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[Laterali]

Mokiki wrote...


In germany there was a politician who placed gamers in general in the same category as child molesters/rapists.

Generalisation = awesome.

That's insane. But I guess no more insane than American politicians claiming video games are the cause for murders.

I wonder if anyone has ever done a case study on what draws certain people to a certain game.

I mean, certain games would draw certain people I would think. Now I'm not trying to generalize, but when I watched my friend play COD online, the kind of conversations coming from the other players were way different than what I've heard on ME3's multiplayer. And their forum is waaaay different from this one.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Laterali wrote...


That's insane. But I guess no more insane than American politicians claiming video games are the cause for murders.

I wonder if anyone has ever done a case study on what draws certain people to a certain game.

I mean, certain games would draw certain people I would think. Now I'm not trying to generalize, but when I watched my friend play COD online, the kind of conversations coming from the other players were way different than what I've heard on ME3's multiplayer. And their forum is waaaay different from this one.

I am sure cod players would love an ending to their campaign with a massive explosion/ they would not care becuase they never play that far through anyway... maybe we can trade ours for an ending that makes sense

[-PG-Skyre]

Laterali wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

OK sorry guys this is off topic but have you read this?
*for Assassin's Creed fans*

http://www.egmnow.co...t-infringement/

It's a wonder why the world outside gaming looks at us like we're freaks. Look at the comments on that article. All of the comments consist of; A, Bashing Americans. B, Implying that they're going to kill the guy suing. C, Chaining swear words together in a nonsensical sentence of bad grammar and misspelled words.

Ugh, and we're placed into the same group as these people.

One thing to keep in mind, it is easy to generalise us. We have no other way to make our voices heard, which leads us to be in close proximity to sub-standard remarks.

Plus, doesn't matter anyways. People don't see us as being as mature as movie-goers or (for the most part) musical "connoisseurs". Public opinion is that we are a bunch of immature, pimple-faced virgins that sit in our parents basement our entire lives. So in the end, even IF we all did post with the brains we have been given, it wouldn't matter.


That makes me think of another issue...why do gamers get so easily ignored, but people with problems about music or films are listened to? What seperates us from them? I hardly think the fact their entertainment is passive really effects views that much

[gorgoth]

Laterali wrote...

Mokiki wrote...


In germany there was a politician who placed gamers in general in the same category as child molesters/rapists.

Generalisation = awesome.

That's insane. But I guess no more insane than American politicians claiming video games are the cause for murders.

I wonder if anyone has ever done a case study on what draws certain people to a certain game.

I mean, certain games would draw certain people I would think. Now I'm not trying to generalize, but when I watched my friend play COD online, the kind of conversations coming from the other players were way different than what I've heard on ME3's multiplayer. And their forum is waaaay different from this one.

The issue with such arguments is they assume the viewing of violence is something new to this era. They outright ignore events like the gladiatorial fights in Rome or bearing, hope that’s the right name for it, which was popular in medieval England which is a sport in which they tied a bear to a post and released dogs on it. Not only that but if video games and movies are the root of all violence, then what was the cause of it such acts before those mediums existed?

Modifié par gorgoth, 19 avril 2012 - 03:14 .

[BigglesFlysAgain]

gorgoth wrote...


The issue with such arguments is they assume the viewing of violence is something new to this era. They outright ignore events like the gladiatorial fights in Rome or bearing, hope that’s the right name for it, which was popular in medieval England which is a sport in which they tied a bear to a post and released dogs on in. Not only that but it video games and movies are the root of all violence, then what was the cause of it such acts before those mediums existed?

Exactly, go back in time a few decades and people are blaming TV for all the violence in the world, and then comics, and Films ect...

[chmarr]

well today was HELL for me and its still HELLISH, i had to get 8 teeth extrated today, i had no choice after being hit in the face by a flying biker who crashed into the car i was in.

it wasent our fault, the cops were chasing the biker who decided to go down the wrong side of the road, my nephew john slammed the brakes on and we were at a dead stop when the biker misjudged the distance , we could see him skidding and theres nothing to do but try and duck.

the **** booted me in the face trying to get back through the window he smashed in with hs body the nippledick kicked me so hard it broke all my lower front teeth, i'm not that long back from hospital, apart from almost being killed and having teeth yanked out all i have are some scratches from flying glass and one hellva sore face from being booted in the face.

worst is i CANNOT EAT ANYTHING for at LEAST 24 hours and i cant drink any hot of warm liquids and i cannot drink any carbonated liquids incase of infection.

but lucky for me i DONT NEED TO PAY FOR IT, the national health service in the uk is FREE TO EVERYONE but when i do work i pay national insurance which is me paying cash to the goverment for services rendered type of thing.

but the biker, all my nephew wanted to do was kick the chit out the guy, he had just bought his car 20 mins before the accident, the cops had to restrain him as my nephew was bouncing the guys head off the guys bike fuel tank lol.

so yeah sore face, no lower teeth yeah bad day and i CANT EAT OR DRINK ~CRIES~ AND I AM STARVING

[cyborgchris]

Mokiki wrote...
In germany there was a politician who placed gamers in general in the same category as child molesters/rapists.

