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Okay... its now 0230. I think I'll be going to bed now, night/morning/ afternoon all~! *waves then tac cloak ninja jumps out of a window and glides away*

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Nharia1 wrote...

Okay... its now 0230. I think I'll be going to bed now, night/morning/ afternoon all~! *waves then tac cloak ninja jumps out of a window and glides away*

Rest well Nharia.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...
*pulls a face at the mention of coffee* Blegh none for me thanks.... :sick:
I'll stick with ice water for right now, since it's 0213.... Which means its time for me to be getting to sleep...:?:whistle:

Finally, someone else who abhors coffee! :o

:blink: I could have sworn that you already knew about that... Like everytime Toffee and Chmarr are on, one of them happens to mention coffee and I'm always like "gimme root beer" :lol:


here you go Image IPB

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Morning Toffeeetrooper and to the rest of you.


morning jet

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Good Morning guys hope you had a nice saturday.

Amusing Facebook ad even if it isn't aimed at Mass Effect.

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Hey all, I am back and I don't have to go anywhere for the rest of the night YAY! lol.

How is everything, anything much happen in the last 8 hours?

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xHezz90 wrote...

Hey all, I am back and I don't have to go anywhere for the rest of the night YAY! lol.

How is everything, anything much happen in the last 8 hours?


hey hezz, just got on myself

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toffeetrooper wrote...

hey hezz, just got on myself


Well Hey, and welcome back hehe :D

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xHezz90 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

hey hezz, just got on myself


Well Hey, and welcome back hehe :D

Hey Hezz *hugs*

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xHezz90 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

hey hezz, just got on myself


Well Hey, and welcome back hehe :D


thank you i'm  just lurking as usual, not much going on it seems.
wish bioware would give us something solid.
they say patience is a virtue, i will have to work on it.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Hey Hezz *hugs*


*hugs* Hey you.

Hope you're well?

toffeetrooper wrote...

thank you i'm  just lurking as usual, not much going on it seems. 
wish bioware would give us something solid.
they say patience is a virtue, i will have to work on it.


Haha yeah I am semi-turning into a lurker as well, just too much goin on these days in RL I come on quick look and hey and then leave lol.

I openly admit that I am a very impatient person so it's hard for me to try and be patient, I think personally I am doling a pretty good job.

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xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Hey Hezz *hugs*


*hugs* Hey you.

Hope you're well?

*snip*Haha yeah I am semi-turning into a lurker as well, just too much goin on these days in RL I come on quick look and hey and then leave lol.

I openly admit that I am a very impatient person so it's hard for me to try and be patient, I think personally I am doling a pretty good job.

I'm good thanks. It is hard having to wait to hear something. It would be nice to have at least a snippet of more concrete information but I think we're all being amazingly patient all things considered!

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xHezz90 wrote...

Haha yeah I am semi-turning into a lurker as well, just too much goin on these days in RL I come on quick look and hey and then leave lol.

I openly admit that I am a very impatient person so it's hard for me to try and be patient, I think personally I am doling a pretty good job.



i think everyone here is doing well ( Mr Connery has ice in his viens he was born cool and patient).

edit: spelling

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Back in the fray, and with a tummy-ache. :( Anyway, minor ramble incoming (aka. ending thoughts - burnt ochre edition)!

Some of you are probably more familiar with the show Taggart than I am, so forgive any liberties taken in this description. For those who don't know it, it's a Scottish detective show. The older episodes rival Bollywood movies in length -- three hours, give or take for ad breaks. You can imagine what kind of a story they can build in three hours: there are always a hundred things going on, a whole bunch of characters and lots of mystery and convoluted story threads.

And the thing is, I find the endings of these episodes are done really badly. Everything gains momentum in the last fifteen, twenty minutes. The final pieces of the puzzle fall into place and you realise (mostly) why everyone did what they did. The killer goes for his last victim. The police run up just as the would-be victim pushes him away and he stumbles into a ditch, dropping his weapon, a look of horror on his face. BAM. Credits.

The abrupt halt of that momentum throws me off every time. Given how long the episode is already, you'd think they would dedicate more time to the ending. You don't really get post-case-closing congratulatory scenes or visualisation of the police enjoying the pay-off of their work, although that's straightforward enough to mentally extrapolate. What you do get, however, is a story that comes full circle and generally makes sense. May be a crazy-ass story, but still a coherent one. There tend to be a lot of random scenes during the three hours, but in retrospect the vast majority will make sense. There may be room for questions ("why wait until the victim was at work to kill him?") but the biggest questions, the ones that carry the story, are answered.

