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[Ajin]

XX55XX wrote...

Ajin wrote...

albertalad wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

Thane64 wrote...

people are saying the final cutscene doesn't explain alot but a german magazine recently reviewed the game and stated that an 'interesting sequence plays out after the end credits'
This MIGHT show the normandy crew being rescued!

maybe the germans like bad endings.

Well, they did chose Hitler.

Oh, by the maker. Let me reach through the screen and throttle you.
Also, history fail.

Know anything about German parliamentary history?

Hitler might have intimidated the Reichstag by forcing them to pass the Enabling Act, but it was the German people who elected enough ****s to the Reichstag that Hitler could become Chancellor under Hindenberg in the first place. 

Sure, he had support. Less than a third of all voters. And I stress voters, and not the entire country.
Also, it was him bribing Papen that made him chancellor.
So, first, don't lecture me about history, second, don't be a patronizing little **** and third, if you truly wish to discuss WWII, by all means, send me a message. If it makes you feel better.

Modifié par Ajin, 02 mars 2012 - 11:36 .

[AkiKishi]

XX55XX wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

So how badly does Bioware hurt their reputation, as well as their fan base going forward after everyone plays this game and goes through these endings?

You forget that there will be people who will like the endings offered. The fans of BioWare's previous games might be disappointed, though. You are assuming that everyone will be upset by the lack of choices. 

Whether or not you like it , it's still pretty much nonsense.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

*sigh*

[ciaweth]

BioWare forumgoers: Giving BW the excuse it needs to shut threads down since 1867.

[Ajin]

Wonky forum. O.o

Modifié par Ajin, 02 mars 2012 - 11:34 .

[AdhamS]

You see....I always tell my family and friends about that ONE THING that pisses me off more than anything..well...at least after betrayal...RAISING MY EXPECTATIONS AND MOTIVATION SOO DAMN HIGH AND IN THE END YOU SMASH ME! You make me GET WORKED UP AND IN THE END FOR WHAT?!?!?! For NOTHING! FOR AN ENDING THAT SHOWS SHEPARD AS SOME FOLK LEGENDARY MYTH STORY?!?!?! What the hell is this! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!?!

To Bioware, you have THREE DAYS!!!!!! THREE DAYS TILL JUDGEMENT DAY, plz prove to me that I was wrong and I WILL GLADLY WRITE POETRY ABOUT MY FOOLISHNESS AND POST IT ON EVERY GAMING FORUM!

But if you prove to me that I am right...I am speechless.....I dont think I can.....CASEY HUDSON I WISH I CAN GRAB YOU FROM YOUR SHIRT AND ASK YOU WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON?!?!?!!!


Sorry about the caps...it was the only way for me to express the anger I have inside of me...I apologize ladies and gentlemen...

[Abaddon_86]

XX55XX wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

geez now a discussion about Hitler started... 

Taking down democracy like that... Wonder if something like that can happen today.

You really don't follow current American politics, do you?

[cruggero22]

Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.

Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.

[GreenSoda]

Abaddon_86 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

geez now a discussion about Hitler started... 

Taking down democracy like that... Wonder if something like that can happen today.

You really don't follow current American politics, do you?

Santorum won't be president. (And now this thread is derailed).

[Jackal7713]

Abaddon_86 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

geez now a discussion about Hitler started... 

Taking down democracy like that... Wonder if something like that can happen today.

You really don't follow current American politics, do you?

Lets get this back on topic.

Modifié par Jackal7713, 02 mars 2012 - 11:36 .

[Abaddon_86]

ciaweth wrote...

BioWare forumgoers: Giving BW the excuse it needs to shut threads down since 1867.

+1

The WW2 history lessons for people with superficial knowledge should stop RIGHT f*ing NOW!

edit: regarding Santorum/Republicans. I was certainly not referring soley to those two factors.
Just take a closer look at what your current president has been doing since he got elected into office. Especially at what he did on New year's eve.

Modifié par Abaddon_86, 02 mars 2012 - 11:57 .

[Quaay]

I don't care if they want to kill Shepard, quickly or slowly. I do care, however, that they want Shepard to die alone?! If the world is ending don't you want to be surrounded by your friends, family, lover? That's all I ask for. I want to be with my love interest, whether it's in death or stranded on some planet. Would that really have been so hard? Crash the Normandy? Ok, but Shepard better be there with the rest of the crew. Ugh. I know I shouldn't hold onto a tiny sliver of hope that somehow, some random decision I make changes things...

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

cruggero22 wrote...

Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.

Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.

Sure, but it seems we don't get an aftermath grand picture to properly identify what is actually left standing.

Just the Big Ben.

[I_Jedi]

Abaddon_86 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Ajin wrote...

albertalad wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

Thane64 wrote...

people are saying the final cutscene doesn't explain alot but a german magazine recently reviewed the game and stated that an 'interesting sequence plays out after the end credits'
This MIGHT show the normandy crew being rescued!

maybe the germans like bad endings.

Well, they did chose Hitler.

Oh, by the maker. Let me reach through the screen and throttle you.
Also, history fail.

Know anything about German parliamentary history?

