained to the BBB.

Im french canadian, i don't have any idea what any of the FTC/BBB stuff means 

[evisneffo]

xcomcmdr wrote...

I received a reply from Jessica Merizan, on BSN's messaging thingy, about the Twitter troll that insulted her and other people at Bioware over Twitter.

She thanked me for my " kind words ".

Now I've got kind of a little warmy fuzzy feeling inside. I wonder what that is.

Aww, that's cool. No matter what other people say about it being her job and whatnot, I genuinely feel bad for Jessica and other BW staff, the way some of the nastier fans treat them.

[GroverA125]

xcomcmdr wrote...

I received a reply from Jessica Merizan, on BSN's messaging thingy, about the Twitter troll that insulted her and other people at Bioware over Twitter.

She thanked me for my " kind words ".

Now I've got kind of a little warmy fuzzy feeling inside. I wonder what that is.

AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.

Same here. But I would pay 3 times more for a SpaceBrat removal DLC. He is that bad.

And then I would be done with BiowEAre.

I find that EAware slips off the tongue better, And it puts EA first, Bioware after, which makes it accurate to the actuality of this.

Modifié par GroverA125, 13 avril 2012 - 07:29 .

[Goodwood]

GroverA125 wrote...

xcomcmdr wrote...

I received a reply from Jessica Merizan, on BSN's messaging thingy, about the Twitter troll that insulted her and other people at Bioware over Twitter.

She thanked me for my " kind words ".

Now I've got kind of a little warmy fuzzy feeling inside. I wonder what that is.

AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.

Same here. But I would pay 3 times more for a SpaceBrat removal DLC. He is that bad.

And then I would be done with BiowEAre.

I find that EAware slips off the tongue better, And it puts EA first, Bioware after, which makes it accurate to the actuality of this.

BioWare was indoctrinated by the rEApers!

That, in a nutshell, is your grand and noble "Indoctrination Theory"! ;)

Modifié par Goodwood, 13 avril 2012 - 07:32 .

[VivaLaWhatsername]

 *Severely off topic thought*

I hate Christmas episodes of TV shows when it's no where near Christmas 

*End of severly off topic thought*

OK so sadly I can't think of anything on topic at the moment.

[Goodwood]

xHezz90 wrote...

 *Severely off topic thought*

I hate Christmas episodes of TV shows when it's no where near Christmas 

*End of severly off topic thought*

OK so sadly I can't think of anything on topic at the moment.

I don't really care for Christmas episodes of TV shows at all.

A-hah!

[CaptnObvious]

xHezz90 wrote...

 *Severely off topic thought*

I hate Christmas episodes of TV shows when it's no where near Christmas 

*End of severly off topic thought*

OK so sadly I can't think of anything on topic at the moment.

Mmmmhnm, what about the ending being full of **** ? 

[evisneffo]

Goodwood wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

 *Severely off topic thought*

I hate Christmas episodes of TV shows when it's no where near Christmas 

*End of severly off topic thought*

OK so sadly I can't think of anything on topic at the moment.

I don't really care for Christmas episodes of TV shows at all.

A-hah!

That Christmas (technically "X-Mas") episode of Futurama is pretty funny.

[Goodwood]

evisneffo wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

 *Severely off topic thought*

I hate Christmas episodes of TV shows when it's no where near Christmas 

*End of severly off topic thought*

OK so sadly I can't think of anything on topic at the moment.

I don't really care for Christmas episodes of TV shows at all.

A-hah!

That Christmas (technically "X-Mas") episode of Futurama is pretty funny.

I suppose it was. But it wasn't as funny as others (not that it was awful or anything).

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Goodwood wrote...

I don't really care for Christmas episodes of TV shows at all.

A-hah!

LOL, I don't mind them but when it's not Christmas it's weird...<_<

CaptnObvious wrote...

Mmmmhnm, what about the ending being full of **** ? 

Well that sucks too, but I doubt what I am watching would end like that.

evisneffo wrote...

That Christmas (technically "X-Mas") episode of Futurama is pretty funny. 

LOL I love Futurama. Bender is the best 

[CaptnObvious]

xHezz90 wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

Mmmmhnm, what about the ending being full of **** ? 

Well that sucks too, but I doubt what I am watching would end like that.

I meant it to be about on-topic:P

xHezz90 wrote...
OK so sadly I can't think of anything on topic at the moment.

You know, the ending, what's the topic's all about 

[Keyrlis]

I filed a BBB complaint against my phone provider, but they have a contract.
Just quit buying games that don't meet standards.

