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[mulder1199]

Zwei133 wrote...

Denethar wrote...

So what's up with EA's stock today?, down 5.5% since opening. I'm not an expert, but something has to have caused it.

EA on Google Finance

According to the news side bar, there are rumors of EA doing a big layoff.

500-1000 employees, they've cited overspending in advertising as the culprit, not producing mostly finished games...

[Spartas Husky]

Zwei133 wrote...

Denethar wrote...

So what's up with EA's stock today?, down 5.5% since opening. I'm not an expert, but something has to have caused it.

EA on Google Finance

According to the news side bar, there are rumors of EA doing a big layoff.

Am I a bad person to feel happy... even though I know this would hurts normal people more than the fat  old gizards?

yeah... i feel guilty

[DangerousPuddy]

600,000 views. Granted a lot of it is repeat views, but this is just BSN.

This isn't a minority, Bioware.

[Thalador]

Velocithon wrote...

The worst part was the feeling of hopelessness. Like, it's all over. Everything's gone. Nothing matters.

Just a giant kick in the balls.

I feel exactly the same way. Every day when I accidentally let my mind wander to the beautiful landscape of Mass Effect I'm struck with absolute hopelessness, the inability to do anything other than remember that even all the overwhelming amount of good (the characters, the lore, the greatest (both heart-wrenching, elevating, and humorous) moments, etc.) stands no chance in the face of those 10-15 minutes that ruins everything we've cared for, fought for, bled and sweat for in the previous games and in that 90-99% of ME3...

But there's no other choice but to keep holding the line (& the wallet)... Hope springs eternal - even (and especially) when we feel there's none left.

Modifié par Thalador, 16 avril 2012 - 05:59 .

[Nephilim5]

GroverA125 wrote...
multiplayer concerns....

It occurred to me that they might have learned quite a bit from looking at Unreal Tournament: multiplayer was amazingly modifiable and dynamic.  

[Zwei133]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Zwei133 wrote...

Denethar wrote...

So what's up with EA's stock today?, down 5.5% since opening. I'm not an expert, but something has to have caused it.

EA on Google Finance

According to the news side bar, there are rumors of EA doing a big layoff.

Am I a bad person to feel happy... even though I know this would hurts normal people more than the fat  old gizards?

yeah... i feel guilty

I have mixed feelings about this.  First off, layoffs suck, not just for those being let go but for everyone.  It does something to morale that is very hard to repair.  Second of all, a money strapped EA is less likely to authorize things like new endings for Mass Effect.

On the flip side, I do like that the business practices of EA are finally catching up to them.  Investors are not stupid; EA can claim whatever they want as reasons for their layoffs, the investors know better (hence why EA is under performing far worse than the rest of the NASDAQ today).

EA has the opportunity to see the writing on the wall and pull their a**es out of the fire.  Otherwise, I would not be surprised to see them liquidate their assets (such as BioWare) or be outright acquired by Activision (which I think would make things worse for BioWare; they would be disassembled and discarded with the things Activision wants probably moved under Blizzard).

Modifié par Zwei133, 16 avril 2012 - 06:00 .

[Spartas Husky]

Zwei133 wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Zwei133 wrote...

Denethar wrote...

So what's up with EA's stock today?, down 5.5% since opening. I'm not an expert, but something has to have caused it.

EA on Google Finance

According to the news side bar, there are rumors of EA doing a big layoff.

Am I a bad person to feel happy... even though I know this would hurts normal people more than the fat  old gizards?

yeah... i feel guilty

I have mixed feelings about this.  First off, layoffs suck, not just for those being let go but for everyone.  It does something to morale that is very hard to repair.  Second of all, a money strapped EA is less likely to authorize things like new endings for Mass Effect.

On the flip side, I do like that the business practices of EA are finally catching up to them.  Investors are not stupid; EA can claim whatever they want as reasons for their layoffs, the investors know better (hence why EA is under performing far worse than the rest of the NASDAQ today).

EA has the opportunity to see the writing on the wall and pull their a**es out of the fire.  Otherwise, I would not be surprised to see them liquidate their assets (such as BioWare) or be outright acquired by Activision (which I think would make things worse for BioWare; they would be disassembled and discarded with the things Activision wants probably moved under Blizzard).

