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DJBare wrote...

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No since they would still have free will. But it doesn't mean you didn't pull a galactic size genetic molestation, through a method that doesn't make a lick of sense in the first place. (what the bloody hell is robot DNA?)

We don't even know that since the Reapers and Keepers had a controller, starbrat.


You just set a lightbulb off in my head and so I went through my codex on ME2.  If you help the dudes scan the keepers you get a message: 

"they were engineered millions of years ago... by the same people who made Sovereign!"

People.. not AI kid.  PEOPLE. *cries* :crying:

Edit: Better Tami? :innocent:

Modifié par Computim, 16 avril 2012 - 01:48 .


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TamiBx wrote...

 I have a question. If we picked green ending, does that mean humans would be like the Keepers on the Citadel now? :huh:


Since we still don't know what precisely the Keepers are, I doubt it.

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Episode 17 of my MS comic now up! Hope you'll enjoy it, was supposed to be done on friday evening but life intervened. x)

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Amazing once again!  Nice firefly drop in as well!

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Computim wrote...

You just set a lightbulb off in my head and so I went through my codex on ME2.  If you help the dudes scan the keepers you get a message: 

"they were engineered millions of years ago... by the same people who made Sovereign!"

People.. not AI kid.  PEOPLE. *cries* :crying:

Edit: Better Tami? :innocent:

where/when do you get that? i helped them scan them and i only got a message talking about how the cycle was going to start soon or something/something to do with the signal they receive

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Major Swift wrote...

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No since they would still have free will. But it doesn't mean you didn't pull a galactic size genetic molestation, through a method that doesn't make a lick of sense in the first place. (what the bloody hell is robot DNA?)

i still haven't been able to come up with one possible positive thing for the green ending, its all bs/evil, least with the other 2 there are certain things you can look at and say "well that might possibly be good"

I'm pretty sure Bioware intended for that to be the least evil choice. The "stop the reaper cycle once and for all" choice that also prevents a synthetic uprising from ever occuring again... Except it doesn't. All it does is unwillingly turn everyone in the galaxy into some undefinable cyborg. It does not prevent these new cyborgs from eventually creating their own servent synthertic AI's which will predictably rebel.

To say the Reapers' plan makes zero sense is an understatement. They are essentially working against themselves.

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Major Swift wrote...

Computim wrote...

You just set a lightbulb off in my head and so I went through my codex on ME2.  If you help the dudes scan the keepers you get a message: 

"they were engineered millions of years ago... by the same people who made Sovereign!"

People.. not AI kid.  PEOPLE. *cries* :crying:

Edit: Better Tami? :innocent:

where/when do you get that? i helped them scan them and i only got a message talking about how the cycle was going to start soon or something/something to do with the signal they receive


It's actually in the ME2 codex, not the ME1 one.   Just found it on ME Wiki too: http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Keeper - Sheds a bit more light on Tami's question too =]

Edit: I Think it was a private terminal message that you get but it adds a codex entry.

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g_bassi13 wrote...

I'm pretty sure Bioware intended for that to be the least evil choice. The "stop the reaper cycle once and for all" choice that also prevents a synthetic uprising from ever occuring again... Except it doesn't. All it does is unwillingly turn everyone in the galaxy into some undefinable cyborg. It does not prevent these new cyborgs from eventually creating their own servent synthertic AI's which will predictably rebel.

To say the Reapers' plan makes zero sense is an understatement. They are essentially working against themselves.

hell i should have just saved some time and joined saren back in ME1 then if this was the "best choice".....<_<

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Bruinbear wrote...

Koobarex wrote...

Episode 17 of my MS comic now up! Hope you'll enjoy it, was supposed to be done on friday evening but life intervened. x)

Marauder Shields: Shepard's Last Foe
EPISODE 17: Believe

In this one... Joker is a leaf on the wind. Watch how he soars. Suggested background music: "Sky Titans" by  Two Steps From Hell. And yes, it's supposed to be a bit uplifting.

 Open the full version here: EPISODE 17 (DA link)

All previous episodes are available at my DA profile: http://koobismo.deviantart.com - if you like any of my comics, be sure to come along and say "hi", share your thoughts, opinions, ideas, I love all kinds of feedback. :)

Always remember that the official Marauder Shields policy is: no fan left behind. :) Spread these comics around, post them at social sites, let's make a difference!

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Amazing once again!  Nice firefly drop in as well!


There's also a Star Wars reference, too (as in, SW did it first!).

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Computim wrote...

You just set a lightbulb off in my head and so I went through my codex on ME2.  If you help the dudes scan the keepers you get a message: 

"they were engineered millions of years ago... by the same people who made Sovereign!"

People.. not AI kid.  PEOPLE. *cries* :crying:

Edit: Better Tami? :innocent:


Wait...wait, what? :blink:
They were made my people? What? 


*sorry, I'm a little out of it. I've been sitting in a meeting for the past 3hrs and I'm starving*

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Major Swift wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

I'm pretty sure Bioware intended for that to be the least evil choice. The "stop the reaper cycle once and for all" choice that also prevents a synthetic uprising from ever occuring again... Except it doesn't. All it does is unwillingly turn everyone in the galaxy into some undefinable cyborg. It does not prevent these new cyborgs from eventually creating their own servent synthertic AI's which will predictably rebel.

