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[firstarioch]

Go chelsea! !!

are we doing any bets here?
Anyone willing? ...lol
DJ bare or Phoenix can be mediators and bookkeepers as they look trustworthy ...lol

And with regards to Casey YouTube link and tali face.
I don't get how these 2 morons created this amazing series ...
really can't get it....lol

[Matt_gekko88]

Laterali wrote...
Look at this

and then this

And tell me which one looks like a professional did it.

Is the first one not based on a Final Fantasy-character?

[GroverA125]

DJBare wrote...

Listen up soldiers!
Saw this in another thread, but damned appropriate to the retake movement.
www.youtube.com/watch

He's right. We are people, not a bunch of cattle. We are free to believe what we want, wish for what we want, and hope for what we want. What's greater than this fact is that we all stand free, with a similar goal, hope, or wish. Words are but words, and these days whoever hears me and you just see me a number, a random regurgitation of binary code, not a person at all, but a figure. Not a person at equal as them, just a random bunch of numbers opposing their thoughts. Any of us would pass another in the street without notice, yet here we stand, side by side, with a common goal in mind. We are many, and we are not just one group. We hope for our wishes to come true, and I am happy to stand beside such people. We do not stand here to despise or nitpick, we stand for what we believe in. As our kind Mr Chaplins says, we, the people have the power. And he's damn right. We are many, and we have been forgotten, have become the cattle that this industry wishes us to be, bleeding us dry for all we are worth, not in the effort of pleasing us, or making us happy, but in the effort of their own self-gain. Anyone who puts themself so far away from the fact that we are not a number, that we are people are those same kind of people who destroy others lives so that theirs may thrive. I am proud not just to be against such sad individuals, but to also be standing with such good people.

No matter how this ends, I am happy to say I stood on this side, with many people, not just from one place, but from around the world, wishing and hoping for a better future. You are all good people, and I salute you for this.

Hold this line, and may it never fall, should such good people be denied.
Grover and out.
*End of Contribution*

[Laterali]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Laterali wrote...
Look at this

and then this

And tell me which one looks like a professional did it.

Is the first one not based on a Final Fantasy-character?

Never played a final fantasy game in my life, so I have no idea

[Fallenfromthesky]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Fallenfromthesky wrote...

*snip* happy welcoming population I kid, I kid but not starkid

Do not get me started on that one. The number of people who speak to me like I'm some kind of slack-jawed halfwit because I speak with a foreign accent

*chuckles* don't come where I live then we burn people in wicker men for not being from 'round here 

[ExcTar]

They should've probably just avoided answering any questions regarding Tali's face, probably do more harm than good at this point, only real course to take would probably be to retcon it and change the image you are given to a 3D version instead, or just downright smack in a scene of her unmasked in the coming EC, up to them though, they're not doing the best job at putting out fires right now, they just seem to add fuel to it for some reason

[g_bassi13]

Laterali wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

i dunno if this has been posted yet, i see this in another thread.

Nice going Casey...

Sometimes I wonder why some people even open their mouths. Do they even hear themselves speaking? They are pissing on us and calling it rain. Ugh

What it sounds like to me is they were just too lazy to render it in game, and paid one of the interns 15 bucks to find a photo and photoshop it. But everything was lazy about ME3. Look at the side missions, eavesdropping on conversations and then scanning a planet.... Most of the conversations between crew members weren't rendered, just voice actors saying their lines, with little interaction with Shepard. This was a sell out, get as much money with as little work as possble.

Look at this

and then this

And tell me which one looks like a professional did it.

That was my point. They took a very, very obvious shortcut, and are pretending that there decision was based in something else. They are well aware everyone wants to see Tali's real face, and not some stupid stock photo, yet they wont even admit to that. I really hope that isn't a recent video, because if so they've completely lost the concept of building good will.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 18 avril 2012 - 06:47 .

[sagevallant]

MeldarthX wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

Meh. Gamestop and it's used game policies are part of the reason that paid DLC and other crap exists. And why game companies (for example, EA) are looking to make it so that when you buy a game it is locked to your console so you can never sell it or even bring the disc to your friends house to play there.

The future of Xbox, ladies and gents.

That's BS - used games have been around as long as the gaming industry - its only in the last 5 years that supposed EVIL used gaming market is one of the things that's killing gaming.  BS - its crappy games - treating your customers like complete dirt - expect them to keep coming back for more.