Generalisation = awesome.

but this particular politician throws his uneducated BS in on every popular topic, just to get some attention he would lack otherwise ... so his credibilty is nil infact

everytime I read that this particular person commented on topic X ... i go

[DJBare]

chmarr wrote...

well today was HELL for me and its still HELLISH, i had to get 8 teeth extrated today, i had no choice after being hit in the face by a flying biker who crashed into the car i was in.

it wasent our fault, the cops were chasing the biker who decided to go down the wrong side of the road, my nephew john slammed the brakes on and we were at a dead stop when the biker misjudged the distance , we could see him skidding and theres nothing to do but try and duck.

the **** booted me in the face trying to get back through the window he smashed in with hs body the nippledick kicked me so hard it broke all my lower front teeth, i'm not that long back from hospital, apart from almost being killed and having teeth yanked out all i have are some scratches from flying glass and one hellva sore face from being booted in the face.

OUCH!
And I thought stubbing my toe was bad, I'd ask if you are okay, but that seems lame considering.

[toffeetrooper]

chmarr wrote...
but the biker, all my nephew wanted to do was kick the chit out the guy, he had just bought his car 20 mins before the accident, the cops had to restrain him as my nephew was bouncing the guys head off the guys bike fuel tank lol.

so yeah sore face, no lower teeth yeah bad day and i CANT EAT OR DRINK ~CRIES~ AND I AM STARVING

bloody hell lad, would ask if your ok but its a bit of a redundent question. dont blame your nephew( had a funny image of a lad bouncing a helmeted guys head off a fuel tank- sorry) many people would have done the same, i cant speak for him of course, but the site of one of my family members injured becouse of an idiot would have made me act the same way.

[Atrocity]

Nex_Legis wrote...
The way you put it it means something else, rather informal and perverted. Just thought you should know .

See, I managed to make everything into a dirty joke again 

[sagevallant]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

gorgoth wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Goodwood wrote...
Would people start hurling rocks at me if I came out and said that I've never really cared for the idea of The Witcher or its sequel? You see, I watched Yahtzee's reviews of both games, and while he and I do differ in our definition of what constitutes a good game, the fact that he is consistent in his opinions means that a solid baseline for comparison can be made.

Because of this I know that, like him, I would not find either game to be fun and entertaining.

I know hours late, so Good morning folks.

No, if they did I would be unhappy with them, because we are all entitled to enjoy what we enjoy and just because someone does not enjoy something I enjoy does not demean my enjoyment of it.  It's called personal preference for a reason

I watch Yahtzee's reviews on both of them and he mentions in both that he never got very far in the game because he disliked the gameplay. This shows that his personal perference made it impossible for him to give an unbaised review.

I like Yahtzee and his reviews, however, I always take them with a grain of salt because of that very reason.  He tends to give a personal review not an objective one.  This is my opinion not an objective one :innocent:

Yahtzee is not a serious reviewer, he's an entertainer. The running gag about how he's under contract to rip into the games he reviews should be a tipoff. 

Usually his reviews are grounded in real complaints about the game, but he's only going to give you the broadest review possible. Not that he isn't hilarious, just that you'd almost be better off watching a game trailer and making up your own jokes about it as far as figuring out if you'd like the game.

As for the Witcher / Witcher 2, unless they got rid of the constant combo clicking combat I won't be up for 2. I got about as far as the first quest hub in Witcher before I was tired of the game.

[Laterali]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

One thing to keep in mind, it is easy to generalise us. We have no other way to make our voices heard, which leads us to be in close proximity to sub-standard remarks.

Plus, doesn't matter anyways. People don't see us as being as mature as movie-goers or (for the most part) musical "connoisseurs". Public opinion is that we are a bunch of immature, pimple-faced virgins that sit in our parents basement our entire lives. So in the end, even IF we all did post with the brains we have been given, it wouldn't matter.


