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[chmarr]

sagevallant wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Look at this:

Playstation ME3 Price
Xbox ME3 Price


These are Canadian prices.  This is sad...normally it takes months to see a price drop like that, rather than just 1.  Heck, I've seen games that are virtually the same price as they were starting off after years of being for sale:  Valkyria Chronicles is one of them.

This has to be hurting their bottom line.

They sent out MILLIONS of copies of this game, and hardly anyone has BOUGHT IT after reports of the ending being awful. The internets are aflame and word spread. Friends telling friends "DON'T BUY IT!"

Their bottom line was "hurt" the second or third week. It's been on life support since April 1st. Better to try and recover some of the losses.

they sent out 3.5 MILLION games and only sold WORLDWIDE 1.5 MILLION MAX

[GroverA125]

Thore2k10 wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

So, you'd rather risk terrible future Mass Effect/Dragon Age games instead of an absence of said games?

mass effect and dragon age were not terrible imo. the ending of mass effect was the only thing which was terrible (understatement of the decade). dragon age 2 was not a bad game, it wasnt as good as dragon age 1, but still good and worth playing.

lets presume extended cut will be bad. godkid is still there, we still choose our favourite color and mass relays still blow up and we get just a few new cutscenes (which is most likely all what we will get anyway). after that we all go quiet (lost hope, moving on, losing interest etc.) and then everybody thinks that we are satisfied.

now every developer releases unfinished games, because if theres any resistance at all, they release some cgi crap and are done with it.

"worked with the guys at bioware and their ME debacle, so it will work with our games as well."

thats why i hope that the retake movement will stay strong after the extended cut release, if necessary.

hope i was able to get my point across, sry for bad english

Understand: the issue with the endings is not what the issue is. The issue is that EAware now knows (if we lose) it can get away with it, and will then put less effort into pleasing the community as there is no longer a requirement to, because they are immune to our complaints as their "artistic vision" shield protects them against said issues. And basically, they'll turn into the LucasArts of the gaming industry, releasing utter rubbish as fast as possible to bleed the remaining fanbase for everything they're worth.

That's one of the possibilities, the alternative is much brighter.
*End of Contribution*

Modifié par GroverA125, 13 avril 2012 - 08:49 .

[chmarr]

Spartas Husky wrote...
Now that someone said something like that. I am not ashamed

ME1: 374 hrs 34 mins
This was with my... ^^^ soldier only. Can't fidn the same for the sentinel and adept so is easy double that.
ME2: 160 hrs 13 Minutes
ME3: 123 hrs. 05 minutes

I dare say I passed ME1 over and over and over iwth my soldier. And again with the sentinel and adept after I found the glitch to carry over equipment, and give my adept and sentinel heavy armor.

I ran playthrough after playthrough after playthrough.

if your talking about TOTAL hours played on each game .........
ME1 is a LOT less than yours i have like 158 hours
ME2 god i have way OVER 300 hours
ME3 i have 221 hours

yes i have a problem ~CRIES~ someone get me some energy caffinie filled drinks

[Zwei133]

Artemis_Fowl wrote...
http://www.destructo...ng-225222.phtml

This.

[g_bassi13]

GroverA125 wrote...

Edit: and Bethesda are moving along that line as well now. They added new features to the game in a patch, and now they're doing Kinect functionality in the next one. Completely free. While not as big as Witcher, it's still a pretty nice thought, and like Witcher, it didn't really need the things they're adding to be a great game, but adding it makes the game better. This gets me though: Are companies now releasing free DLC to help their cause, EAware have done it, Bethesda, this cd projekt I keep hearing of... is it the dawn of free DLC?
*End of Contribution*

The difference is that Bethesda and CD Projekt did it as a kind gesture to their fans, whereas Bioware has done out of a pure negative reaction to the game. Also The Witcher 2 is getting a substantial add on, whereas Mass Effect fans will end up with half assed content that really feels like more of an insult than a gift.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 13 avril 2012 - 08:53 .

[Nharia1]

chmarr wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...
Now that someone said something like that. I am not ashamed

ME1: 374 hrs 34 mins
This was with my... ^^^ soldier only. Can't fidn the same for the sentinel and adept so is easy double that.
ME2: 160 hrs 13 Minutes
ME3: 123 hrs. 05 minutes

I dare say I passed ME1 over and over and over iwth my soldier. And again with the sentinel and adept after I found the glitch to carry over equipment, and give my adept and sentinel heavy armor.

I ran playthrough after playthrough after playthrough.

if your talking about TOTAL hours played on each game .........
ME1 is a LOT less than yours i have like 158 hours
ME2 god i have way OVER 300 hours
ME3 i have 221 hours

yes i have a problem ~CRIES~ someone get me some energy caffinie filled drinks

ME1: 600+ easily...
ME2: Yet another 600+
ME3: Um.... Right now it's sitting at... 300 SP only... With MP added on... close to 500 maybe?

[GroverA125]

sagevallant wrote...

ld1449 wrote...



