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[Dj14365]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

I'm with Computim. This isn't the time

fixed

I don't think this is the place either. 

If you owned a business and people stood on your property telling people not to buy your products would you let if continue?

I agree that in the corporate world change is only brought about because of money but try to think about this from their point of view.

Modifié par Dj14365, 19 avril 2012 - 02:54 .

[Darth Garrus]

Goodwood wrote...

I'm with Computim. This isn't the time or the place.

I agree. We may head that way much later. But it's not the place nor time to flood this thread.

That said, I understand, and I think a part of it is justified. It depends on the methods. And later.

P.S. - I guess it was the wrong time to try to discuss ideas for the endings. <_<

[G Kevin]

Spartas Husky wrote...

The ball is on their court. Ever since they announced the extended cut, the ball is on our court. And we can't do anythign with it until they show to the game. Simply throwing it back saying" faster faster" doesn't help our cause.

True.

I am just waiting like everyone else for the EC to surprise the crap out of me. In the mean time, what I meant with my initial comment was that everything feels to have slowed down.

And you guys are right, this is not the place for it. I shall stop discussing about that now.

Modifié par G Kevin, 19 avril 2012 - 02:54 .

[Computim]

Mastermadskills wrote...

I don't feel like they have.  Many others think likewise.

Well, at the same time having a 6 month siege is going to wear people down so apathy kicks in.. it'd be far more valuable to wait for the EC to come out and then, if it sucks, I guarantee it'll be new again, and people will be rested and far more willing to dust off the ballistae and catapults.  If we keep escalating on our one side we're just, eventually, going to hit a point where the followers of the movement simply say "Enough, I can't support this movement anymore" and either splinter off, or simply give up.. which is the last thing you, or I want.

You're part of one of the 30 most influential groups in the gaming industry according to the mainstream media.  Part of that comes with the responsibility of not going thermonuclear everytime things quiet down.

Hold the line sir, but do it responsibly.  We have a responsibility to everyone else on the line, and to those who haven't spoken up.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

 *Reading game informer....see's funny & accurate quote by a reader named Callum Sudmeyer*

Callum Sudmeyer wrote...
"ME 3 is like playing chess. You place all your pieces with intricate planning, sacraficing some to gain leverage over your opponent for the perfect victory. But at the end, just before you can enact your final plan and claim checkmate, someone comes by and flips the board, scattering all the pieces on the floor in chaos"

*goes back to lurking again lol*

[Laterali]

What can possibly be done at this point? They've responded, they're making the EC, we have no idea what is going to come of it. If we start rabble rousing now, it'll just make us look like those entitled whiners everyone tries to make us out to be. There's nothing that can be done until EC is released, and we see what they've added, except holding the line.

And the last thing I want is for them to get rushed by EA to get the EC out as fast as possible so it shuts us up. Being rushed is probably why they are in this mess to begin with. I'd rather they take their time and do it right.

Modifié par Laterali, 19 avril 2012 - 03:00 .

[Dj14365]

xHezz90 wrote...

 *Reading game informer....see's funny & accurate quote by a reader named Callum Sudmeyer*

Callum Sudmeyer wrote...
"ME 3 is like playing chess. You place all your pieces with intricate planning, sacraficing some to gain leverage over your opponent for the perfect victory. But at the end, just before you can enact your final plan and claim checkmate, someone comes by and flips the board, scattering all the pieces on the floor in chaos"

*goes back to lurking again lol*

Hahahahah:lol:

[G Kevin]

xHezz90 wrote...

 *Reading game informer....see's funny & accurate quote by a reader named Callum Sudmeyer*

Callum Sudmeyer wrote...
"ME 3 is like playing chess. You place all your pieces with intricate planning, sacraficing some to gain leverage over your opponent for the perfect victory. But at the end, just before you can enact your final plan and claim checkmate, someone comes by and flips the board, scattering all the pieces on the floor in chaos"

*goes back to lurking again lol*

That made me spray tea all over my monitor 

[Flyprdu]

Hi. I wanted to be on 3500.

Still waiting for EC.

That is all.

[TamiBx]

Laterali wrote...

What can possibly be done at this point? They've responded, they're making the EC, we have no idea what is going to come of it. If we start rabble rousing now, it'll just make us look like those entitled whiners everyone tries to make us out to be. There's nothing that can be done until EC is released, and we see what they've added, except holding the line.

And the last thing I want is for them to get rushed by EA to get the EC out as fast as possible so it shuts us up. Being rushed is probably why they are in this mess to begin with. I'd rather they take their time and do it right.

QFT. 

[Mastermadskills]

Laterali wrote...

What can possibly be done at this point? They've responded, they're making the EC, we have no idea what is going to come of it. If we start rabble rousing now, it'll just make us look like those entitled whiners everyone tries to make us out to be. There's nothing that can be done until EC is released, and we see what they've added, except holding the line.