That makes me think of another issue...why do gamers get so easily ignored, but people with problems about music or films are listened to? What seperates us from them? I hardly think the fact their entertainment is passive really effects views that much

The problem is they see what we show them. Look at our limited venues for voicing our opinion. Gaming forums, gaming review sites, and television shows like Attack of The Show.

Attack of the Show is the most asinine program I've ever seen. They have Sarah Underwood dress up in a super hero costume where her superpower is her breasts or something. Their number one comodity is fart jokes, and they talk in person like they're tweeting.

Then we have facebook articles like the one linked, where the smartest comment is, "Lol, dat guy is dum." If gamers would actually spend the extra few seconds to spell correctly and not just spew every piece of garbage that comes out of their mouth, we would be held up to the same level as every other consumer.

Look at the gaming review sites. They've turned on their target audience and have called us whiners. We're their bread and butter and they turned on us. See that from outside the gaming community, and it's easy to generalize.


The fact is that a large majority of gamers act like children in their mother's basement, so that's how the world treats us. If everywhere was more like this forum, where people from all walks of life, from all over the world, spoke with intelligence instead of the mindless gibberish that was on that article, we'd probably be looked at a different way. We've done this to ourselves.

[sagevallant]

toffeetrooper wrote...

chmarr wrote...
but the biker, all my nephew wanted to do was kick the chit out the guy, he had just bought his car 20 mins before the accident, the cops had to restrain him as my nephew was bouncing the guys head off the guys bike fuel tank lol.

so yeah sore face, no lower teeth yeah bad day and i CANT EAT OR DRINK ~CRIES~ AND I AM STARVING

bloody hell lad, would ask if your ok but its a bit of a redundent question. dont blame your nephew( had a funny image of a lad bouncing a helmeted guys head off a fuel tank- sorry) many people would have done the same, i cant speak for him of course, but the site of one of my family members injured becouse of an idiot would have made me act the same way.

I would certainly hope that the beating was due to your injuries rather than the car. Cars can be replaced.

[Matt_gekko88]

Look BioWare, that is how you do it: at least he has some kind of backbone.

[Phoenix NL]

Back again all, did everyone play nice while I was away?

[chmarr]

after a quick flick through of the recent posts all i can say is this.

lawyer jack thompson was disbarrd after he tried to sue rockstar and take two over the GTA series, he went as far as sending cease and desist letters to advertisers telling them rockstar was being sued for copyright theft (basicly he lied), rockstar counter sued and won, they just wanted him to say sorry which he did.

when GTA4 came out this teenager went on a killing spree, jack thompson got him to say that GTA4 made him do it, later on the same teenager was caught in thompsons lies.

now heres the GOOD NEWS.
it HAS been proven that people who play violent games are much more CALMER and less stressed, games like any ofthe GTA games or any of the mortal combat games are seen as stress relefe.
thiswas a study done in the USA and in the UK, some companys are now installing game systems to allow there workers get some stress worked out.

they found that games such as call of duty caused stress and actually made the worker have more violent reactions in certain curcumstances.

they also found out that young kids in the 12-16 age group who play 18 rated games (MA rating in the usa) also become less violent and less stressed, now we would all love it to allow anyone play any games but then it would be a stagnent pond of "oh look another game ~yawn~".

to put gamers into a peado / sex offender group is just .......... INSAINE, so lets see, a gamer kills thousands of pixel people and is classed as a dog humping, kiddy fiddling sex mad perv.

i'm sorry but i do not want to offend any german people here and i do not want to offend everyone here at what i am thinking right now ........... seriously if i said what i'm thinking i'd be banned from the forums.

but to give a taster to what i mean, germanys goverment is becoming like what a certain person in histiry tried to do and that person can not be named, now i DO know there are some germangoverment officals that are with the current times and they know what is happening with games and such and are actually trying to change certain laws in germany to be in line with the rest of the world, hell even austraila finally got round to making a new age bracket for games and movies aimed at adults.

thats political correctness gone mad.

i know germany has a lot of good poeple and even some good goverment officals who are in touch with the modern world but right now there stuck with people who are thinking of the old ways and so on.

[sagevallant]

Laterali wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...

One thing to keep in mind, it is easy to generalise us. We have no other way to make our voices heard, which leads us to be in close proximity to sub-standard remarks.

Plus, doesn't matter anyways. People don't see us as being as mature as movie-goers or (for the most part) musical "connoisseurs". Public opinion is that we are a bunch of immature, pimple-faced virgins that sit in our parents basement our entire lives. So in the end, even IF we all did post with the brains we have been given, it wouldn't matter.


