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XX55XX wrote...
mass_zotz wrote...
XX55XX wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
You folks realize that you've given Woo and Priestly more than enough reason to lock this thread, right?
I love Weimar Germany. And Mass Effect.
Why are we talking about Germany?
Go back five or six pages, we were talking about how the evil N@zis came to power! And of course, it necessitated some discussion of the German parliamentary process.
Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Is it just me, or does this situation give you flashbacks to the whole "suicide mission" fiasco of ME2?
Guest_Sparatus_*
wolf99000 wrote...
cruggero22 wrote...
Just out of curiosity, did anyone get the inclination that peace between the Geth (the non-fanatics) and the Quarians was a possibility, in ME3, from ME2? Think about it. If the "stars align" and you made more of the best of possible choices, uniting the majority of the galaxy (Geth and their awesome ships included), then it is possible to achieve a "truer" sense of victory at the end. At least that is what I might expect.
well if tali could get on with legion after she stopped short of killing him I think there was a shot at peace
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
JBurnes3 wrote...
CerberusSoldier wrote...
JBurnes3 wrote...
Given the whole "TAKE BACK EARTH" marketing scheme, I find it pretty lame that you're basically hitting some switch and destroying all the Reapers.
I want there to be an actual Fight, I want endings like:
1. (best ending) Discovery leads to completely demolishing the Reapers with a moderate amount of difficulty. It takes decades to rebuild, but the Reapers are gone and the races of the Galaxy find some sort of unity and the Galactic community becomes stronger and better than ever.
2. Reapers defeated, some races extinct based on Shepard's decisions. Overall relations between Humanity and other species unchanged, some species more trusting of Humans & some less trusting.
3. Same as 2, but humans basically take control of the Galaxy and run it their way.
4. Reapers defeated, humanity left alone in the Galaxy. Depending on Shepard's decisions Humanity unites to try to recover what they once had, or utter chaos and humanity is on a path of self-destruction.
5. Reapers defeated, humans extinct & the other races survive. Shepard's efforts to destroy the Reapers and take back Earth fail, but are not in vain as the other races unite to defeat the Reapers once and for all using data that Shepard sent to the Council before launching his failed attack.
6. Reapers win, but information is left behind to warn future civilizations of the Reapers before hand and possibly stop them.
7. (Worst Ending) Reapers win, cycle of extinction continues.
^And variations thereof
The reapers win in the end anyway . there was no war or saving Earth . It was huge lie by Bioware
Apparently so...I was hoping for an actual battle to take back control of the Galaxy not some "magic button".
I guess the question "Are you going to have anymore games based in the Mass Effect universe after ME3?" has been answered by the revalation that the Reapers might as well have never existed along with the rest of the ME universe.
I'm all for an ending where the Galaxy is in shambles, but there needs to be that feeling where the shear death & destruction was worth something. Once everyone mourns the dead they turn to rebuilding & try to return to some sort of normalcy, don't just destroy the Mass Relays and turn everyone back to being stranded into their own solar systems and star clusters.
Bioware painted themselves into a corner -- once they made the Reapers into Lovecraftian spacegods, the only thing left to them as the magic McGuffin button.
Even through the end of ME2, there was still room for the Reapers to be defeated in an actual war, with actual fighting, instead of only being vulnerable to SPAAACE MAAAAAGIC.
albertalad wrote...
Make of this what you will - here it is taken from another BW forum on this site.
I...AM...KROGAN
Created 21 minutes ago, Modified 18 minutes ago
Let me preempt the future onslaught of accusations by making it clear that I haven't played Mass Effect 3, nor do I have any inside knowledge of the endings. I have, however, seen the Prima strategy guide. How? I work at a large electronics retailer and we received the guides yesterday.
First, the guide clearly states that there is a "secret" ending for those who've finished a New Game+. Whether this ending is a supplemental cut-scene or some new choice remains to be seen. The guide doesn't show screenshots or give many details due to "not wanting to spoil too much." Second, it states that the endings are different based on whether or not you kept the Collector's Base in ME2. It says if you don't import a character it assumes you destroyed the base. Third, there's apparently a "special reward available only to players who imported a save from Mass Effect 2 with the Prejek Paddlefish purchased by Commander Shepard. If the Prejek Paddlefish survives through all of Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect 3 New Game Plus, visit Liara's quarters aboard the Normandy for a very special intel bonus." Now, to me, that implies that the special ending doesn't involve Shepard dying or the Normandy crashing for no apparent reason. How else could you visit Liara unless you survived the end of the game?