Hell if it wasn't for shareware - ID wouldn't be where it was; same for Blizzard and spawning off Diablo and Starcraft.  If it wasn't for those factors - Blizzard wouldn't be where it is now period.

Instead of continueing to reward gamers - and actually give gamers what they want so we will hand over our money; We got people like Kotick - who has said he hates gamers period.  The real question is; how can you run a giant gaming company/publisher if you hate your customers.

EA's president wants to do a pay per bullet type of payment; this isn't how to treat your customers.  This is how to bring about another gaming crash like what happened in 1983. 

Its already happening - dumping of crappy games - cheap prices; it will get to the point again; gamers won't buy anything and we will have a crash - I mean business people need to relearn - Greed is not always good - treating your customers right will do more for your business than any amount of ad dollars will.

It's only in the last 5 years or so, though, that companies such as Gamestop have begun aggressively selling used games even if the customer in question comes up to them with a new copy in hand. Plus the cost of making a game has skyrocketed compared to the days of the NES when new games were still costing $30-$40 new. Personally I don't feel that the distributors should be stealing business out from under the pubs & devs. Mostly the devs, really, publishers can sit on it and spin. Distributors are becoming almost as bad as the publishers these days. Soon EA and Gamestop will merge into a singularity of greed and bad business practices. Around the time that everything goes digital, probably by 2025. Assuming they haven't killed the industry already.

The crappy games of present are leaps and bounds better than the crappy games from the great gaming crash of the 1980's. These are at least mostly playable, if tricky.

Gaming in general is due for a massive shift, as the popularity of games like COD and BF are starting to drop off, as people suddenly realize "Hey, I just paid $70 for the same game all over again! When does the map pack come out again?" Hopefully it finally circles back around to the Golden Age of SP RPGs, like back in the days of the SNES.

[TamiBx]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Mr Gamble

" Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing. "

http://social.biowar...08288#11510088


There is no reason to belive any "what I just saw" leaks, sites like 4chan were right about LOTSB once, but to have information every time would suggest they have a private spy in bioware which is ludicrous...

I came back from class and first thing I saw was that thread on Kaidan's thread and I almost went crazy. Then I saw the posts here and now I feel better 

I wouldn't think they are done; not enough time for them to have it in game. 

[CuseGirl]

schwarzaj wrote...
No, I think it was ready before release. The whole thing about the "Extended Cut" that bothered me was that it sounded like they were adding in scenes that were taken out because of time constraints or editing issues, sort of like the "uncut" and "directors cut" of movies. If that's the case, then BioWare's problems have just begun. Everyone has been demanding that the endings be changed becasue of promises made by the developer and of the inherant stupidity of the current endings. It's just like I said, we don't want you to go into more detail on the crap endings, all of the stuff we hate is still going to be there and will still be the focus. Bioware needs to change these endings, and they're going to find out the hard way that a half****^& attempt with as little effort as possible isn't going to work.

I'm inclined to agree with this....I think Bioware/EA truly thought they were gonna get away with selling us the ending. This extended cut DLC is probably already done. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have offered it so soon....I mean, we had the reports of how VAs haven't been called back, so what exactly are they developing anyway?

I just hate that I didn't see ME2 LIs in the cinematic montage and that Miranda wasn't at Cronos Station. Just 2 glaring omissions that I won't give up complaining about when people ask me "why didn't you like the ending"

[Rdubs]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Mr Gamble

" Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing. "

http://social.biowar...08288#11510088


There is no reason to belive any "what I just saw" leaks, sites like 4chan were right about LOTSB once, but to have information every time would suggest they have a private spy in bioware which is ludicrous...

Misconception #1
http://www.cinemable...stry-40569.html

A better way to look at that would be, has gamble ever said misleading or less than perfectly accurate statements in the past.  Not saying he has or hasn't, but factor that in.  Remember, both the terrible endings as well as the prothean squadmate were also denied when leaked.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Rdubs wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Mr Gamble

" Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing. "

http://social.biowar...08288#11510088


There is no reason to belive any "what I just saw" leaks, sites like 4chan were right about LOTSB once, but to have information every time would suggest they have a private spy in bioware which is ludicrous...

