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[Major Swift]

im just going to wait until i see what they do with this extended cut before i pass judgement on it, it has potential to either be good or a wreck

[g_bassi13]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Fair enough, I also belive that some things like the godchild could be propperly explained by the DLC in some form without "Changing the endings".

People like the example of FO3 broken steel changing the ending, but if we applied what some are asking for here to that, then they would not have changed the last mission so you could send a companion who was immune to radiation, they would have just cut that mission from the game completely, but they found a way to work in their change into the existing parameters.

Who the bloody hell wants to have the god child explained? Is that what anyone is looking for? 

Also, re: Fallout, the difference is that there was one aspect of the ending that ruined it, not a hundred or so like ME3. The makers realized that forcing their idea of having the hero die was one that the fans didn't want, so they changed it. They pretty much said the fans were right.

Bioware on the other hand has given us nothing thus far to work with. Just BS PR talk, and lots of it.

edit: sorry for the grumpy tone. Wasn't meant to be antagonistic, or anything.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 15 avril 2012 - 10:45 .

[Computim]

Major Swift wrote...

im just going to wait until i see what they do with this extended cut before i pass judgement on it, it has potential to either be good or a wreck

We should begin plans for a continuity of civillization in case things go south.  I recommend we start by placing our heads between our legs and kissing our butts goodbye.

[Darth Garrus]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

Exactly. Just forcing a reunion with the crew within the current ending isn't good enough. It's BS. How is it a comprimise?

You seem to forget that a comprimise by its nature never makes any side happy

Indeed. But the only problem is: it can't be a compromise if you are not giving up anything. If they just give us an explanation, they didn't give up the endings that were the problem in the first place. So, the "compromise" they are saying is just a PR cleverly designed name for something we don't want, but they want to show the media that they did what we wanted.

After that, they can bring out strategy number 2, and say "some people are never happy". When they knew no one would be happy with their convenient "compromise" (if we are talking about the "explanation").

[BigglesFlysAgain]

g_bassi13 wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Fair enough, I also belive that some things like the godchild could be propperly explained by the DLC in some form without "Changing the endings".

People like the example of FO3 broken steel changing the ending, but if we applied what some are asking for here to that, then they would not have changed the last mission so you could send a companion who was immune to radiation, they would have just cut that mission from the game completely, but they found a way to work in their change into the existing parameters.

Who the bloody hell wants to have the god child explained? Is that what anyone is looking for? 

Also, re: Fallout, the difference is that there was one aspect of the ending that was ruined, not around a hundred like ME3. The makers realized that forcing their idea of having the hero die was one that the fans didn't want, so they changed it. They pretty much said the fans were right.

Bioware on the other hand has given us nothing thus far to work with. Just BS PR talk, and lots of it.

It could be terrible, it could be shome ****ty naration over a cutscene, it could be ok. The best we can hope for is that we are relived its not bad. Obviously as you said digging new holes to fix the current ones or saying "you saw wrong" to facilitate everyone not being dead or stranded would be terrible, I just have optimism that within the parameters of what they have said they can do they could make things O.K

[Cecilia L]

Koobarex wrote...

Episode 17 of my MS comic now up! Hope you'll enjoy it, was supposed to be done on friday evening but life intervened. x)

Marauder Shields: Shepard's Last Foe
EPISODE 17: Believe

In this one... Joker is a leaf on the wind. Watch how he soars. Suggested background music: "Sky Titans" by  Two Steps From Hell. And yes, it's supposed to be a bit uplifting.

 Open the full version here: EPISODE 17 (DA link)

All previous episodes are available at my DA profile: http://koobismo.deviantart.com - if you like any of my comics, be sure to come along and say "hi", share your thoughts, opinions, ideas, I love all kinds of feedback.

Always remember that the official Marauder Shields policy is: no fan left behind. Spread these comics around, post them at social sites, let's make a difference!

And as always... HOLD THE LINE!

Thank you so much!

I love your MS comics. Lots of love and support to your fantastic art and story of our great savior Marauder Shields!

[isig]

Koobarex wrote...
*snip* Open the full version here: EPISODE 17 (DA link)

All previous episodes are available at my DA profile: http://koobismo.deviantart.com *snip*

Koobarex, I just have to say, the comics you make have gotten to the point of such perfection that they're better than what we witnessed playout in the game, heh.



p.s. sorry, crappy english due to sleepyness..

[Computim]

Koobarex wrote...
*snip* Open the full version here: EPISODE 17 (DA link)

All previous episodes are available at my DA profile: http://koobismo.deviantart.com *snip*

Amazing!  I love the Firefly drop there 

SO much better than the ending

[Cecilia L]

isig wrote...

Koobarex wrote...
*snip* Open the full version here: EPISODE 17 (DA link)

All previous episodes are available at my DA profile: http://koobismo.deviantart.com *snip*

Koobarex, I just have to say, the comics you make have gotten to the point of such perfection that they're better than what we witnessed playout in the game, heh.



p.s. sorry, crappy english due to sleepyness..