I took pictures of the relevant page in the guide with my phone but I'm having difficulty uploading them to my pc. I have an LG Dare... and it sucks. I'll keep trying.
Why hasn't anyone seen this ending? Not sure. My guess is that Bioware is smarter than we think and didn't allow anyone but devs to see it. Perhaps the space edition is not the full game. I highly doubt Prima messed up their guide so badly as to list parts of the game that don't exist. Anyway, just thought I'd let everyone know that it might be wise to not cancel your Collector's Edition preorders.
If I remember correctly, people were also throwing a giant fit over ME2's ending because everyone could supposedly die. And I think some of it was taken out of context too. I wouldn't be suprised if this was the same case.Karrie788 wrote...
Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Is it just me, or does this situation give you flashbacks to the whole "suicide mission" fiasco of ME2?
What do you mean? Are you referring to the worst ending in which pretty much everyone dies, or the fact that it actually was easy to perform a suicide mission that was not suicidal at all?
ratzerman wrote...
You folks realize that you've given Woo and Priestly more than enough reason to lock this thread, right?
albertalad wrote...
Make of this what you will - here it is taken from another BW forum on this site.
I...AM...KROGAN
Created 21 minutes ago, Modified 18 minutes ago
Let me preempt the future onslaught of accusations by making it clear that I haven't played Mass Effect 3, nor do I have any inside knowledge of the endings. I have, however, seen the Prima strategy guide. How? I work at a large electronics retailer and we received the guides yesterday.
First, the guide clearly states that there is a "secret" ending for those who've finished a New Game+. Whether this ending is a supplemental cut-scene or some new choice remains to be seen. The guide doesn't show screenshots or give many details due to "not wanting to spoil too much." Second, it states that the endings are different based on whether or not you kept the Collector's Base in ME2. It says if you don't import a character it assumes you destroyed the base. Third, there's apparently a "special reward available only to players who imported a save from Mass Effect 2 with the Prejek Paddlefish purchased by Commander Shepard. If the Prejek Paddlefish survives through all of Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect 3 New Game Plus, visit Liara's quarters aboard the Normandy for a very special intel bonus." Now, to me, that implies that the special ending doesn't involve Shepard dying or the Normandy crashing for no apparent reason. How else could you visit Liara unless you survived the end of the game?
I took pictures of the relevant page in the guide with my phone but I'm having difficulty uploading them to my pc. I have an LG Dare... and it sucks. I'll keep trying.
Why hasn't anyone seen this ending? Not sure. My guess is that Bioware is smarter than we think and didn't allow anyone but devs to see it. Perhaps the space edition is not the full game. I highly doubt Prima messed up their guide so badly as to list parts of the game that don't exist. Anyway, just thought I'd let everyone know that it might be wise to not cancel your Collector's Edition preorders.
Modifié par Garrus30, 03 mars 2012 - 12:48 .
I derped on my math. Haha. If we do get 5000 war assets and raise our readiness level to 100%, then yeah it's achievable.JBurnes3 wrote...
Elegana wrote...
Honestly, is it even possible to reach 5000 EMS? It seems impossible to even reach 10,000 EMS with the war assets...
They're probably going to force you to do multiplayer to get a high enough EMS for a decent ending (if there is one hidden away somewhere). Probably have to do the iOS game and supposed Facebook app too.
cruggero22 wrote...
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
EJ107 wrote...
cruggero22 wrote...
Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.
Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.
Theres a difference between drama and melodrama, tragedy and wangst. I'd class Mass Effect 3's endings as the latter of each.
Exactly.
And what we don't need is this nonsense about needing to lose things to appreciate them.
Of course not. I didn't mean to suggest it as fact. But I do believe that some things, since we're trying to sustain some type of realism, are going to be outside your control, no matter what choices you make.
Sparatus wrote...
Really, I don't even know how Weimer Germany and Hitler relate to the topic about Mass Effect 3 having crappy endings, or how we can even reach this point. But I understand that everyone is afraid Hitler will rise from the dead and do everything they enjoy, ruining it.
AdhamS wrote...
albertalad wrote...
Make of this what you will - here it is taken from another BW forum on this site.
I...AM...KROGAN
Created 21 minutes ago, Modified 18 minutes ago
Let me preempt the future onslaught of accusations by making it clear that I haven't played Mass Effect 3, nor do I have any inside knowledge of the endings. I have, however, seen the Prima strategy guide. How? I work at a large electronics retailer and we received the guides yesterday.
