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#88801
Computim

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darthoptimus003 wrote...

i just finished a second playthru and correct me if im wrong
on thessia when i was chatin with the vi on my 1st time thru the was nothing stating that the reapers are being controled but now there is and thats after the update someone tell me if im wrong cause if im not then we know what is going to happen come summer
SH**STORM


Nah that was there my first playthrough too.  They eluded to it earlier in the game too.  They can't just drop stuff in like that, the voice actor hasn't even been back to voice those parts so they're not gonna sneak in a patch like that.

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I believe not, I remember the Prothean VI saying the Reapers were part of a larger pattern in my first playthrough.
And i hear that again during my second (which i stopped before the ending by the way).

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Hi, guys and girls. Any news?

Holding the line!!!

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darthoptimus003 wrote...

i just finished a second playthru and correct me if im wrong
on thessia when i was chatin with the vi on my 1st time thru the was nothing stating that the reapers are being controled but now there is and thats after the update someone tell me if im wrong cause if im not then we know what is going to happen come summer
SH**STORM

Never mind.Took to long to type and was answered.
Move along nothing to see here.Image IPB

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Computim wrote...

darthoptimus003 wrote...

i just finished a second playthru and correct me if im wrong
on thessia when i was chatin with the vi on my 1st time thru the was nothing stating that the reapers are being controled but now there is and thats after the update someone tell me if im wrong cause if im not then we know what is going to happen come summer
SH**STORM


Nah that was there my first playthrough too.  They eluded to it earlier in the game too.  They can't just drop stuff in like that, the voice actor hasn't even been back to voice those parts so they're not gonna sneak in a patch like that.


Yep. The VI says that it believes the Reapers are slaves of the pattern as well. That was always there.

#88806
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Ihatebadgames wrote...

Spartan-107 wrote...

Looks like there's only one way to get the endings we all want, we need to drop an actual reaper on bioware.

Naw the rEApers have already taken a dump on bioware.We need to send them shovels so they can dig their way back to greatness.


Giving shovels to someone in a hole never ends well.

#88807
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B.Shep wrote...

I believe not, I remember the Prothean VI saying the Reapers were part of a larger pattern in my first playthrough.
And i hear that again during my second (which i stopped before the ending by the way).


All Bioware needed to do was expand on that concept. That would have given a somewhat understandable reason for the Reaper's distruction over the many cycles. Maybe the Reapers are like a lose hive mind, individuals but not one whole. Have the act of Shepard breaking indoctrination weaken them collectively and allow the Sword Fleet to defeat most except for Harbinger.

Then have Harbinger try to appeal to Shepard's nobility by telling him of the greater power they either serve or fight against.

If they serve it, have Harbinger warn him that he has now brought it's attention on their galaxy.

If they fight it, have Harbinger warn him of the concequences of destroying him and the other Reapers.

Either way, boss fight, and then panning the player's perspective out to see this power that was controlling/fighting the Reapers and show it, what ever it is, turning it's attention toward our little galaxy.

Bam... Instant opening for either a fourth game, or an MMO.

You may use this as you wish, Bioware.

#88808
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cool didnt rember hearing it but cool still hate the basterd though that kid has got to go harby was a hellava lot better baddy anyways

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oh yeah did you know that if you hit the laser and you are wearing say blood dragon armor that when you come to its the N& armor that is busted up not the one you were wearing
just sayn

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Mythandariel wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

I believe not, I remember the Prothean VI saying the Reapers were part of a larger pattern in my first playthrough.
And i hear that again during my second (which i stopped before the ending by the way).


All Bioware needed to do was expand on that concept. That would have given a somewhat understandable reason for the Reaper's distruction over the many cycles. Maybe the Reapers are like a lose hive mind, individuals but not one whole. Have the act of Shepard breaking indoctrination weaken them collectively and allow the Sword Fleet to defeat most except for Harbinger.

Then have Harbinger try to appeal to Shepard's nobility by telling him of the greater power they either serve or fight against.

If they serve it, have Harbinger warn him that he has now brought it's attention on their galaxy.

