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I don't think the person asking the previous poster to not just post 3333 was saying this hasn't or shouldn't be a chat area. I think what they were trying to get across by meaningful content is that they were worried the Mods would see the post as spam and no one that's been here a while wants to see this thread shut down.
I think they were trying to a mini version of DJBares reminders =)

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LadyMarisa wrote...

I don't think the person asking the previous poster to not just post 3333 was saying this hasn't or shouldn't be a chat area. I think what they were trying to get across by meaningful content is that they were worried the Mods would see the post as spam and no one that's been here a while wants to see this thread shut down.
I think they were trying to a mini version of DJBares reminders =)

I know. Was just poking fun is all.

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Mass Effect 1 was 36 hours

Mass Effect 2 was 50+ hours

Mass Effect 3 was 33 hours, with a couple of them spent trying to sort the hell out of my quests.

So yeah, I think it was way too short, especially when it was supposed to be the epic finale.

Also, these times are coming from a guy who does every quest and squeezes every last second he can get out of the game.



Yeah OCD people did get shafted this time.

Although, I'm kind of glad we didn't have to land for every single fetch quest.

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Aparently Bioware's patch is causing widespread crashes...

Damn, Bioware must have been hit upside the head harder than we thought with all the anger we threw at them.

You have this, The ending, TOR patch that's fallen sorta flat for people from what I hear. They're taking hit after hit after hit.

I think at this point they really need to step back, regroup and get back in the game, because its like watching a dazed fighter still trying to swing at their oponent who's standing in a completely different spot.

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Synthesis-ending:

Shepard stands in front of the big green beam of light and starts spitting in it.

Starchild: "Um... what are you doing?"
Shepard: "Hello? DNA? How else should I give it to your stupid machine? Throw myself into the light? What do you take me for? Some kind of Space-Magic-Idiot?


It's been a while since i finished but didn't the Star Child say it was *your* DNA that was needed? So chucking Anderson (while a good idea) in wouldn't have worked. Of course, we all agree the whole Star Child incident is awful. Instead of spitting though, since I'm bleeding everywhere and nearly dead, I would have just started shaking like a wet dog and squeezed my really wounded arm over the beam. :P

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ld1449 wrote...

Aparently Bioware's patch is causing widespread crashes...

Damn, Bioware must have been hit upside the head harder than we thought with all the anger we threw at them.

You have this, The ending, TOR patch that's fallen sorta flat for people from what I hear. They're taking hit after hit after hit.

I think at this point they really need to step back, regroup and get back in the game, because its like watching a dazed fighter still trying to swing at their oponent who's standing in a completely different spot.


The patch was the ghost of Marauder Shields, still trying to save us from beyond the grave.

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breakdown71289 wrote...

3333!


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LadyMarisa wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Synthesis-ending:

Shepard stands in front of the big green beam of light and starts spitting in it.

Starchild: "Um... what are you doing?"
Shepard: "Hello? DNA? How else should I give it to your stupid machine? Throw myself into the light? What do you take me for? Some kind of Space-Magic-Idiot?


It's been a while since i finished but didn't the Star Child say it was *your* DNA that was needed? So chucking Anderson (while a good idea) in wouldn't have worked. Of course, we all agree the whole Star Child incident is awful. Instead of spitting though, since I'm bleeding everywhere and nearly dead, I would have just started shaking like a wet dog and squeezed my really wounded arm over the beam. :P


Maybe if you're a male shep there should be another option? >.>

More importantly, I fail to see how hurling myself into a giant laser beam counts as a donation of my DNA. It clearly disintegrates you. Don't see how the organic bits stay intact. It's burning your flesh off.

Honestly, I think the best thing they could do with the ending would be for Shep to suffer a different karmic death based on choices made throughout the series. The worst of which being that, if you Renegade Option Conrad Verner or the Reporter throughout the series, you get assasinated by them.

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Spartas Husky wrote...

Thore2k10 wrote...

anyone got any idea, why andersons shield is not working in the end? i mean his armor is still intact, or not?


Doubt they had shields to begin with. The micro processor in the back is the shield generator. And it takes shield projectors to enable the shield. So I doubt anything less than an actual Combat Armor like Major Koats had would deploy shields.