First, the guide clearly states that there is a "secret" ending for those who've finished a New Game+. Whether this ending is a supplemental cut-scene or some new choice remains to be seen. The guide doesn't show screenshots or give many details due to "not wanting to spoil too much." Second, it states that the endings are different based on whether or not you kept the Collector's Base in ME2. It says if you don't import a character it assumes you destroyed the base. Third, there's apparently a "special reward available only to players who imported a save from Mass Effect 2 with the Prejek Paddlefish purchased by Commander Shepard. If the Prejek Paddlefish survives through all of Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect 3 New Game Plus, visit Liara's quarters aboard the Normandy for a very special intel bonus." Now, to me, that implies that the special ending doesn't involve Shepard dying or the Normandy crashing for no apparent reason. How else could you visit Liara unless you survived the end of the game?
I took pictures of the relevant page in the guide with my phone but I'm having difficulty uploading them to my pc. I have an LG Dare... and it sucks. I'll keep trying.
Why hasn't anyone seen this ending? Not sure. My guess is that Bioware is smarter than we think and didn't allow anyone but devs to see it. Perhaps the space edition is not the full game. I highly doubt Prima messed up their guide so badly as to list parts of the game that don't exist. Anyway, just thought I'd let everyone know that it might be wise to not cancel your Collector's Edition preorders.
You sir, made my day! And I hope this is true man!
Yes, I've beem following that post and guess what - those fish ARE listed as a war asset!AdhamS wrote...
albertalad wrote...
Make of this what you will - here it is taken from another BW forum on this site.
I...AM...KROGAN
Created 21 minutes ago, Modified 18 minutes ago
Let me preempt the future onslaught of accusations by making it clear that I haven't played Mass Effect 3, nor do I have any inside knowledge of the endings. I have, however, seen the Prima strategy guide. How? I work at a large electronics retailer and we received the guides yesterday.
First, the guide clearly states that there is a "secret" ending for those who've finished a New Game+. Whether this ending is a supplemental cut-scene or some new choice remains to be seen. The guide doesn't show screenshots or give many details due to "not wanting to spoil too much." Second, it states that the endings are different based on whether or not you kept the Collector's Base in ME2. It says if you don't import a character it assumes you destroyed the base. Third, there's apparently a "special reward available only to players who imported a save from Mass Effect 2 with the Prejek Paddlefish purchased by Commander Shepard. If the Prejek Paddlefish survives through all of Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect 3 New Game Plus, visit Liara's quarters aboard the Normandy for a very special intel bonus." Now, to me, that implies that the special ending doesn't involve Shepard dying or the Normandy crashing for no apparent reason. How else could you visit Liara unless you survived the end of the game?
I took pictures of the relevant page in the guide with my phone but I'm having difficulty uploading them to my pc. I have an LG Dare... and it sucks. I'll keep trying.
Why hasn't anyone seen this ending? Not sure. My guess is that Bioware is smarter than we think and didn't allow anyone but devs to see it. Perhaps the space edition is not the full game. I highly doubt Prima messed up their guide so badly as to list parts of the game that don't exist. Anyway, just thought I'd let everyone know that it might be wise to not cancel your Collector's Edition preorders.
You sir, made my day! And I hope this is true man!
N7BLAZEOGLORE wrote...
It be real funny if the space edition games had a totaly different ending the the retail ones.
AdhamS wrote...
albertalad wrote...
Make of this what you will - here it is taken from another BW forum on this site.
I...AM...KROGAN
Created 21 minutes ago, Modified 18 minutes ago
Let me preempt the future onslaught of accusations by making it clear that I haven't played Mass Effect 3, nor do I have any inside knowledge of the endings. I have, however, seen the Prima strategy guide. How? I work at a large electronics retailer and we received the guides yesterday.
First, the guide clearly states that there is a "secret" ending for those who've finished a New Game+. Whether this ending is a supplemental cut-scene or some new choice remains to be seen. The guide doesn't show screenshots or give many details due to "not wanting to spoil too much." Second, it states that the endings are different based on whether or not you kept the Collector's Base in ME2. It says if you don't import a character it assumes you destroyed the base. Third, there's apparently a "special reward available only to players who imported a save from Mass Effect 2 with the Prejek Paddlefish purchased by Commander Shepard. If the Prejek Paddlefish survives through all of Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect 3 New Game Plus, visit Liara's quarters aboard the Normandy for a very special intel bonus." Now, to me, that implies that the special ending doesn't involve Shepard dying or the Normandy crashing for no apparent reason. How else could you visit Liara unless you survived the end of the game?