Misconception #1
http://www.cinemable...stry-40569.html

A better way to look at that would be, has gamble ever said misleading or less than perfectly accurate statements in the past.  Not saying he has or hasn't, but factor that in.  Remember, both the terrible endings as well as the prothean squadmate were also denied when leaked.

Yes I know that he does not have to tell the truth, but do you really think that bioware is full of spies?

[CuseGirl]

I looked at that screen shot....I know Gamble came out and de-bunked it but how much money would you put down that Gamble is 100% lying.

Rdubs wrote...
A better way to look at that would be, has gamble ever said misleading or less than perfectly accurate statements in the past.  Not saying he has or hasn't, but factor that in.  Remember, both the terrible endings as well as the prothean squadmate were also denied when leaked.

the answer to the bolded part is most likely yes.

Modifié par CuseGirl, 18 avril 2012 - 07:02 .

[DJBare]

Rdubs wrote...
A better way to look at that would be, has gamble ever said misleading or less than perfectly accurate statements in the past.  Not saying he has or hasn't, but factor that in.  Remember, both the terrible endings as well as the prothean squadmate were also denied when leaked.

I'd have to go with him telling the truth mainly because of the time line, they been working on something else which just got the all clear with QA, I don't see how there would be enough information regarding the EC yet, I do modding and even some simple stuff has taken me days because of scripting, they also have logistics to sort out, getting the team in sync, the VA's and so on, when did they announce the EC initially?, was not that long ago?

[Alamar2078]

While I don't believe the rumor I would not be surprised to find that the EC gives me NOTHING of value at all.

[g_bassi13]

Ohpus wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

Also the whole "illsuion of choice" kind of ties in with that, but is its own thing in its own right. That being that we as players were set up with the idea that we were able to have an actual effect in this epic battle with the Reapers that was coming up. But it turns out that it was indeed futile, because despite all the obstacles you overcame through the actions you took, defeating the reapers in the end was going to take a force greater than yourself. Showing your insignificance in the grand scheme of things by slapping you in the face with 3 solutions that are independant of the choices your game, that don't reflect the morales of the hero herself. Basically that the whole Mass Effect series was one insulting giant troll from Bioware. And that this is supposed to carry a poetic weight that those that are angry about the game will come to appreciate in the future.

This is exactly what they did with DA II. No matter who you sided with Anders blew up the chantry building and you ended up fighting botht the mages and the templars. The only thing your choices affected was what order. They say they wanted to reflect the Hawk was at the center of a vortex of events he/she could not really control. But it was very clear from the rushed schedule and level reuse that they simply did not have the time and resources to do it properly.

There is also a disturbing parallel between the subsequent DLCs and ME3. They wanted to show their fans where they really wanted to go with the series. The stories were good and the level reuse was almost all gone. However, the lack of choice at the end of both DLC showed that they clearly were not able to address that issue in a meaningful way. It was better handled, but the endings were scripted and could not be significantly influenced.

If it means anything, at PAX they did acknowlege that the lack of choice wasn't what they wanted, and they ended up railroading the story down a single path. They straight up said "sorry about that". They say they don't want to repeat the same mistakes, but with the fact that their company has now done the exact same thing for two games in a row now, I can't just take their word for it (yes I know that they have different dev teams).

[Phoenix NL]

firstarioch wrote...

Go chelsea! !!

are we doing any bets here?
Anyone willing? ...lol
DJ bare or Phoenix can be mediators and bookkeepers as they look trustworthy ...lol

And with regards to Casey YouTube link and tali face.
I don't get how these 2 morons created this amazing series ...
really can't get it....lol

I appreciate the vote of confidence

[Phoenix NL]

CuseGirl wrote...

I looked at that screen shot....I know Gamble came out and de-bunked it but how much money would you put down that Gamble is 100% lying.

Rdubs wrote...
A better way to look at that would be, has gamble ever said misleading or less than perfectly accurate statements in the past.  Not saying he has or hasn't, but factor that in.  Remember, both the terrible endings as well as the prothean squadmate were also denied when leaked.

the answer to the bolded part is undoubtedly yes.

Can we please be careful of any accusations we may or may not throw in the general direction of BioWare staff, the moderators don't take too kindly to it. Thanks

[gorgoth]

DJBare wrote...

Rdubs wrote...
A better way to look at that would be, has gamble ever said misleading or less than perfectly accurate statements in the past.  Not saying he has or hasn't, but factor that in.  Remember, both the terrible endings as well as the prothean squadmate were also denied when leaked.