Wow... being acquired by activision thats a big stretch EA still has a lot of cushion from other sectors...

Microsoft studios should not have let bioware go...

[Phoenix NL]

Nephilim5 wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...
multiplayer concerns....

It occurred to me that they might have learned quite a bit from looking at Unreal Tournament: multiplayer was amazingly modifiable and dynamic.  

My biggest problem with MP, aside from the fact that you need to play it to get the "best ending", is how repetitive it gets so quickly. I don't see why they couldn't put some variety in other than the maps.

[Precursor2552]

Over a month after first beating it I am just now able to watch re-done versions of it that make it better. Wonder when I'll be able to replay the game again?

[Phoenix NL]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Wow... being acquired by activision thats a big stretch EA still has a lot of cushion from other sectors...

Microsoft studios should not have let bioware go...

Ok I apologize in advance if I'm being stupid but as far as I'm aware Microsoft never owned BioWare, they only had a publishing deal with them?

[Lestatman]

Phoenix NL wrote...

My biggest problem with MP, aside from the fact that you need to play it to get the "best ending", is how repetitive it gets so quickly. I don't see why they couldn't put some variety in other than the maps.

My biggest prob with MP is MP, but I can accept I'm a minority as more and more MP is being added to what seems every game.  Thank goodnes for Skyrim.

[Major Swift]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Nephilim5 wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...
multiplayer concerns....

It occurred to me that they might have learned quite a bit from looking at Unreal Tournament: multiplayer was amazingly modifiable and dynamic.  

My biggest problem with MP, aside from the fact that you need to play it to get the "best ending", is how repetitive it gets so quickly. I don't see why they couldn't put some variety in other than the maps.

yeah same here, gets boring pretty fast

[DJBare]

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[Spartas Husky]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Wow... being acquired by activision thats a big stretch EA still has a lot of cushion from other sectors...

Microsoft studios should not have let bioware go...

Ok I apologize in advance if I'm being stupid but as far as I'm aware Microsoft never owned BioWare, they only had a publishing deal with them?

I know I know. But they could have sweeten the deal. Or outright pointed a revenant at casey and told him to stay. He seems eager to please so.

hindsight is 20/20 right?

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 16 avril 2012 - 06:13 .

[Phoenix NL]

Lestatman wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

My biggest problem with MP, aside from the fact that you need to play it to get the "best ending", is how repetitive it gets so quickly. I don't see why they couldn't put some variety in other than the maps.

My biggest prob with MP is MP, but I can accept I'm a minority as more and more MP is being added to what seems every game.  Thank goodnes for Skyrim.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big MP person and I see no reason why it needed to be included in ME3.

Did you not hear about the Skyrim MP?

[Phoenix NL]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Wow... being acquired by activision thats a big stretch EA still has a lot of cushion from other sectors...

Microsoft studios should not have let bioware go...

Ok I apologize in advance if I'm being stupid but as far as I'm aware Microsoft never owned BioWare, they only had a publishing deal with them?

I know I know. But they could have sweeten the deal. Or outright pointed a revenant at casey and told him to stay. He seems eager to please so.

hindsight is 20/20 right?

Indeed it is. Who knows, we could be unlucky enough that the extended cut makes the ending worse and then we'll wonder why we ever complained to begin with  lol.

[Tyion133]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Lestatman wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

My biggest problem with MP, aside from the fact that you need to play it to get the "best ending", is how repetitive it gets so quickly. I don't see why they couldn't put some variety in other than the maps.

My biggest prob with MP is MP, but I can accept I'm a minority as more and more MP is being added to what seems every game.  Thank goodnes for Skyrim.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big MP person and I see no reason why it needed to be included in ME3.

Did you not hear about the Skyrim MP?

You mean that Elder Scrolls MMO that was ''kinda leaked'' a while ago?

[Lestatman]

@ Phoenix NL

Only thing I heard was that it was a Mod and that Bethesda was going to continue on single player stuff but if it's popular then it wouldn't suprise me if they did go down that road.

[Laterali]

Zwei133 wrote...


I have mixed feelings about this.  First off, layoffs suck, not just for those being let go but for everyone.  It does something to morale that is very hard to repair.  Second of all, a money strapped EA is less likely to authorize things like new endings for Mass Effect.

