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[DifferentD17]

Patriota125 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Can't believe you're still whining about people whining about it, you are clearly no better than us.

Not whining. I've got the ultimate truth, which is Mass effect is brilliant.

Why? because it doent leave loose ends, like lost did.

You are whining and it's annoying, because you think you're right when you aren't.

[Kanmuru]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Gamingboy wrote...

Fact is, the galaxy WOULD, eventually, rebuild stronger.

orly? How do you know this "fact"? I figured those species going extinct, the countless aliens stranded on Earth, and the trillions upon trillions of deaths, and the eradication of synthetic life all but defeated the notion of the galaxy being "stronger". Assuming the Destroy ending, at least.

It would many centuries, even millenia, but with the Reapers gone, with the species of the galaxy no longer just quitting their own research and using the stuff that the precursor species/reapers had left behind, they could become stronger and better.

You don't know how science or technology works, do you?

They could come up with their own more advanced FTL technologies, maybe even make their own damn Mass Relays (the Protheans did, remember)...

The protheans made 1 relay. A prototype. It was also 1-way, and only meant for "small" transportation. 

That is clearly the mentality of someone who only wants to see the bad side of things, Do you really think Bioware will just make everyone die of starvation or lack of transport after the defeat of the reapers? Srsly ill lose all my faith in you intelectual capacity if you really think that even the worst story teller would do that... 

Of course the galaxy will survive and continue to work for a better future, the reason why the relays are always destroyed is because they need to grow on their own efforts and not by abusing the reaper tech that made the Relays

[LOLandStuff]

I just don't want my Shepard to die alone.
The RGB endings are kind of silly. That's more like multiple colours than multiple endings.

[mass_zotz]

XX55XX wrote...

Patriota125 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Can't believe you're still whining about people whining about it, you are clearly no better than us.

Not whining. I've got the ultimate truth, which is Mass effect is brilliant.

Why? because it doent leave loose ends, like lost did.

Well, it IS somewhat loose, because the ending doesn't show how the people of the galaxy cope with the loss of technology and such. It just ends, either with Shepard getting up, or the crew of the Normandy looking at where they just crashlanded. Then, boom! Credits, and a little epilogue at the end that doesn't tell you anything. 

Man you guys always beat me before I can type anything.

[Toaster27]

Ok wait, I've been gone for a few hours, saw something about Krogan posting strat guide stuff, are we good now?

[JBurnes3]

Rdubs wrote...

Gamingboy wrote...

Thing is though, plenty of great heroes, from mythology, from religion, from fiction and from real life have died without their "crew" or their loved ones near, not knowing what happened to them.

Why should Shep be any different?

Because this is a game which has been made popular by attachment to it's characters, not a literary masterpiece we are being forced to read for English class.  I fear what happened is they thought they'd try for the latter at expense of the former.  

All I know is the more you start hearing them try to defend this as "it's the journey not the destination", that admits the destination sucked balls.  

So true

[mass_zotz]

Kanmuru wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Gamingboy wrote...

Fact is, the galaxy WOULD, eventually, rebuild stronger.

orly? How do you know this "fact"? I figured those species going extinct, the countless aliens stranded on Earth, and the trillions upon trillions of deaths, and the eradication of synthetic life all but defeated the notion of the galaxy being "stronger". Assuming the Destroy ending, at least.

It would many centuries, even millenia, but with the Reapers gone, with the species of the galaxy no longer just quitting their own research and using the stuff that the precursor species/reapers had left behind, they could become stronger and better.

You don't know how science or technology works, do you?

They could come up with their own more advanced FTL technologies, maybe even make their own damn Mass Relays (the Protheans did, remember)...

The protheans made 1 relay. A prototype. It was also 1-way, and only meant for "small" transportation. 

That is clearly the mentality of someone who only wants to see the bad side of things, Do you really think Bioware will just make everyone die of starvation or lack of transport after the defeat of the reapers? Srsly ill lose all my faith in you intelectual capacity if you really think that even the worst story teller would do that... 

Of course the galaxy will survive and continue to work for a better future, the reason why the relays are always destroyed is because they need to grow on their own efforts and not by abusing the reaper tech that made the Relays

I agree with some of what you say but all people are asking for ending the relays don't get destoryed or that shepard can aleast be with the crew even they crash land. I would be okay with that type of ending, still that not that great because the whole normandy thing sucks (opinion), but I could deal with it.

[madhatterwriter]

KMYash wrote...

Question to all the people that are pro current endings/anti new endings.

Why are you so against getting ONE more ending to satisfy gamers that aren't happy with what's been leaked? Not taking away any of the current endings, just adding one. Why?

Well from what I read, some believe it will cheapen what they like of the current ending if that makes sense.

For me, I just want some sort of differienation that was said there was going to be because of choices I make or else I would have never played ME1 in the first place. Even if all of the endings are "tragic" but please, goddamn, be different plot wise instead of shades of colors! Seriously? Colors to differ the endings? That's cheap.