You know what? That's more than we get from the ending of ME3. And it still makes me throw my hands up in the air.

I didn't sink 150 hours into the story and setting of this episode of Taggart. I didn't have any say in how the story played out. I didn't even pay to experience the story. These things, I did for ME3. That's what makes it a kick in the ovaries.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

I'm good thanks. It is hard having to wait to hear something. It would be nice to have at least a snippet of more concrete information but I think we're all being amazingly patient all things considered!


Glad to hear that ^_^

I agree it is hard to wait. But you're right we are all doing an amazing job of being patient...maybe The Witcher 2 is helping a lot of us? lol though I haven't managed to play it in two days.

toffeetrooper wrote...

i think everyone here is doing well ( Mr Connery has ice in his viens he was born cool and patience).


Yeah he is so cool and calm B)

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xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

I'm good thanks. It is hard having to wait to hear something. It would be nice to have at least a snippet of more concrete information but I think we're all being amazingly patient all things considered!


Glad to hear that ^_^

I agree it is hard to wait. But you're right we are all doing an amazing job of being patient...maybe The Witcher 2 is helping a lot of us? lol though I haven't managed to play it in two days.

I did get it but I haven't played it yet, just can't bring myself to switch the Xbox on at the moment.

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toffeetrooper wrote...


i think everyone here is doing well ( Mr Connery has Martini(shaken not stired) in his viens he was born cool and patient).

Though I do prefer a good quality single malt.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

I did get it but I haven't played it yet, just can't bring myself to switch the Xbox on at the moment.


Ah well you can play it anytime :D
I've happily got over my game depression. I have been playing games like I always do, except I haven't touched a BioWare game.....which is a tad unusual for me. I am normally playing either Dragon Age or Mass Effect along with my current obsession game.

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DJBare wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...


i think everyone here is doing well ( Mr Connery has Martini(shaken not stired) in his viens he was born cool and patient).

Though I do prefer a good quality single malt.


lol, nice edit  +1 single malt for you sir

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xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

I did get it but I haven't played it yet, just can't bring myself to switch the Xbox on at the moment.


Ah well you can play it anytime :D
I've happily got over my game depression. I have been playing games like I always do, except I haven't touched a BioWare game.....which is a tad unusual for me. I am normally playing either Dragon Age or Mass Effect along with my current obsession game.

Well I've been playing on the PS3 but I tend to go in waves playing games. I'm sure in the next week or so I'll get back into it.

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toffeetrooper wrote...

lol, nice edit  +1 single malt for you sir

Thank you sir, now I'll let you in on a little secret, you know who the strongest character in Star Trek TNG was in my opinion?, Commander Data, he appears cold and analytical yet hints at caring about his crew mates, the same can be said of Spock, I'd rather keep my emotions intact, but there is something compelling about rising above those emotions.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Well I've been playing on the PS3 but I tend to go in waves playing games. I'm sure in the next week or so I'll get back into it.


I mainly play on my PS3 lol. I must admit I do tend to go in waves aswell it's like

Wave 1: Constant game playing
Wave 2: Constant reading
Wave 3: Constant DVD watching

LOL

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xHezz90 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Well I've been playing on the PS3 but I tend to go in waves playing games. I'm sure in the next week or so I'll get back into it.


I mainly play on my PS3 lol. I must admit I do tend to go in waves aswell it's like

Wave 1: Constant game playing
Wave 2: Constant reading
Wave 3: Constant DVD watching

LOL

That sounds about right. Just before ME3 came out I finished watching GiTS 1st & 2nd gig from start to finish Image IPB

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Phoenix NL wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

I mainly play on my PS3 lol. I must admit I do tend to go in waves aswell it's like

Wave 1: Constant game playing
Wave 2: Constant reading
Wave 3: Constant DVD watching

LOL

That sounds about right. Just before ME3 came out I finished watching GiTS 1st & 2nd gig from start to finish Image IPB

I tend to do everything at the same time. I watch tv series while lurking here and doing schoolwork, and sometimes there is even a windowed game going on. I have multiple games and books and series going on at the same time too. I just can't seem to focus solely on one thing at a time :?