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[g_bassi13]

Yeah, I'm not exactly sold on this draw the line movement. It's not that I think sitting around waiting for Bioware to come up with something is going to turn out well, or that further pressuring them on the DLC will cause them to half-ass it in panic... No, that's not it. It's just that I don't know that standing up and yelling about it is going to do anything at this point other than have them paint you in a negative light.

I mean if they ever actually wanted to listen, I'm sure they would have listened by this point (for the record I don't think they have)

[toffeetrooper]

xHezz90 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

roche was a member of the kings courtand the leader of the blue stripes, the kings own special forses he may have started on the street but was given position by the king
 
and summer is such a vague time period i would like a date, or even a month.

Still isn't a noble though lol.

I agree with you, a month would be helpful "summer" is so vague, it could be next summer lol.

next summer  please dont say that again.

as for roche, my interpretation of someone given position by a king makes them a noble(might be wrong on that *shrugs* ) member of the court is fine and still links the two charactors.

[DJBare]

GroverA125 wrote...
Anyone get a link for the quote he said on twitter? I strongly recall one in which he said something along the lines of "the extended cut was one of the things I was referring to when I said it'd make you want to keep hold of your game forever". Not sure though, it was posted somewhere here, about 700 or so pages back, wasn't it?

I rest my case, it appears the group is not even prepared, this is priority stuff, get your case together before any other plans.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

GroverA125 wrote...


Anyone get a link for the quote he said on twitter? I strongly recall one in which he said something along the lines of "the extended cut was one of the things I was referring to when I said it'd make you want to keep hold of your game forever". Not sure though, it was posted somewhere here, about 700 or so pages back, wasn't it?

You and Mr Connery hold a point though, I 'm not sure whether it was actually said or just hinted at. Could just be a chinese whispers issue.

I think this is the one you are all talking about:

https://twitter.com/...928555408211968 

[firstarioch]

xHezz90 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

roche was a member of the kings courtand the leader of the blue stripes, the kings own special forses he may have started on the street but was given position by the king
 
and summer is such a vague time period i would like a date, or even a month.

Still isn't a noble though lol.

I agree with you, a month would be helpful "summer" is so vague, it could be next summer lol.

Summmer  finishes on 21st of September .
may is almost upon us...
So within 5 months we wil have it...
I dont mind even it being delayed ...As long as they get it right and include extra bits....

I can just imagine when We finally download it...and anticipation of it...seeing...it...
I just want it good So we dont have to come back here and raise hell anyomre....
I would love to open a thread where I can just talk to all of you ..i dont know about more pasta recipes...lol
Not just that huge cloud Of Endings looming over us here....

Modifié par firstarioch, 19 avril 2012 - 11:35 .

[VivaLaWhatsername]

toffeetrooper wrote...

next summer  please dont say that again.

as for roche, my interpretation of someone given position by a king makes them a noble(might be wrong on that *shrugs* ) member of the court is fine and still links the two charactors.

OK I promise, I would flip my lid if that was true though lol.

"Nobility, a hereditary caste" 

[DJBare]

xHezz90 wrote...

I think this is the one you are all talking about:

https://twitter.com/...928555408211968 

I cannot get on twitter, do we know the question that was asked to get that response?

[toffeetrooper]

DJBare wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I think this is the one you are all talking about:

https://twitter.com/...928555408211968 

I cannot get on twitter, do we know the question that was asked to get that response?

"Extended cut was one of the things I alluded to. We are working our butts off to make this amazing, gratifying, and over to you ASAP."

no question on the link

[GroverA125]

xHezz90 wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...


Anyone get a link for the quote he said on twitter? I strongly recall one in which he said something along the lines of "the extended cut was one of the things I was referring to when I said it'd make you want to keep hold of your game forever". Not sure though, it was posted somewhere here, about 700 or so pages back, wasn't it?

You and Mr Connery hold a point though, I 'm not sure whether it was actually said or just hinted at. Could just be a chinese whispers issue.

I think this is the one you are all talking about:

https://twitter.com/...928555408211968 

Bingo. That's the one, but as I feared, it's too indirect to be able to link them, I suppose, shouldn't be usable unless someone were to ask him to give a straight, undeniable answer.

And DJBare, I'm not part of this group who are saying about getting aggressive, I'm only saying that we still have ground to stand on if this does turn out how we fear it will.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

DJBare wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I think this is the one you are all talking about:

https://twitter.com/...928555408211968 

I cannot get on twitter, do we know the question that was asked to get that response?