I'd have to go with him telling the truth mainly because of the time line, they been working on something else which just got the all clear with QA, I don't see how there would be enough information regarding the EC yet, I do modding and even some simple stuff has taken me days because of scripting, they also have logistics to sort out, getting the team in sync, the VA's and so on, when did they announce the EC initially?, was not that long ago?

What bothers me about the about QA giving a green light on the EC is that it either means, They have been working on it since before the game was released or they spent just about no time on it.

[Phoenix NL]

TamiBx wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Mr Gamble

" Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing. "

http://social.biowar...08288#11510088


There is no reason to belive any "what I just saw" leaks, sites like 4chan were right about LOTSB once, but to have information every time would suggest they have a private spy in bioware which is ludicrous...

I came back from class and first thing I saw was that thread on Kaidan's thread and I almost went crazy. Then I saw the posts here and now I feel better 

I wouldn't think they are done; not enough time for them to have it in game. 

Ah Tami-chan..... Asagohan?

[Alamar2078]

Phoenix NL wrote...

<potentially questionable post removed>

Can we please be careful of any accusations we may or may not throw in the general direction of BioWare staff, the moderators don't take too kindly to it. Thanks

I agree with you ... whether it's true or not

[Phoenix NL]

gorgoth wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Rdubs wrote...
A better way to look at that would be, has gamble ever said misleading or less than perfectly accurate statements in the past.  Not saying he has or hasn't, but factor that in.  Remember, both the terrible endings as well as the prothean squadmate were also denied when leaked.

I'd have to go with him telling the truth mainly because of the time line, they been working on something else which just got the all clear with QA, I don't see how there would be enough information regarding the EC yet, I do modding and even some simple stuff has taken me days because of scripting, they also have logistics to sort out, getting the team in sync, the VA's and so on, when did they announce the EC initially?, was not that long ago?

What bothers me about the about QA giving a green light on the EC is that it either means, They have been working on it since before the game was released or they spent just about no time on it.

The QA has not given approval on the EC, Mr. Gamble simply said that something they were proud of had been QA'd there has been no confirmation as to what that is.

[Spartas Husky]

We dont know, Dont get desperate guys. clawing for any good news for us is foolish on our parts. They will be vague for reason regarding marketing self preservation from outrage and preventing unecessary speculation and high hopes... maybe too high if they even implied anything.

The resounding maybe is the best tool they have, and thats what they should stick with. Least the cause outrage amongst us, loose sales or end up being criticized for nothign delivering enough.

[CuseGirl]

Phoenix NL wrote...
Can we please be careful of any accusations we may or may not throw in the general direction of BioWare staff, the moderators don't take too kindly to it. Thanks

Sorry. I'm just so agitated with how this game turned out. Not just the ending sequence but the weak writing from the end of the Thessia mission, not having a single scene with Miranda and TiM, Hanar diplomat glitch (how could they miss that in testing), the handling of Tali's face reveal......let me not re-hash.

I just feel like I'm talking to one of my relatives, who will basically say the same thing over and over again even if it's patently false and you've shown her all the reasons why it's false......

Also, Gamble was one of the devs on Ustream who had an agitated look on his face when people asked about Miranda, as if he didnt' want to talk about her........so I tend to associate my anger with him....

[schwarzaj]

DJBare wrote...

Rdubs wrote...
A better way to look at that would be, has gamble ever said misleading or less than perfectly accurate statements in the past.  Not saying he has or hasn't, but factor that in.  Remember, both the terrible endings as well as the prothean squadmate were also denied when leaked.

I'd have to go with him telling the truth mainly because of the time line, they been working on something else which just got the all clear with QA, I don't see how there would be enough information regarding the EC yet, I do modding and even some simple stuff has taken me days because of scripting, they also have logistics to sort out, getting the team in sync, the VA's and so on, when did they announce the EC initially?, was not that long ago?

Maybe, but this is working under the assumption that the dev team is doing all of the EC from scratch. It's possible that they're not, and that they're just using cut content that they was supposed to be in the game orgionally. In Gears of War 2, they had to cut an entire level out because the dev team couldn't agree on how Locust should act in a state of rest. The guys at Epic eventually released this level as DLC. I'm not saying that this is what BioWares doing, just that it's likely.