That makes me think of another issue...why do gamers get so easily ignored, but people with problems about music or films are listened to? What seperates us from them? I hardly think the fact their entertainment is passive really effects views that much

The problem is they see what we show them. Look at our limited venues for voicing our opinion. Gaming forums, gaming review sites, and television shows like Attack of The Show.

Attack of the Show is the most asinine program I've ever seen. They have Sarah Underwood dress up in a super hero costume where her superpower is her breasts or something. Their number one comodity is fart jokes, and they talk in person like they're tweeting.

Then we have facebook articles like the one linked, where the smartest comment is, "Lol, dat guy is dum." If gamers would actually spend the extra few seconds to spell correctly and not just spew every piece of garbage that comes out of their mouth, we would be held up to the same level as every other consumer.

Look at the gaming review sites. They've turned on their target audience and have called us whiners. We're their bread and butter and they turned on us. See that from outside the gaming community, and it's easy to generalize.


The fact is that a large majority of gamers act like children in their mother's basement, so that's how the world treats us. If everywhere was more like this forum, where people from all walks of life, from all over the world, spoke with intelligence instead of the mindless gibberish that was on that article, we'd probably be looked at a different way. We've done this to ourselves.

This is why I support Total Biscuit.

[cyborgchris]

chmarr wrote...

well today was HELL for me and its still HELLISH, i had to get 8 teeth extrated today, i had no choice after being hit in the face by a flying biker who crashed into the car i was in.

it wasent our fault, the cops were chasing the biker who decided to go down the wrong side of the road, my nephew john slammed the brakes on and we were at a dead stop when the biker misjudged the distance , we could see him skidding and theres nothing to do but try and duck.

the **** booted me in the face trying to get back through the window he smashed in with hs body the nippledick kicked me so hard it broke all my lower front teeth, i'm not that long back from hospital, apart from almost being killed and having teeth yanked out all i have are some scratches from flying glass and one hellva sore face from being booted in the face.

worst is i CANNOT EAT ANYTHING for at LEAST 24 hours and i cant drink any hot of warm liquids and i cannot drink any carbonated liquids incase of infection.

but lucky for me i DONT NEED TO PAY FOR IT, the national health service in the uk is FREE TO EVERYONE but when i do work i pay national insurance which is me paying cash to the goverment for services rendered type of thing.

but the biker, all my nephew wanted to do was kick the chit out the guy, he had just bought his car 20 mins before the accident, the cops had to restrain him as my nephew was bouncing the guys head off the guys bike fuel tank lol.

so yeah sore face, no lower teeth yeah bad day and i CANT EAT OR DRINK ~CRIES~ AND I AM STARVING

ouch ... that even hurt just reading about it

[Phoenix NL]

cyborgchris wrote...

chmarr wrote...

well today was HELL for me and its still HELLISH, i had to get 8 teeth extrated today, i had no choice after being hit in the face by a flying biker who crashed into the car i was in.

it wasent our fault, the cops were chasing the biker who decided to go down the wrong side of the road, my nephew john slammed the brakes on and we were at a dead stop when the biker misjudged the distance , we could see him skidding and theres nothing to do but try and duck.

the **** booted me in the face trying to get back through the window he smashed in with hs body the nippledick kicked me so hard it broke all my lower front teeth, i'm not that long back from hospital, apart from almost being killed and having teeth yanked out all i have are some scratches from flying glass and one hellva sore face from being booted in the face.

worst is i CANNOT EAT ANYTHING for at LEAST 24 hours and i cant drink any hot of warm liquids and i cannot drink any carbonated liquids incase of infection.

but lucky for me i DONT NEED TO PAY FOR IT, the national health service in the uk is FREE TO EVERYONE but when i do work i pay national insurance which is me paying cash to the goverment for services rendered type of thing.

but the biker, all my nephew wanted to do was kick the chit out the guy, he had just bought his car 20 mins before the accident, the cops had to restrain him as my nephew was bouncing the guys head off the guys bike fuel tank lol.

so yeah sore face, no lower teeth yeah bad day and i CANT EAT OR DRINK ~CRIES~ AND I AM STARVING

ouch ... that even hurt just reading about it

Oh no poor you! *big hugs* I'm glad you're ok all things considered!

[firstarioch]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Back again all, did everyone play nice while I was away?

hello .
Me and you were having discussion and verbal jousting with HTL people.
I agreed with you...and I elaborated on it...
he didnt ...
i just cabe back myself...and reading all pages...