Given their diminished supplies I'd take it he passed on something like that to someone else.


Shepard managed to have one concealed in a tux. I'm sure that Anderson, a HVCO (High-Value Commanding Officer) would at least be supplied with one, considering that he's co-ordinating the entire ground force.

If Shepard having one in his tux is space magic, then I'm sure space magic can explain why Anderson's didn't have shields, as well as the fact that by some miracle, after being hit by a reaper death-beam, Shepards armor was destroyed and removed, and yet his left arm, which lost its gel layer, is perfectly intact with little to no visible problems with it...

Either way, continuing from my previous post: what's everyone else going to do, I need to reach a verdict, and I need community guidance. What are you going to do if/when the Extended Cut shows up and unsuprisingly doesn't fufill what we wanted? Are you going to bail, and risk watching Bioware fall apart from afar, or will you stay behind, and hope that things improve in the future and we get the old Bioware back?

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Atrocity wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

Because this thread is all about the content.

Well I can't be here all the time, can I now? ;)

Do you think they'll release any DLC before the EC? Probably not anything with a price-tag on it, obviously, but they did release the MP DLC, so I wonder.

You might get some MP DLC. I doubt they're going to try to push a priced story based DLC until after all this is sorted out. So yeah, what you said.

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g_bassi13 wrote...

ExcTar wrote...

People keep highlighting the length of the game, reality is though it's just as long as ME1 and 2, I went back to ME1 and 2 after completing 3, both had a total playtime of 20-22 hours, this is with a 100% completion of all Assignments and every single planet visited, first playthrough in ME3 lasted 28-32 hours, so length of the game doesn't differ from the previous two.

For me

Mass Effect 1 was 36 hours

Mass Effect 2 was 50+ hours

Mass Effect 3 was 33 hours, with a couple of them spent trying to sort the hell out of my quests.

So yeah, I think it was way too short, especially when it was supposed to be the epic finale.

Also, these times are coming from a guy who does every quest and squeezes every last second he can get out of the game.



ME1 = 23 hours
ME2 = 24 hours
ME3 = 20 hours

i did those non-stop also thats doing EVERY side mission and EVERY DLC mission for each of them.

ME3 is short missions wise, if you did every main mission and side mission you'll be lucky if its even 10 hours, the rest of the time is traveling , scanning.

when i get a new game i want to slaughter it in one run and i always do,

now the first run i can do in under 12 hours but then i go back and run through EVERYTHING else.

so in short, yes ME3 is to short for the size of the game so it does say to me items were removed and there are things that give it away, certain people in the citidel who are talking about things and that they need help are not giving side missions out when they should be.

theres a lot of little things adding up  to removed content which is obvious to be sold later on

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GroverA125 wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Thore2k10 wrote...

anyone got any idea, why andersons shield is not working in the end? i mean his armor is still intact, or not?


Doubt they had shields to begin with. The micro processor in the back is the shield generator. And it takes shield projectors to enable the shield. So I doubt anything less than an actual Combat Armor like Major Koats had would deploy shields.

Given their diminished supplies I'd take it he passed on something like that to someone else.


Shepard managed to have one concealed in a tux. I'm sure that Anderson, a HVCO (High-Value Commanding Officer) would at least be supplied with one, considering that he's co-ordinating the entire ground force.

If Shepard having one in his tux is space magic, then I'm sure space magic can explain why Anderson's didn't have shields, as well as the fact that by some miracle, after being hit by a reaper death-beam, Shepards armor was destroyed and removed, and yet his left arm, which lost its gel layer, is perfectly intact with little to no visible problems with it...

Either way, continuing from my previous post: what's everyone else going to do, I need to reach a verdict, and I need community guidance. What are you going to do if/when the Extended Cut shows up and unsuprisingly doesn't fufill what we wanted? Are you going to bail, and risk watching Bioware fall apart from afar, or will you stay behind, and hope that things improve in the future and we get the old Bioware back?


im staying as long as it takes... want my "old" bioware back! with the whole me series ( - the ending) they proved, that they still can deliver. i intend to help the retake movement make em deliver!

they should take an example of cd projekt. they are providing a huge amount of new contend for the witcher 2 (great game btw), like they did for the first witcher game.