Not that I can see no. I can't really be bummed to search through loads of tweets to find out for positive though to be perfectly honest.

[evisneffo]

g_bassi13 wrote...

 It's just that I don't know that standing up and yelling about it is going to do anything at this point other than have them paint you in a negative light.

Hmmm ... The more I re-read the OP the less certain I feel about it. It sounds a lot like your description really. For something that isn't intended to be a fight it sounds outright hostile in places.

[DJBare]

xHezz90 wrote...

Not that I can see no. I can't really be bummed to search through loads of tweets to find out for positive though to be perfectly honest.

I can see the statement, it's just the question I cannot see, but Grover has just responded in this thread, and I've recieved a PM from Mastermadskills they are thinking things over.

[firstarioch]

What are we discussing now ?

[VivaLaWhatsername]

DJBare wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Not that I can see no. I can't really be bummed to search through loads of tweets to find out for positive though to be perfectly honest.

I can see the statement, it's just the question I cannot see, but Grover has just responded in this thread, and I've recieved a PM from Mastermadskills they are thinking things over.

I'm not too sure there was a question. I think it was a statement.

Ah right, to be perfectly honest at the mo I am trying to stay out of all of it. It's like being in politics or something lol.

[Cybermortis]

DJBare wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Gamble has mentioned on more than one occassion that it was already in the mix, and that it was one of the things he was referring to when he said about upcoming content that would make us "want to keep our copies forever". I believe that this was not just before the movement appeared, but also before the official release date for the game. No-one ever told us that they were making this DLC just for us, if Gamble is to be believed, then they'd already said they were going to do an extended cut, and that they moved it forwards due to the "vocal minority". In other words, they moved it forwards in an attempt to shut us up before more DLC came out.

Respectively I did ask for proof, no offence but someone else's interpretation of a statement is not proof, you need to make the connection between those words and the free extended DLC, I mean a proper connection, eg
"MG: yes the extended DLC was already in the mix"

So I ask again, please provide a link that shows Mike Gamble referring to the extended DLC?

It sounds like someone is confusing 'The Truth' DLC with the expanded ending DLC. 

'The Truth' was, for those who forgot, an alledged DLC project that was 'leaked' on 4Chan just after the games release. The 'leak' was little more than a screen shot of the (accidentally) leaked MP DLC with some writing photoshopped into it. This claimed that the released ending was not the 'real' ending, and that Bioware was going to release the real ending at a later date.

Beyond the 4Chan 'leak' there is/was zero evidence this was true, and it would certainly be a little strange if they had such a DLC in the works and still had to call most of their writing staff in to finish it - if it had been planned you'd assume most of the plot would already had been written and they wouldn't need to bring in more writers.

[GroverA125]

DJBare wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Not that I can see no. I can't really be bummed to search through loads of tweets to find out for positive though to be perfectly honest.

I can see the statement, it's just the question I cannot see, but Grover has just responded in this thread, and I've recieved a PM from Mastermadskills they are thinking things over.

I was never thinking anything in the first place, I've literally just said that we (this movement, not any other one) do have a reason to continue this movement, even if the EC doesn't fufill our hopes.

[evisneffo]

firstarioch wrote...

What are we discussing now ?

This and this?

[g_bassi13]

evisneffo wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

 It's just that I don't know that standing up and yelling about it is going to do anything at this point other than have them paint you in a negative light.

Hmmm ... The more I re-read the OP the less certain I feel about it. It sounds a lot like your description really. For something that isn't intended to be a fight it sounds outright hostile in places.

My statement were based on the OP itself, but after reading some other posts in the thread, I'm unsure again. It doesn't sound too bad. It sounds like it's simply an attempt to be more than simply passive, and if it's that, then there's no problem with it.

[DJBare]

GroverA125 wrote...
I was never thinking anything in the first place, I've literally just said that we (this movement, not any other one) do have a reason to continue this movement, even if the EC doesn't fufill our hopes.

Before we start getting the wrong impression of each other, I agree with the movement continuing, my only concern is the way it continues, but I certainly will not presume to tell you how to continue, it's the bottom text in my sig.

[GroverA125]

evisneffo wrote...

firstarioch wrote...

What are we discussing now ?

This and this?

