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#8401
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[quote]EJ107 wrote...
This. This is exactly what I wanted.[/quote]

Yes! Just like DA:O endings. Vague as it was I did think that they handled it very well, and it tied everything together nicely. 

...What could have been :(

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Absolutely!  The end of DA:O where people ask what you plan to do and I tell them go find Morrigan, I loved that.  How much I would have loved it if at the end of ME3 Anderson asks you what you plan to do and you answer settle down with the LI.  So easy to do, yet not done.

The harder these guys get pressed on "WTF with the ending", the more you can expect to see the defend it as "art" or "wanted to be dramatic".  That's the only plausible defense they can make, anything else would be to admit to a lack of creativity, pure laziness or focusing on aspects to try and draw a new crowd (like multiplayer) instead of making the single player core game better.

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The_Crazy_Hand wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Anyway... comparing BioWare to Hitler is just immature.


I completely agree.  Hitler was a very bad person, and a 
tyrant (though no more bigotted than anyone else of his time).  However, comparing him to something just plain evil such as Bioware, is indeed immature, and not the proper way to show that he wasn't a good person.



Go up and check my reply ;)

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The thread was Godwin'd? Why? For the love that all that's pure and good in the world, why?!?!?


Somebody mentioned a German games magazine...

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Abaddon_86 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The thread was Godwin'd? Why? For the love that all that's pure and good in the world, why?!?!?


Somebody mentioned a German games magazine...


And a debate about how the ****s gained power began. 

It wasn't necessarily the German people's fault, since not everyone supported Hitler, but I personally blame the way the seats were allocated in the Reichstag caused the political instability that allowed Hiter and his party to rule in the first place. That, and enough people voted for Hitler.

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#8405
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Abaddon_86 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The thread was Godwin'd? Why? For the love that all that's pure and good in the world, why?!?!?


Somebody mentioned a German games magazine...


And naturally, ****s and Hitler soon followed. We've come full circle.

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Abaddon_86 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The thread was Godwin'd? Why? For the love that all that's pure and good in the world, why?!?!?


Somebody mentioned a German games magazine...


he meant this

First review from German PC Magazine Gamestar Surfaces

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Abaddon_86 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The thread was Godwin'd? Why? For the love that all that's pure and good in the world, why?!?!?


Somebody mentioned a German games magazine...


And naturally, ****s and Hitler soon followed. We've come full circle.


I love this discussion about Weimar politics, though. How off-topic we've come.

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THE ONLY REASON- I think- we are now talking about History is because we are trying to forget about THE CRAP WE WILL HAVE TO ENDURE ON THE 6TH OF MARCH (I hope I am wrong!).


Need to take anger management session!

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Abaddon_86 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The thread was Godwin'd? Why? For the love that all that's pure and good in the world, why?!?!?


Somebody mentioned a German games magazine...


And naturally, ****s and Hitler soon followed. We've come full circle.


There are some laws on the internet that always apply, it seems. <_<

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LMAO - right, great writing - well, not in this universe. Want tragedy? Turn on the news. Moreover, I got that covered here in real life. No need for me to pay for that. Of course BW can try the artsy ending claim - heck it doesn't even qualify for that. That's just plain lazy writing reduced to idiotic cut scenes.

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Looked at several excerpts of the supposed script(s). 1.) Too many inconsistencies. 2.) Poor formatting. 3.) There were several variations. To surmise, what I saw looked as though they could have been rough drafts, certainly not finalized. In my opinion, this is all an elaborate hoax.

Modifié par cruggero22, 02 mars 2012 - 11:53 .


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AdhamS wrote...

THE ONLY REASON- I think- we are now talking about History is because we are trying to forget about THE CRAP WE WILL HAVE TO ENDURE ON THE 6TH OF MARCH (I hope I am wrong!).


Need to take anger management session!


Or for those of us who've cancelled, the crap well be avoiding on 3/6.

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So people here are still upset about the open endings? (assuming that the leaked endings is indeed true and correct)

To me, it seems like people are upset because either Shepard ends up alone or the crew on the Normandy ends up alone and we do not know what is happening to them; they are, in other words, gone. Just like the Warden in DA:O or The Hero of Ferelden in DA2.

It seems to me that many people (most people) want some sort of happy ending where Shepard is with his crew? Or with his Love Interest (LI)? But judging from the trailers, Bioware have shown us, most recently the launch 2:44 minute trailer released earlier today, I can tell that the ending for this game - and maybe for the universe - and Earth as well - does not bode well. Reapers all over the place - this foreshadows (predicts sort of) dark, sinister, sad endings as the only way to stop the Reaper attack seem to be to stop them doing what they've have been doing every 50,000 year untill now. (which is middle in the 21st or 22nd century).

Shepard needs to stop the Reapers and he does it by any means necessary - even if it means going up against the Reapers alone, it seems. But still, the game ends with open endings....

