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eye basher wrote...
Die Varieties wrote...
Shockwave81 wrote...
How suitably and sweetly ironic that a series about choice should ultimately end by taking it away...
A lot has been said in this thread and more will be said. But your eloguent statement really caused me to pause and think -- wow, just wow!
If ME actually had any real choices to begin with it would be but since it's just an illusion of choice no it ain't.
wolf99000 wrote...
cruggero22 wrote...
Just out of curiosity, did anyone get the inclination that peace between the Geth (the non-fanatics) and the Quarians was a possibility, in ME3, from ME2? Think about it. If the "stars align" and you made more of the best of possible choices, uniting the majority of the galaxy (Geth and their awesome ships included), then it is possible to achieve a "truer" sense of victory at the end. At least that is what I might expect.
well if tali could get on with legion after she stopped short of killing him I think there was a shot at peace
Guest_Sparatus_*
Karrie788 wrote...
Oh God, enough about Hitler already!
Get out of here Muscle Man.Sparatus wrote...
Karrie788 wrote...
Oh God, enough about Hitler already!
You know who else gets tired of hearing about Hitler?
MY MOM!
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
Sparatus wrote...
You should all really be ashamed of yourself about bringing Hitler into an argument about a videogame that has a race of blue space lesbians.
magic blue space lesbians.
aries1001 wrote...
Linguage wise the word 'interesting' means something else in German that it does in English or even Danish. It means more like a good or distinct scene after the credits. As for the discussion about Hitler, please let this dicussion lie. However, I'll say this: Not all Germans voted for Hitler. How Hitler - and his party - managed to come power in Germany is a very long discussion not suited for a forum where political discussions are not allowed.
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EJ107 wrote...
cruggero22 wrote...
Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.
Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.
Theres a difference between drama and melodrama, tragedy and wangst. I'd class Mass Effect 3's endings as the latter of each.
Sparatus wrote...
Karrie788 wrote...
Oh God, enough about Hitler already!
You know who else gets tired of hearing about Hitler?
MY MOM!
RazorrX wrote...
Not only can you get the geth and quarians to have peace, but the geth actually start helping the quarians to adapt out of the vac suits.
Elegana wrote...
Honestly, is it even possible to reach 5000 EMS? It seems impossible to even reach 10,000 EMS with the war assets...
JBurnes3 wrote...
CerberusSoldier wrote...
JBurnes3 wrote...
Given the whole "TAKE BACK EARTH" marketing scheme, I find it pretty lame that you're basically hitting some switch and destroying all the Reapers.
I want there to be an actual Fight, I want endings like:
1. (best ending) Discovery leads to completely demolishing the Reapers with a moderate amount of difficulty. It takes decades to rebuild, but the Reapers are gone and the races of the Galaxy find some sort of unity and the Galactic community becomes stronger and better than ever.
2. Reapers defeated, some races extinct based on Shepard's decisions. Overall relations between Humanity and other species unchanged, some species more trusting of Humans & some less trusting.
3. Same as 2, but humans basically take control of the Galaxy and run it their way.
4. Reapers defeated, humanity left alone in the Galaxy. Depending on Shepard's decisions Humanity unites to try to recover what they once had, or utter chaos and humanity is on a path of self-destruction.
5. Reapers defeated, humans extinct & the other races survive. Shepard's efforts to destroy the Reapers and take back Earth fail, but are not in vain as the other races unite to defeat the Reapers once and for all using data that Shepard sent to the Council before launching his failed attack.
6. Reapers win, but information is left behind to warn future civilizations of the Reapers before hand and possibly stop them.
7. (Worst Ending) Reapers win, cycle of extinction continues.
^And variations thereof
The reapers win in the end anyway . there was no war or saving Earth . It was huge lie by Bioware
Apparently so...I was hoping for an actual battle to take back control of the Galaxy not some "magic button".
I guess the question "Are you going to have anymore games based in the Mass Effect universe after ME3?" has been answered by the revalation that the Reapers might as well have never existed along with the rest of the ME universe.