And the last thing I want is for them to get rushed by EA to get the EC out as fast as possible so it shuts us up. Being rushed is probably why they are in this mess to begin with. I'd rather they take their time and do it right.

That is the point.

I want them to know just how much rides on them getting things right.

[Spartas Husky]

Dj14365 wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

I'm with Computim. This isn't the time

fixed

I don't think this is the place either. 

If you owned a business and people stood on your property telling people not to buy your products would you let if continue?

I agree that in the corporate world change is only brought about because of money but try to think about this from their point of view.

You have to. Is called right to peacefully assemble.

IN the online world, as long as you are polite. Is the same. ALthough they have the right o ban us if the zhit the extended cut as I expect them to. That will hurt their PR worse.

Either way I figure this will be a fiasco for them. BUt liek garrus. there is a small chance I will be pleasantly surprise either way. Either because I was right and they are going tos crew up by trying to explain why their crappy ending works... which still means is crappy. Or I will be surprise because they proove me wrong.

Like my brother garrus, I'm a apragmatic and a bit of a pessimist. Works wonders in a duo .

[Computim]

TamiBx wrote...

You made me laugh, sir. Hahaha. 
I just imagined a press conference with Bioware and someone ripping their shirt off in the corner of the room and security taking him out. 

And yeah, I feel like what we can do is to send them emails or post on the suggestion thread, just to remind them of what we want. They are responding, but we need to give them time to work it out nicely. 

You've got me chuckling now... I've got mental picture of people burning Alliance Military flags now and C-Sec having to bring out the riot shields.

[Computim]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...

I don't think this is the place either. 

If you owned a business and people stood on your property telling people not to buy your products would you let if continue?

I agree that in the corporate world change is only brought about because of money but try to think about this from their point of view.

You have to. Is called right to peacefully assemble.

IN the online world, as long as you are polite. Is the same. ALthough they have the right o ban us if the zhit the extended cut as I expect them to. That will hurt their PR worse.

Either way I figure this will be a fiasco for them. BUt liek garrus. there is a small chance I will be pleasantly surprise either way. Either because I was right and they are going tos crew up by trying to explain why their crappy ending works... which still means is crappy. Or I will be surprise because they proove me wrong.

Like my brother garrus, I'm a apragmatic and a bit of a pessimist. Works wonders in a duo .

Right to peaceful assembly doesn't extend to private property... otherwise I could bring a group of protesters into your house and protest your choice of socks.  By the way, you should be publically flogged for wearing red, blue and green socks, just saying.

Modifié par Computim, 19 avril 2012 - 03:09 .

[G Kevin]

Computim wrote...
By the way, you should be publically flogged for wearing red, blue and green socks, just saying.

Ha! 

[Bruinbear]

Goodwood wrote...

I'm with Computim. This isn't the time or the place.

Agreed.  I am all for the civil route here.  I will give Bioware time to try and make it right.  After that if I am not satisfied, then I walk away.  Being angry/agressive isn't going to make anything better or help our rep in the media.

This, of course, is just my opinion.  Feel free to follow your gut!  This just may not be the thread for it.

[Kyria Nyriese]

I am with the others here who are saying, this is not the time nor is it the place for this. We are getting a response, they are making the EC DLC, come summer we will find out if they did what was right or not. Then we can take things up a notch if needed, however, right now, we need to be patient and wait.

[TamiBx]

Computim wrote...

You've got me chuckling now... I've got mental picture of people burning Alliance Military flags now and C-Sec having to bring out the riot shields.

Omg...don't give me more ideas!! Hahah.

I'm already laughing here because I mentioned to my friend that the side quests almost made me believe that Shepard had become the UPS guy, and she said "A special delivery for a Mr...Harbinger -- Why hello there, star child" 


I need to find a picture of people ripping their shirts in the middle of a conference and I need a Shepard dressed up in UPS outfit...

[Goodwood]

Computim wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...

I don't think this is the place either. 

If you owned a business and people stood on your property telling people not to buy your products would you let if continue?

I agree that in the corporate world change is only brought about because of money but try to think about this from their point of view.

You have to. Is called right to peacefully assemble.

IN the online world, as long as you are polite. Is the same. ALthough they have the right o ban us if the zhit the extended cut as I expect them to. That will hurt their PR worse.

Either way I figure this will be a fiasco for them. BUt liek garrus. there is a small chance I will be pleasantly surprise either way. Either because I was right and they are going tos crew up by trying to explain why their crappy ending works... which still means is crappy. Or I will be surprise because they proove me wrong.

Like my brother garrus, I'm a apragmatic and a bit of a pessimist. Works wonders in a duo .