I took pictures of the relevant page in the guide with my phone but I'm having difficulty uploading them to my pc. I have an LG Dare... and it sucks. I'll keep trying.
Why hasn't anyone seen this ending? Not sure. My guess is that Bioware is smarter than we think and didn't allow anyone but devs to see it. Perhaps the space edition is not the full game. I highly doubt Prima messed up their guide so badly as to list parts of the game that don't exist. Anyway, just thought I'd let everyone know that it might be wise to not cancel your Collector's Edition preorders.
You sir, made my day! And I hope this is true man!
XX55XX wrote...
Sparatus wrote...
Really, I don't even know how Weimer Germany and Hitler relate to the topic about Mass Effect 3 having crappy endings, or how we can even reach this point. But I understand that everyone is afraid Hitler will rise from the dead and do everything they enjoy, ruining it.
It started off with an off-hand comment concerning Germans:
"germans voted for hitler lol, of course they like sad endings"
And went from there.
Modifié par mass_zotz, 03 mars 2012 - 12:47 .
Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
If I remember correctly, people were also throwing a giant fit over ME2's ending because everyone could supposedly die. And I think some of it was taken out of context too. I wouldn't be suprised if this was the same case.Karrie788 wrote...
Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Is it just me, or does this situation give you flashbacks to the whole "suicide mission" fiasco of ME2?
What do you mean? Are you referring to the worst ending in which pretty much everyone dies, or the fact that it actually was easy to perform a suicide mission that was not suicidal at all?
CaptainChip wrote...
cruggero22 wrote...
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
EJ107 wrote...
cruggero22 wrote...
Regardless. I have been pleased with the writing and plot events in ME thus far. Due this, I have no reason to believe that ME3 will be any different.
Losing some of what you've fought so hard to save, allows you to truly appreciate what is left standing. That is drama; that is tragedy; the right mix makes for one whopper of a story.
Theres a difference between drama and melodrama, tragedy and wangst. I'd class Mass Effect 3's endings as the latter of each.
Exactly.
And what we don't need is this nonsense about needing to lose things to appreciate them.
Of course not. I didn't mean to suggest it as fact. But I do believe that some things, since we're trying to sustain some type of realism, are going to be outside your control, no matter what choices you make.
Problem being that this is a game that holds choice as it's main concept. Having everything you've done for three games not matter at all, realistic or not, is unentertaining and aggrivating.
Sashimi_taco wrote...
AdhamS wrote...
albertalad wrote...
Make of this what you will - here it is taken from another BW forum on this site.
I...AM...KROGAN
Created 21 minutes ago, Modified 18 minutes ago
Let me preempt the future onslaught of accusations by making it clear that I haven't played Mass Effect 3, nor do I have any inside knowledge of the endings. I have, however, seen the Prima strategy guide. How? I work at a large electronics retailer and we received the guides yesterday.
First, the guide clearly states that there is a "secret" ending for those who've finished a New Game+. Whether this ending is a supplemental cut-scene or some new choice remains to be seen. The guide doesn't show screenshots or give many details due to "not wanting to spoil too much." Second, it states that the endings are different based on whether or not you kept the Collector's Base in ME2. It says if you don't import a character it assumes you destroyed the base. Third, there's apparently a "special reward available only to players who imported a save from Mass Effect 2 with the Prejek Paddlefish purchased by Commander Shepard. If the Prejek Paddlefish survives through all of Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect 3 New Game Plus, visit Liara's quarters aboard the Normandy for a very special intel bonus." Now, to me, that implies that the special ending doesn't involve Shepard dying or the Normandy crashing for no apparent reason. How else could you visit Liara unless you survived the end of the game?
I took pictures of the relevant page in the guide with my phone but I'm having difficulty uploading them to my pc. I have an LG Dare... and it sucks. I'll keep trying.
Why hasn't anyone seen this ending? Not sure. My guess is that Bioware is smarter than we think and didn't allow anyone but devs to see it. Perhaps the space edition is not the full game. I highly doubt Prima messed up their guide so badly as to list parts of the game that don't exist. Anyway, just thought I'd let everyone know that it might be wise to not cancel your Collector's Edition preorders.
You sir, made my day! And I hope this is true man!
Xio said it isnt true. So either Xio missed something or the guide is wrong.
Modifié par Garrus30, 03 mars 2012 - 12:51 .
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