Modifié par Thore2k10, 13 avril 2012 - 08:05 .


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chmarr wrote...


ME1 = 23 hours
ME2 = 24 hours
ME3 = 20 hours

i did those non-stop also thats doing EVERY side mission and EVERY DLC mission for each of them.

ME3 is short missions wise, if you did every main mission and side mission you'll be lucky if its even 10 hours, the rest of the time is traveling , scanning.

when i get a new game i want to slaughter it in one run and i always do,

now the first run i can do in under 12 hours but then i go back and run through EVERYTHING else.

so in short, yes ME3 is to short for the size of the game so it does say to me items were removed and there are things that give it away, certain people in the citidel who are talking about things and that they need help are not giving side missions out when they should be.

theres a lot of little things adding up  to removed content which is obvious to be sold later on


Then people wonder why we hate EA so much.

They take their cues from capcom. Capcom held back the ending for Asura's wrath from what I understand, made people pay for it.

EA may have (if some of the theories out there are true) decided to do the same thing here. And I thank god it blew up in their faces if its true.

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Thore2k10 wrote...
im staying as long as it takes... want my "old" bioware back! with the whole me series ( - the ending) they proved, that they still can deliver. i intend to help the retake movement make em deliver!

they should take an example of cd projekt. they are providing a huge amount of new contend for the witcher 2 (great game btw), like they did for the first witcher game.


So, you'd rather risk terrible future Mass Effect/Dragon Age games instead of an absence of said games?

Edit: and Bethesda are moving along that line as well now. They added new features to the game in a patch, and now they're doing Kinect functionality in the next one. Completely free. While not as big as Witcher, it's still a pretty nice thought, and like Witcher, it didn't really need the things they're adding to be a great game, but adding it makes the game better. This gets me though: Are companies now releasing free DLC to help their cause, EAware have done it, Bethesda, this cd projekt I keep hearing of... is it the dawn of free DLC?
*End of Contribution*

Modifié par GroverA125, 13 avril 2012 - 08:22 .


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I think the free MP DLC was to keep MP players showing up, and maybe due to the fury of the Day 1 DLC.

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Look at this:

Playstation ME3 Price
Xbox ME3 Price


These are Canadian prices.  This is sad...normally it takes months to see a price drop like that, rather than just 1.  Heck, I've seen games that are virtually the same price as they were starting off after years of being for sale:  Valkyria Chronicles is one of them.

This has to be hurting their bottom line.

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Just re-posting this, and Sage, no, the Free MP DLC was done because of this whole ending ****storm. Everyone knows it but no one would ever really admit it.

They were gonna charge 340 MSP for it I think. But then this happened and now they're scrambling to keep us from returning our game copies and to get whatever goodwill they can, back

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Alamandorious wrote...

Look at this:

Playstation ME3 Price
Xbox ME3 Price


These are Canadian prices.  This is sad...normally it takes months to see a price drop like that, rather than just 1.  Heck, I've seen games that are virtually the same price as they were starting off after years of being for sale:  Valkyria Chronicles is one of them.

This has to be hurting their bottom line.


They sent out MILLIONS of copies of this game, and hardly anyone has BOUGHT IT after reports of the ending being awful. The internets are aflame and word spread. Friends telling friends "DON'T BUY IT!"

Their bottom line was "hurt" the second or third week. It's been on life support since April 1st. Better to try and recover some of the losses.

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GroverA125 wrote...

So, you'd rather risk terrible future Mass Effect/Dragon Age games instead of an absence of said games?


mass effect and dragon age were not terrible imo. the ending of mass effect was the only thing which was terrible (understatement of the decade). dragon age 2 was not a bad game, it wasnt as good as dragon age 1, but still good and worth playing.

lets presume extended cut will be bad. godkid is still there, we still choose our favourite color and mass relays still blow up and we get just a few new cutscenes (which is most likely all what we will get anyway). after that we all go quiet (lost hope, moving on, losing interest etc.) and then everybody thinks that we are satisfied.

now every developer releases unfinished games, because if theres any resistance at all, they release some cgi crap and are done with it.