[firstarioch]

Phoenix NL wrote...

cyborgchris wrote...

chmarr wrote...

well today was HELL for me and its still HELLISH, i had to get 8 teeth extrated today, i had no choice after being hit in the face by a flying biker who crashed into the car i was in.

it wasent our fault, the cops were chasing the biker who decided to go down the wrong side of the road, my nephew john slammed the brakes on and we were at a dead stop when the biker misjudged the distance , we could see him skidding and theres nothing to do but try and duck.

the **** booted me in the face trying to get back through the window he smashed in with hs body the nippledick kicked me so hard it broke all my lower front teeth, i'm not that long back from hospital, apart from almost being killed and having teeth yanked out all i have are some scratches from flying glass and one hellva sore face from being booted in the face.

worst is i CANNOT EAT ANYTHING for at LEAST 24 hours and i cant drink any hot of warm liquids and i cannot drink any carbonated liquids incase of infection.

but lucky for me i DONT NEED TO PAY FOR IT, the national health service in the uk is FREE TO EVERYONE but when i do work i pay national insurance which is me paying cash to the goverment for services rendered type of thing.

but the biker, all my nephew wanted to do was kick the chit out the guy, he had just bought his car 20 mins before the accident, the cops had to restrain him as my nephew was bouncing the guys head off the guys bike fuel tank lol.

so yeah sore face, no lower teeth yeah bad day and i CANT EAT OR DRINK ~CRIES~ AND I AM STARVING

ouch ... that even hurt just reading about it

Oh no poor you! *big hugs* I'm glad you're ok all things considered!

My symphaties with you m8... If it was me I would have killed him... And than claimed diminished responsibility in court after...Bstard

[DJBare]

chmarr wrote...

after a quick flick through of the recent posts all i can say is this.

lawyer jack thompson was disbarrd after he tried to sue rockstar and take two over the GTA series, he went as far as sending cease and desist letters to advertisers telling them rockstar was being sued for copyright theft (basicly he lied), rockstar counter sued and won, they just wanted him to say sorry which he did.

Jack Thompson just loves the bandwagon, after his stint with Rockstar, he offered his "services" to gaming companies as an advisor, the story is around the internet somewhere, he's a joke that's not even funny.

[chmarr]

DJBare wrote...

chmarr wrote...

well today was HELL for me and its still HELLISH, i had to get 8 teeth extrated today, i had no choice after being hit in the face by a flying biker who crashed into the car i was in.

it wasent our fault, the cops were chasing the biker who decided to go down the wrong side of the road, my nephew john slammed the brakes on and we were at a dead stop when the biker misjudged the distance , we could see him skidding and theres nothing to do but try and duck.

the **** booted me in the face trying to get back through the window he smashed in with hs body the nippledick kicked me so hard it broke all my lower front teeth, i'm not that long back from hospital, apart from almost being killed and having teeth yanked out all i have are some scratches from flying glass and one hellva sore face from being booted in the face.

OUCH!
And I thought stubbing my toe was bad, I'd ask if you are okay, but that seems lame considering.

i'm fine now but thanks for asking

[Haargel]

sagevallant wrote...

Haargel wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Haargel wrote...

My willpower is broken .

I don't believe in a better ending anymore. Sorry.

Buck up, we all knew this would be a hard struggle, we just have to wait and see the EC and then decide where to go from there.

 

On second thought, I love these series way to much.
Wanna know what I'm gonna do ?

Start over the whole series.

There's a little hope left.

Yeah, but then you gotta spend over an hour on the Citadel.... >.>

That hour has killed many a replay attempt at ME1

I dont mind that, I missed that in ME3, the only place to hang out was the citadel, at least in ME2 I could go to Illium, Citadel, tuchanka just to hang out for a bit.... I'm not sure where I could hang out in ME1, I think only the Citadel ? Well, no problem

Most people have an average of 40 hours gameplay on all 3 games, I easely make a 100, now you know why

Modifié par Haargel, 19 avril 2012 - 03:53 .

[chmarr]

DJBare wrote...

chmarr wrote...

after a quick flick through of the recent posts all i can say is this.

lawyer jack thompson was disbarrd after he tried to sue rockstar and take two over the GTA series, he went as far as sending cease and desist letters to advertisers telling them rockstar was being sued for copyright theft (basicly he lied), rockstar counter sued and won, they just wanted him to say sorry which he did.

Jack Thompson just loves the bandwagon, after his stint with Rockstar, he offered his "services" to gaming companies as an advisor, the story is around the internet somewhere, he's a joke that's not even funny.

yeah he's being sued by various gaming companys now for deflamination as well as other deroatory  remarks.

did you know thompson came to the uk for a holiday and when he entered the airport he was stopped and sent back to the usa on the next flight ........ seems uk securty has more infomation on him than we public know, his family were allowed in but he wasent lol