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Ah, yes. Hitler.

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cruggero22 wrote...

Looked at several excerpts of the supposed script(s). 1.) Too many inconsistencies. 2.) Poor formatting. 3.) There were several variations. To surmise, what I saw looked as though they could have been rough drafts, certainly not finalized. In my opinion, this is all an elaborate hoax.

See this thread.

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I'm waiting for the "Hitler reacts to ME3 endings" on youtube.

Melodies of life is very calming



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CerberusSoldier wrote...

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Given the whole "TAKE BACK EARTH" marketing scheme, I find it pretty lame that you're basically hitting some switch and destroying all the Reapers.

I want there to be an actual Fight, I want endings like:
1. (best ending) Discovery leads to completely demolishing the Reapers with a moderate amount of difficulty. It takes decades to rebuild, but the Reapers are gone and the races of the Galaxy find some sort of unity and the Galactic community becomes stronger and better than ever.
2. Reapers defeated, some races extinct based on Shepard's decisions. Overall relations between Humanity and other species unchanged, some species more trusting of Humans & some less trusting.
3. Same as 2, but humans basically take control of the Galaxy and run it their way.
4. Reapers defeated, humanity left alone in the Galaxy. Depending on Shepard's decisions Humanity unites to try to recover what they once had, or utter chaos and humanity is on a path of self-destruction.
5. Reapers defeated, humans extinct & the other races survive. Shepard's efforts to destroy the Reapers and take back Earth fail, but are not in vain as the other races unite to defeat the Reapers once and for all using data that Shepard sent to the Council before launching his failed attack.
6. Reapers win, but information is left behind to warn future civilizations of the Reapers before hand and possibly stop them.
7. (Worst Ending) Reapers win, cycle of extinction continues.

^And variations thereof

   




The reapers win in the end anyway . there was no war or saving Earth . It was huge lie by Bioware


Apparently so...I was hoping for an actual battle to take back control of the Galaxy not some "magic button". 

I guess the question "Are you going to have anymore games based in the Mass Effect universe after ME3?" has been answered by the revalation that the Reapers might as well have never existed along with the rest of the ME universe.

I'm all for an ending where the Galaxy is in shambles, but there needs to be that feeling where the shear death & destruction was worth something. Once everyone mourns the dead they turn to rebuilding & try to return to some sort of normalcy, don't just destroy the Mass Relays and turn everyone back to being stranded into their own solar systems and star clusters.

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cruggero22 wrote...

Looked at several excepts of the supposed script(s). 1.) Too many inconsistencies. 2.) Poor formatting. 3.) There were several variations. To surmise, what I saw looked as though they could have been rough drafts, certainly not finalized. In my opinion, this is all an elaborate hoax.


You are as denialistic about this as von Papen was in his ability to control Hitler and regain the chancellorship. Which he never did, and ended up becoming an obscure diplomat during the **** era. 

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You know who else didn't like Mass Effect 3's ending?

HITLER

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cruggero22 wrote...

Looked at several excerpts of the supposed script(s). 1.) Too many inconsistencies. 2.) Poor formatting. 3.) There were several variations. To surmise, what I saw looked as though they could have been rough drafts, certainly not finalized. In my opinion, this is all an elaborate hoax.


Good god, man, Xio has taken pictures of the end on his TV and posted them for us. There is no hoax. 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Here we go

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cruggero22 wrote...

Just read the bit about the lead writers leaving the game in the hands of others. Obviously that isn't great if you're aiming for continuity. And if the newly acquired writers aren't willing to place their egos aside and do their homework, studying up on the plot, then you've created a damaging situation.


Sounds like the comic book industry. 

I gave up on most comics, too, for the reasons.

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Abaddon_86 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Abaddon_86 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

The thread was Godwin'd? Why? For the love that all that's pure and good in the world, why?!?!?


Somebody mentioned a German games magazine...


And naturally, ****s and Hitler soon followed. We've come full circle.


There are some laws on the internet that always apply, it seems. <_<


The amazing thing isn't that this thread was Godwinned, it was that it lasted over 300 pages before it happened.

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Capeo wrote...

cruggero22 wrote...

Looked at several excerpts of the supposed script(s). 1.) Too many inconsistencies. 2.) Poor formatting. 3.) There were several variations. To surmise, what I saw looked as though they could have been rough drafts, certainly not finalized. In my opinion, this is all an elaborate hoax.


Good god, man, Xio has taken pictures of the end on his TV and posted them for us. There is no hoax. 


Well, if it was one, then I can only speak volumes about how elaborate it all was. 

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Aesieru wrote...

Actually, in business the customers always right thing is more an ideal, not the reality. A lot of times the investors and backers and financial supporters and higher-up's are the real determinator.


And quite often they're wrong and the customer is right.