ME3 was the first new game I've bought in years. I usually wait until it hits the used rack so I can hear some real reviews from real people and save a couple bucks. I will return to that habit now, but I would have picked up ME3 at some point anyway. I've put too much time into the first games and got too involved in the story lines to not see how they finished it up.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

CaptnObvious wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

Mmmmhnm, what about the ending being full of **** ? 

Well that sucks too, but I doubt what I am watching would end like that.

I meant it to be about on-topic:P

xHezz90 wrote...
OK so sadly I can't think of anything on topic at the moment.

You know, the ending, what's the topic's all about 

Haha oops....man I am so slow today lol.

[laughing sherpa girl]

Goodwood wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

(it's a Buddhist thing).

I'm also very glad to hear that you are a supporter and advocate for the mentally ill. That's another thing that's been a big issue in many facets of my life.

Damn! your good.. I didnt think anyone would pick up on the Buddhism part..
Annnnd here comes the renagade.. :;chuckles:: its not mental illness.. cant be cured with drugs rest or alcohol..  Is abnormal, which is means not normal, or not average, or mediocre. They interpret the world differently than the average person, and sometimes drugs are needed to help them balance our world with theirs. But they artent sick. they're just not like us, and therefore at odds with the world we create. Kinda like the Bollus in a sense.. They are life out of balance, in a world which doesnt understand balance..

Sooo, yeah. ME3 kinda crystalizes everything we've been discussing in my head, and puts it there like a precious gem, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand then crushes it with a huge old mallet..  Its not as bad as my dreams can be, but, yeah, its pretty devestating..

That is certainly an interesting way of looking at things.

Both my girlfriend and myself have firsthand experience with such things. While it is tempting to look at it from your point of view, I have long accepted the fact that I am who I am, that others are who they are, and that trying to couch our conditions in terms of "differently-abled" (which is just one such euphemism that I never cared for) isn't the way to go (that said, we also despise the term "normal" and refuse to be acknowledged as such). Therapy can certainly take all sorts of different forms from a simple pill a day to extensive rehabilitation and supervision even to the point of involuntary incerceration. It's just how it is, and I don't mean to demean your point of view in the least; I can only imagine the pain you've gone through in your own life.

Perhaps the fact that ME3 represents both the apogee and perigee of the kinds of stories we want and desire, that it, as you say, presents us with a fabulous treasure only to smash it upon the ground, is why I and others in this thread felt physically sick when the atrocity finished playing itself out. Again, it's the whole thing about how one's mental state can influence their physical state. Psychosomatic disorders tend to work in a similar manner; if we are depressed enough mentally, we may feel lethargic and irascible in a manner similar enough to known physical ailments that a doctor who didn't know might actually perscribe an antibiotic.

Well see, I dont exist in the MH world as a singularity. Neither do i know or  understand all things, or even many parts of some things. I work with a team of individuals who act as advisors. That team is comprised of MH professionals, certified peer specialists and of course, the MH community, and together, we work towards helping these people recover from everything from alcoholism to trauma.. Mostly i'm a check signer and tie breaker when we have to take a vote that ends up in a stalemate. I dont really have any pain in my life right now. The biggest issues in my life are PTSD from the war, ADD from being born me, and advanced chronic emphasema which is causing a kind of accelerated senility because i cant get enough air ( i've refused oxygen treatment ).
Truth told, I was in Nam. ME is glorious and all, but for adventure ( in the words truest sense, to enter into a state of risk ) it doesnt hold a candle to real war. Thats a good thing.. But, it keeps me thinking on my feet. It allows me to explore defensive and offensive maneuvers, and it does let me walk away with a sense of accomplishment, or at least thats what i expected.
Where ME parables reality for me is that fire season is going to start in a few months here. People are going to lose their homes, their pets,  evertything they ever worked for, and I dont have a team trained to help those people.
yeah, i want my successful ending. Not only in ME3. It doesnt have to be happy, but i want that success.. If i can help even one person to pick up their feet and step forward again, I've accomplished something. ME3 is no different and the lines get blurred in my emotions..

[CaptnObvious]

Hey guys, what's this thing about Mass Effect: Homeworlds by Mac Walters ??
Did i miss something or what? I just played the games; never read any of the comics...

Edit: Weird, i know, but it's the first time i get that add on youtube, so i was wondering...

Modifié par CaptnObvious, 13 avril 2012 - 08:10 .

[Goodwood]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

(it's a Buddhist thing).

I'm also very glad to hear that you are a supporter and advocate for the mentally ill. That's another thing that's been a big issue in many facets of my life.

Damn! your good.. I didnt think anyone would pick up on the Buddhism part..
Annnnd here comes the renagade.. :;chuckles:: its not mental illness.. cant be cured with drugs rest or alcohol..  Is abnormal, which is means not normal, or not average, or mediocre. They interpret the world differently than the average person, and sometimes drugs are needed to help them balance our world with theirs. But they artent sick. they're just not like us, and therefore at odds with the world we create. Kinda like the Bollus in a sense.. They are life out of balance, in a world which doesnt understand balance..