 Are you kidding? The Marauder Shields comics can't even be compared to the real ending (yes, ending should indeed be in singular).

[Darth Garrus]

I'll be back, my friends.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Darth Suetam wrote...

I'll be back, my friends.

We better run away from our desks!

[isig]

Cecilia L wrote...
 Are you kidding? The Marauder Shields comics can't even be compared to the real ending (yes, ending should indeed be in singular).

Uhm, I wasn't comparing it to the ending? Like, at all.   It was meant as a compliment, as in he got the feeling (of the good part of the game, obviously) just right, and every character remained perfectly in character.. or you know, whatever. Sorry if I insulted anyone? (though I'm not sure how, even though english is not my native language)

[Matt_gekko88]

I want a cupcake ._.
A blue one.

[g_bassi13]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

It could be terrible, it could be shome ****ty naration over a cutscene, it could be ok. The best we can hope for is that we are relived its not bad. Obviously as you said digging new holes to fix the current ones or saying "you saw wrong" to facilitate everyone not being dead or stranded would be terrible, I just have optimism that within the parameters of what they have said they can do they could make things O.K

What I don't want is explanations for why things sucked. I don't want to hear:

Joker and the crew abandoned you because *insert excuse here*

The relays didn't go supernova because *insert excuse here* 

The relays are going to be rebuilt becuase *insert excuse here* 

The galactic armada stranded on earth never starved because *insert excuse here* 

Everyone managed to end up back at their home planet because *insert excuse here* 

Most people on the citadel managed to survive because *insert excuse here* 

The Catalyst exists because *insert excuse here* 

Space-Magic is scientifically and logically explained by *insert excuse here* 

Shepard is actually alive because  *insert excuse here* 

Shepard manages to reunite with the crew because  *insert excuse here* 



That's not what I'm looking for, yet I feel that's exactly all we're going to get, nothing more. I can fill in all those blanks by myself. That's easy. And it sucks. It's BS. What I want is some actual effort from them put into fixing the ending. We won't get that though.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 15 avril 2012 - 11:02 .

[Computim]

isig wrote...

Cecilia L wrote...
 Are you kidding? The Marauder Shields comics can't even be compared to the real ending (yes, ending should indeed be in singular).

Uhm, I wasn't comparing it to the ending? Like, at all.   It was meant as a compliment, as in he got the feeling (of the good part of the game, obviously) just right, and every character remained perfectly in character.. or you know, whatever. Sorry if I insulted anyone? (though I'm not sure how, even though english is not my native language)

No worries!  I don't think she was actually upset, I got a bit of sarcasm like "Marauder Shields is WAY better than the ending" and so couldn't be compared because it's SO good. 

[-PG-Skyre]

isig wrote...
Uhm, I wasn't comparing it to the ending? Like, at all.   It was meant as a compliment, as in he got the feeling (of the good part of the game, obviously) just right, and every character remained perfectly in character.. or you know, whatever. Sorry if I insulted anyone? (though I'm not sure how, even though english is not my native language)

I havent read your post, since I've only just woken up...but Im sure it is just a misunderstanding
Dont worry yourself too much over it.

Also, good morning/afternoon/evening to you all. How is everything?

[BigglesFlysAgain]

g_bassi13 wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

It could be terrible, it could be shome ****ty naration over a cutscene, it could be ok. The best we can hope for is that we are relived its not bad. Obviously as you said digging new holes to fix the current ones or saying "you saw wrong" to facilitate everyone not being dead or stranded would be terrible, I just have optimism that within the parameters of what they have said they can do they could make things O.K

What I don't want is explanations for why things sucked. I don't want to hear:

Joker and the crew abandoned you because *insert excuse here*

The relays didn't go supernova because 
*insert excuse here* 

The relays are going to be rebuilt becuase 
*insert excuse here* 

The galactic armada stranded on earth never starved because 
*insert excuse here* 

Everyone managed to end up back at their home planet because 
*insert excuse here* 

Most people on the citadel managed to survive because 
*insert excuse here* 

The Catalyst exists because 
*insert excuse here* 

Space-Magic is scientifically and logically explained by 
*insert excuse here* 

Shepard is actually alive because  *insert excuse here* 

Shepard manages to reunite with the crew because  *insert excuse here* 



That's not what I'm looking for, yet I feel that's exactly what we're going to get. I can fill in all those blanks by myself. That's easy. And it sucks. What I want is some actual effort from them put into fixing the ending.

Well you may be dissapointed by whatever they do then . The two groups that will hate somthing like that will be strange people who liked the ending, who will go "well I can't use my imaginaton now" and people who want a completely new resolution to the reaper war, with a new final confrontation and a new aftermarth, I assume you would fit the second group.