On the flip side, I do like that the business practices of EA are finally catching up to them.  Investors are not stupid; EA can claim whatever they want as reasons for their layoffs, the investors know better (hence why EA is under performing far worse than the rest of the NASDAQ today).

EA has the opportunity to see the writing on the wall and pull their a**es out of the fire.  Otherwise, I would not be surprised to see them liquidate their assets (such as BioWare) or be outright acquired by Activision (which I think would make things worse for BioWare; they would be disassembled and discarded with the things Activision wants probably moved under Blizzard).

They won't layoff the ones responsible for the problems though. The people getting laid off will be writer's assistants, programmers, interns, accountants, secretaries...

It will be hard to get the Executives and CEOs to see any blowback, even if the company is hemorrhaging money, they usually will continue to make quite a lot of money themselves. They just pass it on the the employees making minimum wage. they'll dissolve studios and cannabalize the staff. They'll shoot out the 56th version of Madden and make cheat codes for 15 dollars on xbox live.

[Spartas Husky]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Lestatman wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

My biggest problem with MP, aside from the fact that you need to play it to get the "best ending", is how repetitive it gets so quickly. I don't see why they couldn't put some variety in other than the maps.

My biggest prob with MP is MP, but I can accept I'm a minority as more and more MP is being added to what seems every game.  Thank goodnes for Skyrim.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big MP person and I see no reason why it needed to be included in ME3.

Did you not hear about the Skyrim MP?

I wished they had spent the energy in MP into the ending. That would have made it better lol. nah caseharbinger still messed up.


Either way MP is getting boring... Gold seems to be at elast for me. too Hard without camping and taking advantage of the stupid AI. There is no challenge if the only option is camp and hold out. Is fun sometimes but m3h.

Dont know what to play anymore. Got bored, after passing skyrim 4 times. The last tiem I did as many dunggeons and quest I could find. I didn't find more quests... so I dont know. can't keep going though on skyrim.

[Cecilia L]

Precursor2552 wrote...

Over a month after first beating it I am just now able to watch re-done versions of it that make it better. Wonder when I'll be able to replay the game again?

I feel the same way. I beat the game on March 11th and I still have problems even watching videos about the ending.

I really want to replay it, but I just can't before I know they have done something about the ending. Also tempted in playing up to the point of getting hit by Harby's beam, then let MS kill me as many others have done on their second playthrough.

Modifié par Cecilia L, 16 avril 2012 - 06:20 .

[Major Swift]

speaking of skyrim, kinect support is coming for it last week of april lol

[Tasker]

My opinion is that Bioware and their IPs are now in the standard EA 2 year per game development cycle. ( Two years to develop and then it's released no matter what state it's in. )

Thanks to the 2 year development cycle RPS are no longer viable. Which is why they are getting more and more actiony/shooter and less and less RPG.  Action and shooter are easier and quicker to make.

Spartas Husky wrote...

Microsoft studios should not have let bioware go...

They never owned Bioware. They were just a publisher and had no say in their sale.

The slide to Bioware crapdom went along the lines of...

Bioware and Pandemic were bought by Elevation studios on the promise that they would give them as much funding as they needed with no interference. ( Or whatever Bonos company was called )

Bono then pulled out and the remaining owner sold them both to EA.

This owner then became a director at EA.

EA shut down Pandemic for no reason after letting them finish off the almost finished anyway Saboteur. ( An awesome game in my opinion. )

Bioware were allowed to finish off their then current games, stuck on the 2 year dev cycle and turned into a brand name.

That last part is just my opinion but basically that's how the rest of it went.

It's a shame that Microsoft weren't able to buy Bioware as they might have remained a trustworthy purveyor of quality RPGs.

Modifié par Orkboy, 16 avril 2012 - 06:21 .

[Lestatman]

Major Swift wrote...

speaking of skyrim, kinect support is coming for it last week of april lol

Wonder if that will include a Skyrim Dance Off?

[Spartas Husky]

Orkboy wrote...


It's a shame that Microsoft weren't able to buy Bioware as they might have remained a trustworthy purveyor of quality RPGs.

.... shame. real shame.