I'm all for an ending where the Galaxy is in shambles, but there needs to be that feeling where the shear death & destruction was worth something. Once everyone mourns the dead they turn to rebuilding & try to return to some sort of normalcy, don't just destroy the Mass Relays and turn everyone back to being stranded into their own solar systems and star clusters.
ratzerman wrote...
You folks realize that you've given Woo and Priestly more than enough reason to lock this thread, right?
XX55XX wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
You folks realize that you've given Woo and Priestly more than enough reason to lock this thread, right?
I love Weimar Germany. And Mass Effect.
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XX55XX wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
You folks realize that you've given Woo and Priestly more than enough reason to lock this thread, right?
I love Weimar Germany. And Mass Effect.
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
EJ107 wrote...
cruggero22 wrote...
Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.
Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.
Theres a difference between drama and melodrama, tragedy and wangst. I'd class Mass Effect 3's endings as the latter of each.
Exactly.
And what we don't need is this nonsense about needing to lose things to appreciate them.
RazorrX wrote...
aries1001 wrote...
So people here are still upset about the open endings? (assuming that the leaked endings is indeed true and correct)
To me, it seems like people are upset because either Shepard ends up alone or the crew on the Normandy ends up alone and we do not know what is happening to them; they are, in other words, gone. Just like the Warden in DA:O or The Hero of Ferelden in DA2.
It seems to me that many people (most people) want some sort of happy ending where Shepard is with his crew? Or with his Love Interest (LI)? But judging from the trailers, Bioware have shown us, most recently the launch 2:44 minute trailer released earlier today, I can tell that the ending for this game - and maybe for the universe - and Earth as well - does not bode well. Reapers all over the place - this foreshadows (predicts sort of) dark, sinister, sad endings as the only way to stop the Reaper attack seem to be to stop them doing what they've have been doing every 50,000 year untill now. (which is middle in the 21st or 22nd century).
Shepard needs to stop the Reapers and he does it by any means necessary - even if it means going up against the Reapers alone, it seems. But still, the game ends with open endings....
Just to throw this out to you...
In ME 1 we learned that the way the Reapers have always won is they jump to the Citadel - shut down all mass relays, pull the information on what systems are inhabited, where the largest populatins, etc. are and then attack 1 system at a time. This is an attack on 1 isolated system. In other words, they have never and I mean NEVER taken on a unified force before. They always isolate and then fight.
The Protheans altered the Keepers to the point that the Reapers did not and can not repeat that attack plan. The relays are active, the citadel is secured, and the Reapers do not have the full intelligence on enemy population and strength.
In ME 2 we have learned that not only do we have better hull armor and shields that can take a reaper powered blast - but we actually now have reaper strength weapons. The Turians managed to reverse engineer the main weapons from the wreckage on the Citadel.
Thus we have what the Reapers have never faced before: A unified attack, with Millions of ships. Ships with the same weapons that the Reapers have, and nearly equivalent shields and armor. We can have Millions of Geth hacking the Reapers as the fleet blasts them, etc. Never in history have the reapers ever faced this.
Why does this suddenly equal "There is no hope but total galaxy wide devestation and the death of Shepard and his crew"?
The fact is - there should very well be a 'golden path' playthrough were not only do you win (and at high cost of assets, planets, etc. ) but that you and your crew could very well be together and actually have a party for how the war has been won. Now that is not to say that the ONLY ending be that way, nor that it should be easy to get that ending.
mass_zotz wrote...
XX55XX wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
You folks realize that you've given Woo and Priestly more than enough reason to lock this thread, right?
I love Weimar Germany. And Mass Effect.
Why are we talking about Germany?
cruggero22 wrote...
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
EJ107 wrote...
cruggero22 wrote...
Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.
Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.
Theres a difference between drama and melodrama, tragedy and wangst. I'd class Mass Effect 3's endings as the latter of each.
Exactly.
And what we don't need is this nonsense about needing to lose things to appreciate them.
Of course not. I didn't mean to suggest it as fact. But I do believe that some things, since we're trying to sustain some type of realism, are going to be outside your control, no matter what choices you make.
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