[Toaster27]

Also, btw, don't appreciate the whole bar code business for showing all the bioware games you've played, played em all since BG... MDK2 is still one of my faves.

[mass_zotz]

The whole journey not the destination makes sense for real life, but in a game you want a satisfying ending otherwise the replay value might be gone. At least for me.

[CerberusSoldier]

They need to admit the endings are real and deal with it . they hid the game from us claiming it was great . well its not and it sucks

[Sashimi_taco]

So people have found the flashback files for the VS and liara for the romances, but no one else?

Maybe... maybe the space edition isn't the full game..... Maybe retail copies have the full game.

[AgitatedLemon]

Kanmuru wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Gamingboy wrote...

Fact is, the galaxy WOULD, eventually, rebuild stronger.

orly? How do you know this "fact"? I figured those species going extinct, the countless aliens stranded on Earth, and the trillions upon trillions of deaths, and the eradication of synthetic life all but defeated the notion of the galaxy being "stronger". Assuming the Destroy ending, at least.

It would many centuries, even millenia, but with the Reapers gone, with the species of the galaxy no longer just quitting their own research and using the stuff that the precursor species/reapers had left behind, they could become stronger and better.

You don't know how science or technology works, do you?

They could come up with their own more advanced FTL technologies, maybe even make their own damn Mass Relays (the Protheans did, remember)...

The protheans made 1 relay. A prototype. It was also 1-way, and only meant for "small" transportation. 

That is clearly the mentality of someone who only wants to see the bad side of things, Do you really think Bioware will just make everyone die of starvation or lack of transport after the defeat of the reapers? Srsly ill lose all my faith in you intelectual capacity if you really think that even the worst story teller would do that... 

Of course the galaxy will survive and continue to work for a better future, the reason why the relays are always destroyed is because they need to grow on their own efforts and not by abusing the reaper tech that made the Relays

"Abusing" the Reaper tech?

Why do you think interplanetary travel is as easy as it is now?

Not every piece of technology in ME is traced back to the Reapers. Aside from the Relays, the Citadel, and Eezo (Unless that was retconned), the Reapers didn't really influence us THAT much. You'll notice that pretty much every species is somewhere different on the technological scale, with the salarians and asari probably topping it.

[XX55XX]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

So people have found the flashback files for the VS and liara for the romances, but no one else?

Maybe... maybe the space edition isn't the full game..... Maybe retail copies have the full game.

Doubt it. Why would they make a "special" version of the game? I doubt EA really cares about spoilers. 

[DifferentD17]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

So people have found the flashback files for the VS and liara for the romances, but no one else?

Maybe... maybe the space edition isn't the full game..... Maybe retail copies have the full game.

Hold on to any hope you can....

[RazorrX]

Firstly, again - the previous games set up that the Protheans could be beaten without the Magic Prothean space gun. They are not gods, and after we had the reaper gun tech from the wreckage of the citadel as well as better armor and shield tech we should be able to defeat them with armies and not space magic press button 1-3 for what color do you want to screw the pooch with.

Second Dragon Age Origins gave 4 endings: Dark Ritual, Alistair dies, You die, Loghain Dies. 4. Note that in 3 of the 4 you live. Not only that but all your party lives (except the one who dies and there was a way out of that). So to compare the 4 options you get in Dragon Age to the 1 option with 3 colors you get in ME3 you are in essence telling me that the ME team is not nearly as talented as the DA team was.

ME 1 and ME 2 stated that it took YEARS for the Reapers to cleanse the galaxy last cycle. Decades. They have to go 1 system at a time. We could very well have won without screwing all technology for centuries. Mass Relays were working - massive armada was good to go, Reaper tech guns (thanks Turians), etc. and the final battle SHOULD have been an epic space fleet war and not pick button 1 2 or 3. Shepard could have flown an interceptor ship with a Reaper Tech cannon. We could have had some awesome space fighting, even going into a RTS mode to direct fleet combat. When it was over we could have surrounded earth and finished off the reapers still on planet.

The ground assault could have been a great moral choice of
"Bombard the planet from orbit, kill all the reapers"
"But sir, that is earth"
"Yes, and we are fighting for the galaxy... begin firing."

BUT no, we get press button 1 2 or 3.

[I_Jedi]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

So people have found the flashback files for the VS and liara for the romances, but no one else?

Maybe... maybe the space edition isn't the full game..... Maybe retail copies have the full game.

Hold on to any hope you can....

My hope...

[JBurnes3]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

So people have found the flashback files for the VS and liara for the romances, but no one else?

Maybe... maybe the space edition isn't the full game..... Maybe retail copies have the full game.

Retail probably has part of the real game, the rest is probably DLC for buying a lamp or something

[KMYash]

madhatterwriter wrote...

KMYash wrote...

Question to all the people that are pro current endings/anti new endings.

Why are you so against getting ONE more ending to satisfy gamers that aren't happy with what's been leaked? Not taking away any of the current endings, just adding one. Why?

Well from what I read, some believe it will cheapen what they like of the current ending if that makes sense.