The latter has been a misconception, I'm afraid to say. I'm not here to say we should go around launching threats everywhere. This has been an issue with me saying that we still have reason to complain, even if the EC is free, in something that is going on about getting agressive. Probably my bad, sorry about this.

And Mr Connery, I'm saying to keep it civil. Was just a misconception with the quote, I'm all for continuing what we are currently doing here (but a couple more people talking and a more alive thread would be nice), just so you know. If this goes as we fear it will, I will continue to voice my dis-satisfaction on this matter and won't be buying from them again, That's as far as I'll go. No house-burning or hate mail.

Modifié par GroverA125, 19 avril 2012 - 12:09 .

[Phoenix NL]

g_bassi13 wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

 It's just that I don't know that standing up and yelling about it is going to do anything at this point other than have them paint you in a negative light.

Hmmm ... The more I re-read the OP the less certain I feel about it. It sounds a lot like your description really. For something that isn't intended to be a fight it sounds outright hostile in places.

My statement were based on the OP itself, but after reading some other posts in the thread, I'm unsure again. It doesn't sound too bad. It sounds like it's simply an attempt to be more than simply passive, and if it's that, then there's no problem with it.

Ok but let me ask you something. What do you honestly think standing up and shouting is going to achieve aside from more bad publicity? BioWare have already come back and said they are doing the EC dlc, there's nothing else that they realistically can do at this moment. They themselves have said that they will take the time to do it to the standard it should be.

[firstarioch]

DJBare wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...
I was never thinking anything in the first place, I've literally just said that we (this movement, not any other one) do have a reason to continue this movement, even if the EC doesn't fufill our hopes.

Before we start getting the wrong impression of each other, I agree with the movement continuing, my only concern is the way it continues, but I certainly will not presume to tell you how to continue, it's the bottom text in my sig.

I m not that inclined to continue the struggle now... We have achieved our aim in my opinion for now...
Untill DLc comes out ...
I agree we have to still hold the line , be here, keep a vigil , send ideas still !! etc...
 We have been heard and they are doing something... If it meets out expectations than job done ..if not than we raise more hell again....
I think also that the whole game industry watched this and took notice ...So we can assume that things will change for good for a while....
But going all gung ho now again defeats the purpose of everyrthing and is reactionary to me...
Maybe some people want their mark on history etc.. I dont know...
but personally I belive patience now is our ally...

[Mastermadskills]

DJBare wrote...

Mokiki wrote...

Well most of the press are already calling us whiney so but I agree with Phoenix and Connery

So true, so why exactly are HTW giving away free ammo to the press, geeze ammo is expensive.

Stop right there.  All of you.

Stop with all this "aggressive" nonsense.  My main post is written to galvanize the troops, but any action we take will NOT be handing ammo to the press.


If we enact what we are working on, it will be INTELLIGENTLY.  We will be firm, not aggressive.

Get this aggressive thing out of your heads.  I am the one leading the whole thing, and I'm not going to let that happen.  All we plan on doing is reminding BioWare and EA what is at stake should they fail to shape up:

Our future money.

Modifié par Mastermadskills, 19 avril 2012 - 12:27 .

[g_bassi13]

Phoenix NL wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

 It's just that I don't know that standing up and yelling about it is going to do anything at this point other than have them paint you in a negative light.

Hmmm ... The more I re-read the OP the less certain I feel about it. It sounds a lot like your description really. For something that isn't intended to be a fight it sounds outright hostile in places.

My statement were based on the OP itself, but after reading some other posts in the thread, I'm unsure again. It doesn't sound too bad. It sounds like it's simply an attempt to be more than simply passive, and if it's that, then there's no problem with it.

Ok but let me ask you something. What do you honestly think standing up and shouting is going to achieve aside from more bad publicity? BioWare have already come back and said they are doing the EC dlc, there's nothing else that they realistically can do at this moment. They themselves have said that they will take the time to do it to the standard it should be.

... Uh, did you read my first post? lol. That's exactly what I said.

[Mastermadskills]

One more time, just so everyone gets it straight.

I'm coordinating the whole damn thing, and I'm not going to let it turn into any kind of aggressive anger.


We will remind them of our concerns and state that they stand to lose our business if they DON'T address those concerns.

We will do it all at once on a massive scale, and they will be forced to sit up and take notice instead of ignoring us as always.

Modifié par Mastermadskills, 19 avril 2012 - 12:16 .