To say the Reapers' plan makes zero sense is an understatement. They are essentially working against themselves.

hell i should have just saved some time and joined saren back in ME1 then if this was the "best choice".....<_<


Pretty much, and Saren was way better than Spacebrat.

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Computim wrote...

It's actually in the ME2 codex, not the ME1 one.   Just found it on ME Wiki too: http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Keeper - Sheds a bit more light on Tami's question too =]

Edit: I Think it was a private terminal message that you get but it adds a codex entry.

ahhh hell doesn't "people" bring up another plothole? or is starchild suppose to be like one of those "beings of light" or something/not an AI type thing? (if any of this doesn't make sense its my lack of sleep lol)

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I have been in a class all day, so I am sure this is old news by now. But just in case

http://www.forbes.co...o-game-history/

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Bruinbear wrote...

I have been in a class all day, so I am sure this is old news by now. But just in case

http://www.forbes.co...o-game-history/


Yeah they're not exactly helping themselves every time they shoot themselves in the foot like this lol.

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Computim wrote...
You just set a lightbulb off in my head and so I went through my codex on ME2.  If you help the dudes scan the keepers you get a message: 
"they were engineered millions of years ago... by the same people who made Sovereign!"
People.. not AI kid.  PEOPLE. *cries* :crying:
Edit: Better Tami? :innocent:

In the codex there is also mention those people deliberately and grotesquely merging themselves with machines(synthesis?) to combat the dark matter threat, damn lore went up in smoke with the introduction of the catalyst, first we are told the goal of the reapers is to prevent dark matter spread thereby saving the galaxy, then suddenly the dark matter threat no longer exists and the ultimate goal of the reapers is to preserve organics from themselves, no wonder Bioware states ME3 as a good entry point, anyone starting at ME1 is gonna go WTF! in ME3.

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Computim wrote...

It's actually in the ME2 codex, not the ME1 one.   Just found it on ME Wiki too: http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Keeper - Sheds a bit more light on Tami's question too =]

Edit: I Think it was a private terminal message that you get but it adds a codex entry.


"According to Vigil, the keepers were likely once a race that was either created, conquered, or indoctrinated by the Reapers, possibly even the first race they enslaved."


Wait, what? How come I missed this? :blink:

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Dark energy.

Which begs the question: is that even a theoretical construct in modern physics?

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Major Swift wrote...

Computim wrote...

It's actually in the ME2 codex, not the ME1 one.   Just found it on ME Wiki too: http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Keeper - Sheds a bit more light on Tami's question too =]

Edit: I Think it was a private terminal message that you get but it adds a codex entry.

ahhh hell doesn't "people" bring up another plothole? or is starchild suppose to be like one of those "beings of light" or something/not an AI type thing? (if any of this doesn't make sense its my lack of sleep lol)


*unfurls the ancient scroll of plotholeyness, waits 3 minutes while it rolls down the street*

Plothole #398429.8 *begins writing on the scroll* :wizard:

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Computim wrote...

It's actually in the ME2 codex, not the ME1 one.   Just found it on ME Wiki too: http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Keeper - Sheds a bit more light on Tami's question too =]

Edit: I Think it was a private terminal message that you get but it adds a codex entry.


"According to Vigil, the keepers were likely once a race that was either created, conquered, or indoctrinated by the Reapers, possibly even the first race they enslaved."


Wait, what? How come I missed this? :blink:


Not sure it is actually mentioned a few times in ME2

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DJBare wrote...

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No since they would still have free will. But it doesn't mean you didn't pull a galactic size genetic molestation, through a method that doesn't make a lick of sense in the first place. (what the bloody hell is robot DNA?)

We don't even know that since the Reapers and Keepers had a controller, starbrat.

How does starbrat control trillions upon trillions of living species at once, especially if he's sitting in single hub, without something like a mass relay available to theoretically transmit a signal across the galaxy. Also, I'm pretty sure he just changed every single living thing in the galaxy here. "Trillions upon trillions" isn't even a close estimate of what he has to deal with.

Also, does space magic secretly transmit recievers that get implanted into each of these living things as well? Do the new cyborgs kin also magically inherit these recievers. If it's genetic, it makes even less sense than robot DNA.

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Computim wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Computim wrote...

It's actually in the ME2 codex, not the ME1 one.   Just found it on ME Wiki too: http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Keeper - Sheds a bit more light on Tami's question too =]

Edit: I Think it was a private terminal message that you get but it adds a codex entry.


"According to Vigil, the keepers were likely once a race that was either created, conquered, or indoctrinated by the Reapers, possibly even the first race they enslaved."


Wait, what? How come I missed this? :blink:


Not sure it is actually mentioned a few times in ME2

Vigil also says that about the keepers in ME1 when you first get to him

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g_bassi13 wrote...
How does starbrat control trillions upon trillions of living species at once,

Because the very essence of what he is is now merged with every single organic lifeform in the galaxy.

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Dark energy.

Which begs the question: is that even a theoretical construct in modern physics?

It is. A bunch of theoretical stuff that goes straight over my head. I know it pertains to the expansion of the universe but how idk:huh:. I also don't know if the dark energy in ME is supposed to work similar to or be the same as the real stuff though.

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