For me, I just want some sort of differienation that was said there was going to be because of choices I make or else I would have never played ME1 in the first place. Even if all of the endings are "tragic" but please, goddamn, be different plot wise instead of shades of colors! Seriously? Colors to differ the endings? That's cheap.

For me that argument feels a lot like the Anti Gay Romance arguments. "Oh god my Straight Male Shep doesn't want to get hit on by a guy! Don't put it in at all!"

Personally I agree with the idea that there should be endings that don't feel fulfilling but that they should be in balance with endings that are. Having both, I think, would make people appreciate them both more. You get a bad ending and you want to strive for the good one or you get the good one and then you decide you want to see Shep go down in flames.

[Elegana]

Toaster27 wrote...

Ok wait, I've been gone for a few hours, saw something about Krogan posting strat guide stuff, are we good now?

We have a glimmer of hope. He posted pictures about how the Prejak Paddlefish is important. You need to buy the fish in ME2 on Illium at the store that has the model ships. It's 7500 credits (or 6666 with discount). Make sure you feed if you still have missions to do. Import your ME2 file with that fish, beat the game, do a NG+ with the SAME Shepard (I'm assuming), beat the game a second time, game reloads your last save after the ending, and go talk to Liara for some very special intel.

The photo also said that there is a secret ending, but the photo cuts off the rest. Here's the album:

http://s1256.photobu...8/cleanslate84/

[mass_zotz]

RazorrX wrote...

Firstly, again - the previous games set up that the Protheans could be beaten without the Magic Prothean space gun. They are not gods, and after we had the reaper gun tech from the wreckage of the citadel as well as better armor and shield tech we should be able to defeat them with armies and not space magic press button 1-3 for what color do you want to screw the pooch with.

Second Dragon Age Origins gave 4 endings: Dark Ritual, Alistair dies, You die, Loghain Dies. 4. Note that in 3 of the 4 you live. Not only that but all your party lives (except the one who dies and there was a way out of that). So to compare the 4 options you get in Dragon Age to the 1 option with 3 colors you get in ME3 you are in essence telling me that the ME team is not nearly as talented as the DA team was.

ME 1 and ME 2 stated that it took YEARS for the Reapers to cleanse the galaxy last cycle. Decades. They have to go 1 system at a time. We could very well have won without screwing all technology for centuries. Mass Relays were working - massive armada was good to go, Reaper tech guns (thanks Turians), etc. and the final battle SHOULD have been an epic space fleet war and not pick button 1 2 or 3. Shepard could have flown an interceptor ship with a Reaper Tech cannon. We could have had some awesome space fighting, even going into a RTS mode to direct fleet combat. When it was over we could have surrounded earth and finished off the reapers still on planet.

The ground assault could have been a great moral choice of
"Bombard the planet from orbit, kill all the reapers"
"But sir, that is earth"
"Yes, and we are fighting for the galaxy... begin firing."

BUT no, we get press button 1 2 or 3.

I agree that one epic battle would be more epic.

Modifié par mass_zotz, 03 mars 2012 - 03:36 .

[Prince Keldar]

XX55XX wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

So people have found the flashback files for the VS and liara for the romances, but no one else?

Maybe... maybe the space edition isn't the full game..... Maybe retail copies have the full game.

Doubt it. Why would they make a "special" version of the game? I doubt EA really cares about spoilers. 

To promote the game maybe and get people talking about it???  Besides most games now have release day patches, more than likely ME3 has one too.  Who knows maybe the good ending will unlock/install on release day.

Here's to HOPE!!!

[Kanmuru]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Patriota125 wrote...

Can't believe fangirls still whining about this thing.

"Take DAO for example, you had many choices but in the end its all about you vs the arch-demon that you have to defeat..."

Exactly. But you can't make twilight fangirls understand.

Actually it's you and your team against the Archdemon.

My argument is that those people need to admit that the only problem they have is that they cant be with their virtual Blue Waifu at the end and they decide bash many other aspects of the game that have nothing to do with it.

STOP saying this game gives no choices (it gives several)

STOP saying all the endings are the same (you can destroy all geth + EDI+all reapers, you can control the repears and send to dark space to call them back if AI ever takes control or you can change all systetic and organic life FOREVER)

STOP saying this game has a sad ending ( the galaxy is safe and now they can grow on their own)

STOP saying the tone of the series is grim dark (You can save all of the Normandy crew, you just cant be with                  them but everybody can be alive at the end, including sheppard)


The only real problem you people have with the ending is that the Normandy crew will be away from sheppard, admit it and criticise THAT aspect of the ending.

[Gamingboy]

BTW, we don't know if all of the relays end up destroyed. Remember, part of the backstory is that there are some relays that aren't activated, either because nobody figured out how or because everyone is worried that there's a Rachni-level threat on the other side.

[humes spork]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

The protheans made 1 relay. A prototype. It was also 1-way, and only meant for "small" transportation. 

Well, it managed to pull off something that only other lava and thresher maws could do -- total the Mako. Gotta give it serious props for that.