If they fight it, have Harbinger warn him of the concequences of destroying him and the other Reapers.

Either way, boss fight, and then panning the player's perspective out to see this power that was controlling/fighting the Reapers and show it, what ever it is, turning it's attention toward our little galaxy.

Bam... Instant opening for either a fourth game, or an MMO.

You may use this as you wish, Bioware.

which would fit since they are machines that have circular logic so in a way they are slaves to the pattern they themselves created

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darthoptimus003 wrote...

oh yeah did you know that if you hit the laser and you are wearing say blood dragon armor that when you come to its the N& armor that is busted up not the one you were wearing
just sayn


They only had the one molten design, doesn't matter the set you're wearing. It ends up the same. Has to, a molten version of every set of armor would be quite a bit of extra design. The rEApers won't allow delays like that when there's an exploitable fanbase that will overlook it if the game is good.

Modifié par sagevallant, 21 avril 2012 - 02:05 .


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yes you are right
damn rEApers and their time line of genocide of a good franchise
always gets in the way

Modifié par darthoptimus003, 21 avril 2012 - 02:06 .


#88813
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darthoptimus003 wrote...

yes you are right
damn reapers and their time line of genocide
always gets in the way


No no no, not the Reapers, the rEApers. You gotta capitalize the E & the A.

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darthoptimus003 wrote...

yes you are right
damn rEApers and their time line of genocide of a good franchise
always gets in the way

edited iphone sorry

#88815
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darthoptimus003 wrote...

yes you are right
damn rEApers and their time line of genocide of a good franchise
always gets in the way

sorry iphone

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I don't have the time to read all three THOUSAND pages of this thread but as far as the topic goes..... no, no you can't get the ending you want because every single person that has invested enough in Mass Effect that they are this upset about the ending has a different idea about how they want it to end. (I'm sure my ideal ending differs from yours.)

As I said in another thread, how about at the end the screen simply goes black and they open a text file for you to write your own ending. It seems, by the way most people talk, that this solution would be preferred. :pinched:

Here's my biggest problem with what most anti-ending people have to say:

OP:

Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose,
regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets
stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them
again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k
years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To
which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us
control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to
get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present,
and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.


What information states that it is a 'random' world without tech and that Shepard will never see them again.

If you're pulling it out of thin air based simply on the ending, that's insane. To see a few crew members emerge from the Normandy means nothing at all. Who is to say other crew members are not still inside? Who's to say that planet is not Earth? Who's to say that because you don't see another Organic or Synthetic, none exist? They don't pan over the entire planet and show you all surviving lifeforms for a reason. It takes too much space, and completely takes away from the mystery (use your imagination people).

Unless it is written in stone somewhere, your conclusions are based simply on what you think your problems are.

Modifié par Dynelven, 21 avril 2012 - 02:26 .


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Dynelven wrote...

I don't have the time to read all three THOUSAND pages of this thread but as far as the topic goes..... no, no you can't get the ending you want because every single person that has invested enough in Mass Effect that they are this upset about the ending has a different idea about how they want it to end. (I'm sure my ideal ending differs from yours.)

As I said in another thread, how about at the end the screen simply goes black and they open a text file for you to write your own ending. It seems, by the way most people talk, that this solution would be preferred. :pinched:


I want an ending where the decisions I've made up to this point matter. Like I was promised. :whistle:

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Dynelven wrote...

I don't have the time to read all three THOUSAND pages of this thread but as far as the topic goes..... no, no you can't get the ending you want because every single person that has invested enough in Mass Effect that they are this upset about the ending has a different idea about how they want it to end. (I'm sure my ideal ending differs from yours.)

As I said in another thread, how about at the end the screen simply goes black and they open a text file for you to write your own ending. It seems, by the way most people talk, that this solution would be preferred. :pinched:


If that is what you think, then you don't understand at all.

It isn't about our individual ideals. Actually, while our personal ideals are unique, they all converge on one point.

It is about a set of endings that are ideal for the series and do justice to the story that we've invested so much time into and, up until now, was so well written. It always took into account our various choices. Now those mean nothing, and the ending is horribly written.