Hitler might have intimidated the Reichstag by forcing them to pass the Enabling Act, but it was the German people who elected enough ****s to the Reichstag that Hitler could become Chancellor under Hindenberg in the first place. 

Please, you really don't wanna do this, as I'm actually studying history and I'm very inclined to respond to your very undifferenciated statement. But this is really not the place to discuss such a topic, so don't ignite it any further. I beg of you...

Since the guy at the top of the quote tree didn't state his source so i can google translate it, it could have been from an old WW2 pamphlet which had very good predicting skills except for the endings.

They also like the ME3 endings.

Modifié par I_Jedi, 02 mars 2012 - 11:38 .

[AdhamS]

Yes comparing them to Hitler was probably immature from and I apologize for that...I said it during a moment of madness.....just wait guys till you see me turn green and huge on the 6th of March!

[Ianamus]

cruggero22 wrote...

Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.

Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.

Theres a difference between drama and melodrama, tragedy and wangst. I'd class Mass Effect 3's endings as the latter of each. 

There might only be one solution to all of this: 
http://tvtropes.org/...onDisContinuity 

Modifié par EJ107, 02 mars 2012 - 11:40 .

[Jackal7713]

Quaay wrote...

I don't care if they want to kill Shepard, quickly or slowly. I do care, however, that they want Shepard to die alone?! If the world is ending don't you want to be surrounded by your friends, family, lover? That's all I ask for. I want to be with my love interest, whether it's in death or stranded on some planet. Would that really have been so hard? Crash the Normandy? Ok, but Shepard better be there with the rest of the crew. Ugh. I know I shouldn't hold onto a tiny sliver of hope that somehow, some random decision I make changes things...

Agreed I wouldn't want to die alone. If I'm stranded, I would like to at least be with my LI saying "Well babe, Bioware screwed us, but at least we are together.":D

[XX55XX]

Sure, he had support. Less than a third of all voters. And I stress voters, and not the entire country.
Also, it was him bribing Papen that made him chancellor.
So, first, don't lecture me about history, second, don't be a patronizing little **** and third, if you truly wish to discuss WWIII, by all means, send me a message. If it makes you feel better.

I apologize for being patronizing. But, still, if the ****s did as pathetically in the polls as they did in the 1920s, they would not have been able to get themselves into the position where they could marginalize and negotiate with stakeholders like von Papen and push for power.

However, it's not necessarily the Germans' fault, per se. The Weimar Constitution made the country politically unstable because it fragmented the Reichstag by allowing minority parties seats there, regardless of their share of the vote, and forcing parties into coalitions that continously fell apart, requiring new elections every time it happened. The ****s took advantage of this fragmentary environment to play politics and gain power. But without enough votes, they can't do so, and so it's partially the German people's fault.

But again, it was the Great Depression. Hitler promised them he and his party would make Germany great again. Who could resist that talk?

Modifié par XX55XX, 02 mars 2012 - 11:42 .

[albertalad]

I'm really hoping I'm dead wrong over the endings - maybe a 0.0001% chance of that happening. To me at least, and this perhaps doesn't agree with anyone else, but the presented ending are flat out lazy writing, dumb lazy effort then going to cut scenes and even more ridiculous cut scenes saying we don't give a damn BUT here's Joker with his computer girlfriend and OH BTW we dump them somewhere we don't even know ourselves.

[The_Crazy_Hand]

Aesieru wrote...

Anyway... comparing BioWare to Hitler is just immature.

I completely agree.  Hitler was a very bad person, and a 
tyrant (though no more bigotted than anyone else of his time).  However, comparing him to something just plain evil such as Bioware, is indeed immature, and not the proper way to show that he wasn't a good person.

[Reapinger]

My goodness stop with the historical references.

I just want to be able to play the game on that save after the epilogue.

That's it.

[Melra]

XX55XX wrote...

Sure, he had support. Less than a third of all voters. And I stress voters, and not the entire country.
Also, it was him bribing Papen that made him chancellor.
So, first, don't lecture me about history, second, don't be a patronizing little **** and third, if you truly wish to discuss WWIII, by all means, send me a message. If it makes you feel better.

I apologize for being patronizing. But, still, if the ****s did as pathetically in the polls as they did in the 1920s, they would not have been able to get themselves into the position where they could marginalize and negotiate with stakeholders like von Papen and push for power.

However, it's not necessarily the Germans' fault, per se. The Weimar Constitution made the country politically unstable because it fragmented the Reichstag by allowing minority parties seats there, regardless of their share of the vote, and forcing parties into coalitions that continously fell apart, requiring new elections every time it happened. The ****s took advantage of this fragmentary environment to play politics and gain power. But without enough votes, they can't do so, and so it's partially the German people's fault.

But again, it was the Great Depression. Hitler promised them he and his party would make Germany great again. Who could resist that talk?

How tha frak does this have to do with the thread's topic? Take it to PMs.

[Whatever42]

The thread was Godwin'd? Why? For the love that all that's pure and good in the world, why?!?!?

[recentio]

cruggero22 wrote...

Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.

Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.

That justifies the inclusion of a grimdark ending. But it doesn't justify the *exclusion* of an alternative, still dark ending where Shep and his LI/crew aren't forced to separate for all time.