Sooo, yeah. ME3 kinda crystalizes everything we've been discussing in my head, and puts it there like a precious gem, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand then crushes it with a huge old mallet..  Its not as bad as my dreams can be, but, yeah, its pretty devestating..

That is certainly an interesting way of looking at things.

Both my girlfriend and myself have firsthand experience with such things. While it is tempting to look at it from your point of view, I have long accepted the fact that I am who I am, that others are who they are, and that trying to couch our conditions in terms of "differently-abled" (which is just one such euphemism that I never cared for) isn't the way to go (that said, we also despise the term "normal" and refuse to be acknowledged as such). Therapy can certainly take all sorts of different forms from a simple pill a day to extensive rehabilitation and supervision even to the point of involuntary incerceration. It's just how it is, and I don't mean to demean your point of view in the least; I can only imagine the pain you've gone through in your own life.

Perhaps the fact that ME3 represents both the apogee and perigee of the kinds of stories we want and desire, that it, as you say, presents us with a fabulous treasure only to smash it upon the ground, is why I and others in this thread felt physically sick when the atrocity finished playing itself out. Again, it's the whole thing about how one's mental state can influence their physical state. Psychosomatic disorders tend to work in a similar manner; if we are depressed enough mentally, we may feel lethargic and irascible in a manner similar enough to known physical ailments that a doctor who didn't know might actually perscribe an antibiotic.

Well see, I dont exist in the MH world as a singularity. Neither do i know or  understand all things, or even many parts of some things. I work with a team of individuals who act as advisors. That team is comprised of MH professionals, certified peer specialists and of course, the MH community, and together, we work towards helping these people recover from everything from alcoholism to trauma.. Mostly i'm a check signer and tie breaker when we have to take a vote that ends up in a stalemate. I dont really have any pain in my life right now. The biggest issues in my life are PTSD from the war, ADD from being born me, and advanced chronic emphasema which is causing a kind of accelerated senility because i cant get enough air ( i've refused oxygen treatment ).
Truth told, I was in Nam. ME is glorious and all, but for adventure ( in the words truest sense, to enter into a state of risk ) it doesnt hold a candle to real war. Thats a good thing.. But, it keeps me thinking on my feet. It allows me to explore defensive and offensive maneuvers, and it does let me walk away with a sense of accomplishment, or at least thats what i expected.
Where ME parables reality for me is that fire season is going to start in a few months here. People are going to lose their homes, their pets,  evertything they ever worked for, and I dont have a team trained to help those people.
yeah, i want my successful ending. Not only in ME3. It doesnt have to be happy, but i want that success.. If i can help even one person to pick up their feet and step forward again, I've accomplished something. ME3 is no different and the lines get blurred in my emotions..

I think I understand now where you're coming from, I appreciate you sharing this with me.

My point wasn't to dispose your view in the least; indeed, I can see now how you would have come to hold it. Either way, I'm still glad you are doing the work you do and see that we all need our support systems to get through the day, never mind the next week or even our whole lives. To drive that point home, if it wasn't for people who cared enough to reach out to me in my late teen years and later, I would be a gibbering pile of cartilage in some insitituion somewhere, a statistic to hide so much wasted potential. You have seen and done things that I will never be able to, nor would I necessarily want to (it's all well and good to study war, but I don't want to have to fight in one if it can be avoided).

As you're no doubt aware, there are people out there who feel as though they don't need anyone to help them. They think that they can live apart from society, aloof, and see other people as burdens (particularly on their pocketbook, as they hate the very idea of paying taxes). I pity them, I really do, because we as humans are social creatures. The ME series did an enormous job of impressing upon the player that the only way to go forward is to go forward together (both paragon and renegade ultimately boil down to the same thing, it's just a question of modality).

I hope you reconsider the oxygen treatment, because I have a feeling that your mind is the kind that others close to you would treasure. After all, without one's mind, what else is there?

[Lestatman]

I'm starting to think this whole ending thing is a blessing to Bioware. I started another walkthru even tho I know what the ending is going to be like but went ahead and started up my Renegade Shep. As I was playing thru I started to get annoyed by other things in the game like quest log, go and fetch quests, eavesdropping to pick up quests, treatment of ME2 characeters/romances etc, I could go on with more.

Now I know these are not game breaking or as big as the ending but if you add them all up it is a chunck of the game or maybe the ending has made me more pessimistic about the overall game and if they fix the ending I'll see things in a more positve/brighter view.