"worked with the guys at bioware and their ME debacle, so it will work with our games as well."

thats why i hope that the retake movement will stay strong after the extended cut release, if necessary.

hope i was able to get my point across, sry for bad english =]

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A couple of days ago I walked past my local Gamestop. They had the sign with their usual "Trade in your old games" offer beneath a large ME3 poster.

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sagevallant wrote...

I think the free MP DLC was to keep MP players showing up, and maybe due to the fury of the Day 1 DLC.

Also that little thing with the ending there. I heard there were a couple of people upset with that.

There was some evidence that the DLC was originally going to cost money, because when they initially released it on XBox, a 350 MS point price was applied to it. It was an error, but one that was carried over as that it was the planned price before they decided to release it as freebie to attempt to appease the fans. This was funny because they said it was always going to be free, and that the game's reception had nothing to do with it.

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g_bassi13 wrote...
:whistle:

Being serious for a second there's this if you haven't read it yet

http://social.biowar...x/11340267&lf=8 

Also this video, which is about to be reposted for the 10th time or so

 


Good afternoon everyone. Hope all of you guys day is alot more sunny and less thundery than mine.

Anyway thanks for the links,I was wonderig when he was going to respond to the DLC.

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Just re-posting this, and Sage, no, the Free MP DLC was done because of this whole ending ****storm. Everyone knows it but no one would ever really admit it.

They were gonna charge 340 MSP for it I think. But then this happened and now they're scrambling to keep us from returning our game copies and to get whatever goodwill they can, back


That's the thing though, we were ALREADY UPSET because of the Day 1 DLC. That was already on the disc. We were upset about Galactic Readiness. We just wanted to play THE GAME, not deal with all this peripheral crap.And then people started beating the game and the rage just transferred over and multiplied a thousandfold.

They were going to charge for it when they thought people might pay it. Once distributors started accepting returns, that line of thought went straight out the window. And it could all have been fixed if they had just promised to redo the ending properly, as they still refuse to do.

Free MP cannot and will not make up for the ending, it was just a desperate moneygrab to get us to not return our copies.

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chmarr wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

ExcTar wrote...

People keep highlighting the length of the game, reality is though it's just as long as ME1 and 2, I went back to ME1 and 2 after completing 3, both had a total playtime of 20-22 hours, this is with a 100% completion of all Assignments and every single planet visited, first playthrough in ME3 lasted 28-32 hours, so length of the game doesn't differ from the previous two.

For me

Mass Effect 1 was 36 hours

Mass Effect 2 was 50+ hours

Mass Effect 3 was 33 hours, with a couple of them spent trying to sort the hell out of my quests.

So yeah, I think it was way too short, especially when it was supposed to be the epic finale.

Also, these times are coming from a guy who does every quest and squeezes every last second he can get out of the game.



ME1 = 23 hours
ME2 = 24 hours
ME3 = 20 hours

i did those non-stop also thats doing EVERY side mission and EVERY DLC mission for each of them.

ME3 is short missions wise, if you did every main mission and side mission you'll be lucky if its even 10 hours, the rest of the time is traveling , scanning.

when i get a new game i want to slaughter it in one run and i always do,

now the first run i can do in under 12 hours but then i go back and run through EVERYTHING else.

so in short, yes ME3 is to short for the size of the game so it does say to me items were removed and there are things that give it away, certain people in the citidel who are talking about things and that they need help are not giving side missions out when they should be.

theres a lot of little things adding up  to removed content which is obvious to be sold later on


Now that someone said something like that. I am not ashamed :P

ME1: 374 hrs 34 mins
This was with my... ^^^ soldier only. Can't fidn the same for the sentinel and adept :P so is easy double that.:unsure:
ME2: 160 hrs 13 Minutes
ME3: 123 hrs. 05 minutes

I dare say I passed ME1 over and over and over iwth my soldier. And again with the sentinel and adept after I found the glitch to carry over equipment, and give my adept and sentinel heavy armor.

I ran playthrough after playthrough after playthrough.

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Bionic Weapon wrote...
Good afternoon everyone. Hope all of you guys day is alot more sunny and less thundery than mine.

Anyway thanks for the links,I was wonderig when he was going to respond to the DLC.

nope, unless you mean weather wise, im back but i probably won't have anything to really contribute today :(