My own opinion? well a positve explanation could be good, a new ending would be better, but I respect that people can have different feelings

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 15 avril 2012 - 11:05 .

[Major Swift]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

I want a cupcake ._.
A blue one.

here take one! http://www.iansmartp...s/Blue Cupcakes

[isig]

Computim wrote...
No worries!  I don't think she was actually upset, I got a bit of sarcasm like "Marauder Shields is WAY better than the ending" and so couldn't be compared because it's SO good. 

Ah, well, this late at night I'm in no state to register sarcasm correctly... 

*collapses*

Modifié par isig, 15 avril 2012 - 11:06 .

[Oldbones2]

g_bassi13 wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

It could be terrible, it could be shome ****ty naration over a cutscene, it could be ok. The best we can hope for is that we are relived its not bad. Obviously as you said digging new holes to fix the current ones or saying "you saw wrong" to facilitate everyone not being dead or stranded would be terrible, I just have optimism that within the parameters of what they have said they can do they could make things O.K

What I don't want is explanations for why things sucked. I don't want to hear:

Joker and the crew abandoned you because *insert excuse here*

The relays didn't go supernova because *insert excuse here* 

The relays are going to be rebuilt becuase *insert excuse here* 

The galactic armada stranded on earth never starved because *insert excuse here* 

Everyone managed to end up back at their home planet because *insert excuse here* 

Most people on the citadel managed to survive because *insert excuse here* 

The Catalyst exists because *insert excuse here* 

Space-Magic is scientifically and logically explained by *insert excuse here* 

Shepard is actually alive because  *insert excuse here* 

Shepard manages to reunite with the crew because  *insert excuse here* 



That's not what I'm looking for, yet I feel that's exactly all we're going to get, nothing more. I can fill in all those blanks by myself. That's easy. And it sucks. It's BS. What I want is some actual effort from them put into fixing the ending. We won't get that though.

Yeah, great list.


Thing is the ending is potent as it is.

Granted its a terrible potency that makes me sick and ashamed.  But it still has all of this sort of terrible finality.

And as much as the team murders its own lore and logic, there are still some things that are kept in line.


But if they go back and say, its not that bad because this and this and this (even though it goes against the lore), then it will take away from the tiny bit of value the ending still has. 

As much as I hate the ending, I can say this about it,  It is ****ing bold as hell.  Nearly everone dies, galaxy is going to a dark age, nothing matters.

Thus clarification (and chickening out) is going to actually make the ending even weaker.


Please someone stop Bioware, somehow.

[toffeetrooper]

gnight line holders

[Major Swift]

g_bassi13 wrote...
What I don't want is explanations for why things sucked. I don't want to hear:

Joker and the crew abandoned you because *insert excuse here*

The relays didn't go supernova because *insert excuse here* 

The relays are going to be rebuilt becuase *insert excuse here* 

The galactic armada stranded on earth never starved because *insert excuse here* 

Everyone managed to end up back at their home planet because *insert excuse here* 

Most people on the citadel managed to survive because *insert excuse here* 

The Catalyst exists because *insert excuse here* 

Space-Magic is scientifically and logically explained by *insert excuse here* 

Shepard is actually alive because  *insert excuse here* 

Shepard manages to reunite with the crew because  *insert excuse here* 

can insert space magic for all of those, even whats in bold lol

[g_bassi13]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...
Well you may be dissapointed by whatever they do then . The two groups that will hate somthing like that will be strange people who liked the ending, who will go "well I can't use my imaginaton now" and people who want a completely new resolution to the reaper war, with a new final confrontation and a new aftermarth, I assume you would fit the second group.

My own opinion? well a positve explanation could be good, a new ending would be better, but I respect that people can have different feelings

I would like a happy ending, but I'd like it to come along with a sense of satisfaction. It the endings remain as is, the satisfaction won't come in. The ending is completely broken, and simply retconning the consequences of the Destroy option and exploiting the "Shepard breathes" easter egg does nothing to fix it. I don't want hear their excuses, the ones that they're making up as we speak.

If all you're looking for is a happy ending whatever way you can take it, something tells me you'll be very happy when this DLC comes out.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 15 avril 2012 - 11:13 .

[Koobarex]

isig wrote...

Koobarex wrote...
*snip* Open the full version here: EPISODE 17 (DA link)

All previous episodes are available at my DA profile: http://koobismo.deviantart.com *snip*

Koobarex, I just have to say, the comics you make have gotten to the point of such perfection that they're better than what we witnessed playout in the game, heh.
p.s. sorry, crappy english due to sleepyness.. 

@Cecilia L @Isig @Computim

Thank you, guys!

No worries, Isig, I'm not a native speaker myself, I know what being sleepy can make to a man's/woman's usage of English...

[-PG-Skyre]

toffeetrooper wrote...

gnight line holders

Night mate, see ya next time