Just re-posting this, and Sage, no, the Free MP DLC was done because of this whole ending ****storm. Everyone knows it but no one would ever really admit it.

They were gonna charge 340 MSP for it I think. But then this happened and now they're scrambling to keep us from returning our game copies and to get whatever goodwill they can, back

That's the thing though, we were ALREADY UPSET because of the Day 1 DLC. That was already on the disc. We were upset about Galactic Readiness. We just wanted to play THE GAME, not deal with all this peripheral crap.And then people started beating the game and the rage just transferred over and multiplied a thousandfold.

They were going to charge for it when they thought people might pay it. Once distributors started accepting returns, that line of thought went straight out the window. And it could all have been fixed if they had just promised to redo the ending properly, as they still refuse to do.

Free MP cannot and will not make up for the ending, it was just a desperate moneygrab to get us to not return our copies.

Plus there's one issue with that plan of theirs anyway: Their system is flawed. It lacks the continuity that games such as Halo, Gears of War and CoD have. They have a diverse range of game modes, with a wide variety of  equipment and combat styles. Mass Effect has a single game mode, very undiverse characters, virtually unnoticable equipment, and very limited customization combinations, as well as only three major enemy types, all of which act very similar. Unlike the games I mentioned, there's nothing to keep the player hooked, not enough variables to get it to work. As such, any DLC they release will die out rather quickly. It's not even been a week, and people are already getting tired of the Resurgence content, it's not because of the additions, it's because the system they've made is too simple to keep people hooked.
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[Spartas Husky]

Nharia1 wrote...

chmarr wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...
Now that someone said something like that. I am not ashamed

ME1: 374 hrs 34 mins
This was with my... ^^^ soldier only. Can't fidn the same for the sentinel and adept so is easy double that.
ME2: 160 hrs 13 Minutes
ME3: 123 hrs. 05 minutes

I dare say I passed ME1 over and over and over iwth my soldier. And again with the sentinel and adept after I found the glitch to carry over equipment, and give my adept and sentinel heavy armor.

I ran playthrough after playthrough after playthrough.

if your talking about TOTAL hours played on each game .........
ME1 is a LOT less than yours i have like 158 hours
ME2 god i have way OVER 300 hours
ME3 i have 221 hours

yes i have a problem ~CRIES~ someone get me some energy caffinie filled drinks

ME1: 600+ easily...
ME2: Yet another 600+
ME3: Um.... Right now it's sitting at... 300 SP only... With MP added on... close to 500 maybe?

Sweet I dont have a mental problem. Found my other saves. Me1 only goes to 593 hrs. SOldier Sentinel and Adept combined

ME2 is  only 250.

ME3 surpringnly ... or maybe not much a surprise. Spending more time in MP than single player. Coz the ending sucks, if nobody has noticed

[B33ker]

Archengeia has a 4th video up now if people haven't seen it yet.



It's about the whole EC DLC debacle.

[Thore2k10]

GroverA125 wrote...


Understand: the issue with the endings is not what the issue is. The issue is that EAware now knows (if we lose) it can get away with it, and will then put less effort into pleasing the community as there is no longer a requirement to, because they are immune to our complaints as their "artistic vision" shield protects them against said issues. And basically, they'll turn into the LucasArts of the gaming industry, releasing utter rubbish as fast as possible to bleed the remaining fanbase for everything they're worth.

That's one of the possibilities, the alternative is much brighter.
*End of Contribution*

well i think thats something only time can tell... nobody knows how many customers bioware lost already over this. the sales of ME3 were catastrophic as far as i have heard. 1.5 million sold units is nothing

i think they will know if they can do stuff like this, when bioware brings out the next game. either nobody is buying it, than its clear that they can certainly not do stunts like this, or they sell it like always, then itll get worse i imagine...

[Cecilia L]

Guy filming his brother's reaction to ME3 ending.

This is probably how most people felt about the ending.
Personally, I had pretty much the same reaction, except I also started crying in despair and chock.

[ExcTar]

Tyion133 wrote...

Miranda's ''armor'' explain that !

Easy, Mirandas gigantic ass provides the rear(lolpun) support, while her gigantic breasts provide amble damage reduction to incoming bullets

[ExcTar]

Cecilia L wrote...



Guy filming his brother's reaction to ME3 ending.

This is probably how most people felt about the ending.
Personally, I had pretty much the same reaction, except I also started crying in despair and chock.

I actually laughed and smiled at this, not because I find it funny, I just find it so comically depressing to see that, that is the average ME fans reaction to the game, can say my reaction was quite on par with yours though Ceci

[chmarr]

one word



CUPCAKES

[Cecilia L]

three words

EMERGENCY INDUCTION PORT

[LetheAlethe]

My plan for now: waiting for someone to try the "clarification" DLC (there will always be *someone* trying it), and seeing what it is like. Definitely not touching it unless it actually does what we're waiting for it to do. Letting them know vocally if it falls short. *If* it is actually good (from all the descriptions, I can't imagine it, but there is always a tiny chance), letting them know that it is only acceptable because it's free. Letting them know in any case that there are some serious issues with the way they make their games right now if they are so out of touch that they thought these endings were clever and deep and awesome (also, day one DLC and stuff like the Tali portrait), which makes them quite simply unreliable, which reduces them to the status of "Won't pre-order games from this company and might not even buy their games if it gets really bad".