Right to peaceful assembly doesn't extend to private property... otherwise I could bring a group of protesters into your house and protest your choice of socks.  By the way, you should be publically flogged for wearing red, blue and green socks, just saying.

Hence my original statement.

Thirty-five hundred pages and not a single case of moderator intervention, to me, speaks much, much louder than any vast horde or unruly mob, no matter the size, no matter the message, possibly could insofar as this specific forum goes. We continue to offer support and succor to those who have felt themselves wronged by the ending of ME3. We continue to make our presence felt, to let the devs and publishers know that we're not going away.

We continue to hold the line.

One of the basics of military strategy is, when you've established a defensive line and are under attack, you wait for that attack to peter out and your antagonists to retreat to their own lines before you begin the counteroffensive if it is warranted. Consciously or not, a lot of us feel as though we've been assaulted by the ending, and the HTL and Retake movements have become our bunkers, our safe refuges while we wait for the "enemy" (metaphorically-speaking) to make their next move. If they give us what they want, vindicating our defensive stand, then we greet them with open arms and the war is over for everybody—no muss, no fuss, no casualties.

If we are left wanting, however, and that want is sufficiently justified, then we can discuss further moves.

[Laterali]

I think the most constructive thing we can do in the meantime is continue posting in the feedback thread, and continue using this thread for the daily news. If either thread starts slowing down, it'll be easy to forget us. Send letters and emails to EA and Bioware explaining why you weren't satisfied with the ending. Not just "the ending sux!" I've seen that sent to their twitter pages too many times. and it hurts us more than them.

But the main thing is to remember they plan on releasing more content after the EC DLC. If the EC doesn't satisfy us, the best course of action is to boycott any future content they release. The problem there is, when it comes down to it, many people lack the self control to actually do it.

[Computim]

TamiBx wrote...

Computim wrote...

You've got me chuckling now... I've got mental picture of people burning Alliance Military flags now and C-Sec having to bring out the riot shields.

Omg...don't give me more ideas!! Hahah.

I'm already laughing here because I mentioned to my friend that the side quests almost made me believe that Shepard had become the UPS guy, and she said "A special delivery for a Mr...Harbinger -- Why hello there, star child" 

I need to find a picture of people ripping their shirts in the middle of a conference and I need a Shepard dressed up in UPS outfit...

ROFL... I really hope HarbyTheReaper gets some ideas here hahaha.

Well.. give it time, some of the other batallions seem to be more inclined to be the rip off the shirts type.  *makes snide comment about Battalion Discipline outside of the elite BSN corps*

[G Kevin]

I wanted to ask you guys, have you ever walked by a construction site and chuckle when someone says "hold the line!"

[VonVerrikan]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

I am with the others here who are saying, this is not the time nor is it the place for this. We are getting a response, they are making the EC DLC, come summer we will find out if they did what was right or not. Then we can take things up a notch if needed, however, right now, we need to be patient and wait.

Getting a response does not mean we should ever stop. Why should anyone stop when the broken endings are being explained rather than fixed? I didn't ask for closure on bad endings, I asked for endings that made sense and suited Mass Effect. That's not what I'm getting.

So.. no.

[TamiBx]

Computim wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Omg...don't give me more ideas!! Hahah.

I'm already laughing here because I mentioned to my friend that the side quests almost made me believe that Shepard had become the UPS guy, and she said "A special delivery for a Mr...Harbinger -- Why hello there, star child" 

I need to find a picture of people ripping their shirts in the middle of a conference and I need a Shepard dressed up in UPS outfit...

ROFL... I really hope HarbyTheReaper gets some ideas here hahaha.

Well.. give it time, some of the other batallions seem to be more inclined to be the rip off the shirts type.  *makes snide comment about Battalion Discipline outside of the elite BSN corps*

...I'm going to make a twitter account called Shepard the UPS guy or something like that and tweet HarbyTheReaper 

I didn't know we were elite now, sir. Are we like the N7? Haha. Though I don't even know my ranking...or what I'm doing 

[Kyria Nyriese]

VonVerrikan wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

I am with the others here who are saying, this is not the time nor is it the place for this. We are getting a response, they are making the EC DLC, come summer we will find out if they did what was right or not. Then we can take things up a notch if needed, however, right now, we need to be patient and wait.

Getting a response does not mean we should ever stop. Why should anyone stop when the broken endings are being explained rather than fixed? I didn't ask for closure on bad endings, I asked for endings that made sense and suited Mass Effect. That's not what I'm getting.

So.. no.

I'm not saying we go away and just say it's done.  I am saying that this is not the time for an offensive, this is the time for planning and patience - preparing our strategy - while we wait and see what comes.  I'm not that optomistic about what I've read about the EC DLC, but I honestly do not think that now is the time for us to go ballistic with this.  Like someone else said here, most likely all that will get is this thread closed, then where will we be?