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Dynelven wrote...

I don't have the time to read all three THOUSAND pages of this thread but as far as the topic goes..... no, no you can't get the ending you want because every single person that has invested enough in Mass Effect that they are this upset about the ending has a different idea about how they want it to end. (I'm sure my ideal ending differs from yours.)

As I said in another thread, how about at the end the screen simply goes black and they open a text file for you to write your own ending. It seems, by the way most people talk, that this solution would be preferred. :pinched:


Most would be happy if they just fixed the plot holes, gave us more closure, showed us some post-reaper rebuilding, show us a house on Rannoch, show us some babies, and show us the smoldering corpse of the Citadel Kid (though that'd just be the cherry on the cake of awesome).

Surprisingly, as diverse as our opinions are on what we'd like, they all have those key points to them lol. :P

Modifié par Computim, 21 avril 2012 - 02:19 .


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sagevallant wrote...

Dynelven wrote...

I don't have the time to read all three THOUSAND pages of this thread but as far as the topic goes..... no, no you can't get the ending you want because every single person that has invested enough in Mass Effect that they are this upset about the ending has a different idea about how they want it to end. (I'm sure my ideal ending differs from yours.)

As I said in another thread, how about at the end the screen simply goes black and they open a text file for you to write your own ending. It seems, by the way most people talk, that this solution would be preferred. :pinched:


I want an ending where the decisions I've made up to this point matter. Like I was promised. :whistle:


Your decisions in past games did. Whether it was as minor as starting with more money or seeing more cameos or as major as some characters not being present at all because you weren't able to save them all. This also counts for the decisions you make in ME3. Choosing to save or kill a character or race has major reprocusions.

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Dynelven wrote...

*snip*

What information states that it is a 'random' world without tech and that Shepard will never see them again.

If you're pulling it out of thin air based simply on the ending, that's insane. To see a few crew members emerge from the Normandy means nothing at all. Who is to say other crew members are not still inside? Who's to say that planet is not Earth? Who's to say that because you don't see another Organic or Synthetic, none exist? They don't pan over the entire planet and show you all surviving lifeforms for a reason. It takes too much space, and completely takes away from the mystery (use your imagination people).

Unless it is written in stone somewhere, your conclusions are based simply on what you think your problems are.


That is exactly our problem witht the ending: we know nothing.

You might be fine with using your imagination, but we aren't. As you said, unless it is written in stone somwhere, it doesn't exist/mean anyting. That is why we want more info; we have absolutely no idea what the heck happened after the colorful explosions. Not even an epilogue. Just a "buy DLC" message. <_<

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KiganMatsuei wrote...

Dynelven wrote...

I don't have the time to read all three THOUSAND pages of this thread but as far as the topic goes..... no, no you can't get the ending you want because every single person that has invested enough in Mass Effect that they are this upset about the ending has a different idea about how they want it to end. (I'm sure my ideal ending differs from yours.)

As I said in another thread, how about at the end the screen simply goes black and they open a text file for you to write your own ending. It seems, by the way most people talk, that this solution would be preferred. :pinched:


If that is what you think, then you don't understand at all.

It isn't about our individual ideals. Actually, while our personal ideals are unique, they all converge on one point.

It is about a set of endings that are ideal for the series and do justice to the story that we've invested so much time into and, up until now, was so well written. It always took into account our various choices. Now those mean nothing, and the ending is horribly written.

/\\  this is what it is ALL been about how ar choice was stripped from us and how our badass shep turned into a little bit** at the end

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KiganMatsuei wrote...
It is about a set of endings that are ideal for the series and do justice to the story that we've invested so much time into and, up until now, was so well written. It always took into account our various choices. Now those mean nothing, and the ending is horribly written.


They may not do it justice in your eyes, but many disagree,

As I said in my previous post above this, your choices DID mean something.

It's incredibly easy to say that the everything up until the ending was well written and now the ending is not. Again, others disagree..... and more importantly, could you do better? Do you not think they did the best they could and thought they would please their fanbase?  It's ridiculous to say any of those things.

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