They should hear that some half-assed extra cutscenes are utterly unaccpetable, and notice it some way (which might not be immediately possible, can only be done through redacting support for future games and possibly TOR, and reminding people at large about this whole affair at certain points and intervals, because people as a mass tend to forget rather remarkably much of the time).

edit: typos

Modifié par LetheAlethe, 13 avril 2012 - 09:23 .

[TamiBx]

chmarr wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

For me

Mass Effect 1 was 36 hours

Mass Effect 2 was 50+ hours

Mass Effect 3 was 33 hours, with a couple of them spent trying to sort the hell out of my quests.

So yeah, I think it was way too short, especially when it was supposed to be the epic finale.

Also, these times are coming from a guy who does every quest and squeezes every last second he can get out of the game.

ME1 = 23 hours
ME2 = 24 hours
ME3 = 20 hours

i did those non-stop also thats doing EVERY side mission and EVERY DLC mission for each of them.

ME3 is short missions wise, if you did every main mission and side mission you'll be lucky if its even 10 hours, the rest of the time is traveling , scanning.

when i get a new game i want to slaughter it in one run and i always do,

now the first run i can do in under 12 hours but then i go back and run through EVERYTHING else.

so in short, yes ME3 is to short for the size of the game so it does say to me items were removed and there are things that give it away, certain people in the citidel who are talking about things and that they need help are not giving side missions out when they should be.

theres a lot of little things adding up  to removed content which is obvious to be sold later on

I don't remember the exact time I spent in each one of them (can't check either, since Xbox 360 is currently across the country for me), but I know I spend a lot of time in ME3 trying to figure out the side missions because the journal doesn' update itself (which is ridiculous). I also remember I spent a lot of time in ME3 going around trying to talk to people when all they would do was talk to themselves and I would site there and listen, with no chance to interact. 

Since it was the epic finally, I thought we would get 3 discs for the 360, but nope, just 2. And there were less missions than in ME2, so...I was a little disappointed when I was done (I finished it in 2 days after doing every little single thing I could do)

[sagevallant]

chmarr wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Look at this:

Playstation ME3 Price
Xbox ME3 Price


These are Canadian prices.  This is sad...normally it takes months to see a price drop like that, rather than just 1.  Heck, I've seen games that are virtually the same price as they were starting off after years of being for sale:  Valkyria Chronicles is one of them.

This has to be hurting their bottom line.

They sent out MILLIONS of copies of this game, and hardly anyone has BOUGHT IT after reports of the ending being awful. The internets are aflame and word spread. Friends telling friends "DON'T BUY IT!"

Their bottom line was "hurt" the second or third week. It's been on life support since April 1st. Better to try and recover some of the losses.

they sent out 3.5 MILLION games and only sold WORLDWIDE 1.5 MILLION MAX

I thought I heard 2.2 mill worldwide. Before refunds hit. Used copies are probably dirt cheap at this point.

[Major Swift]

Cecilia L wrote...



Guy filming his brother's reaction to ME3 ending.

This is probably how most people felt about the ending.
Personally, I had pretty much the same reaction, except I also started crying in despair and chock.

"i feel like i just did nothing, why did i invest 50 hours to do nothing" such true words
edit: 5 years like his brother said for the rest of us here though

Modifié par Major Swift, 13 avril 2012 - 09:34 .

[sagevallant]

B33ker wrote...

Archengeia has a 4th video up now if people haven't seen it yet.



It's about the whole EC DLC debacle.

It has been linked so many times that the more diligent forum goers have been threatening to slap the next person to link it. Fortunately your avatar is a little blue child so might get off with 5 minutes in the naughty corner.

[xcomcmdr]

Another HUGE plot hole from the ending : On Virmire in ME1, you learn from Sovereign that the Reapers built the Citadel.

So they built the Catalyst, and he built the Reapers ?

Circular reasonning here !

/Good night. ^^

[Ihatebadgames]

Hi all anything happen today on the line?

[chmarr]

Cecilia L wrote...

three words

EMERGENCY INDUCTION PORT

lets compromise


EMERGENCY CUPCAKE INDUCTION PORT

[chmarr]

xcomcmdr wrote...

Another HUGE plot hole from the ending : On Virmire in ME1, you learn from Sovereign that the Reapers built the Citadel.

So they built the Catalyst, and he built the Reapers ?

Circular reasonning here !

/Good night. ^^

so it is true the catalyst is a lying litle bastard reaper

[Laterali]

So does anyone know how long it would take to get from Earth to Tuchanka using FTL drives?

It'd be interesting to know just how useful FTL drives actually would be if Mass Relays are gone.