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[crimzontearz]

I miss the days in which all I could legitimately complain about was the stupid thermal clips.......



I really really do....

[Aesieru]

kingsims wrote...

The destroy ending is really bad the Geth and EDI die. That can't be the paragon ending not after making peace with the Geth and Qaurians (This is definitely paragon). I guess if you justify it by killing all sythentics but the glaxy still ends up in a poor state and the Geth won't be able to help rebuild it (They are the most likely race to survive after this because they don't need food or water only minerals to build new geth).

I am going for the control ending. Merge just seems like you force everybody into a reaper and thats why reapers stop attacking because you are them.

Control is the worst ending as it promotes the Technology Singularity and most likely would result in that which the Reapers were trying to prevent which would result in massive AI expansion and the entire galaxy being depleted of resources / devoured.

Synergize is more the attempt to not make any more AI's.

and Destroy is the best ending because it kills your enemies, the relays (your prison), and anything that could result in the singularity of technology occurring, but also almost always results in Shephard dying and of course everything blowing up save for a few endings.

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If you look at the endings in terms of them being Paragon / Renegade or Good / Evil or Optimal / Not Optimal based on who lives and who dies, then you're not seeing the bigger picture and you're very selfish and not a very good savior of the galaxy.

[Kyria Nyriese]

crimzontearz wrote...

I miss the days in which all I could legitimately complain about was the stupid thermal clips.......



I really really do....

I miss the days when all I did was lurk /sigh

I also partially wish I could go back in time three days and not read the endings.  Though if I did, and ran into them when I played the game, I doubt my computer would fair well.

[RazorrX]

Future ME games will be prequels. They would have to make one ending official, and they 'claim' they will not do that for it to go forward.

[Aesieru]

curelightwounds wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

You see a wasteland, and I see possibilities.

How many years will it take for Galactic Civilization to reach the level it was before the Reapers?

I see the advancement in technology to do so, the search for new resources, attempts at harnessin or recreatin the Reapers. Species survivin, workin together, and/or tryin to establish dominance. The Galaxy is waitin to be rediscovered.

I would be tempted to be with you and swallow these endings IF there was some kind of official announcement of another Mass Effect game, some hint that I could ctrl+z and try to make things work out better.

As it stands there is no such thing and no such hope. This is, for all intents, the end of the story.

It feels like I'm being asked to choose a life in 1984, Animal Farm, and Burmese Days. Why would I even bother?

If you would try to understand the plot rather than your major love for the characters, you would then realize that the ending is very good.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

crimzontearz wrote...

I miss the days in which all I could legitimately complain about was the stupid thermal clips.......



I really really do....

 We have fallen on dark days.

[crimzontearz]

the only ending in which Shepard can survive is the destroy ending Aesieru

[curelightwounds]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

I miss the days when all I did was lurk /sigh

I also partially wish I could go back in time three days and not read the endings.  Though if I did, and ran into them when I played the game, I doubt my computer would fair well.

Panic now or panic later...

I probably would have gone on-line to see how to get better endings... then I'd be mad in three weeks from now instead of right now.

[AgitatedLemon]

crimzontearz wrote...

the only ending in which Shepard can survive is the destroy ending Aesieru

Does Shepard technically "die" in the Control ending? 

I thought he just fused with the core of the Citadel. Not really alive or dead. Just kinda... there.

[Kanmuru]

curelightwounds wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

You see a wasteland, and I see possibilities.

How many years will it take for Galactic Civilization to reach the level it was before the Reapers?

I see the advancement in technology to do so, the search for new resources, attempts at harnessin or recreatin the Reapers. Species survivin, workin together, and/or tryin to establish dominance. The Galaxy is waitin to be rediscovered.

I would be tempted to be with you and swallow these endings IF there was some kind of official announcement of another Mass Effect game, some hint that I could ctrl+z and try to make things work out better.

As it stands there is no such thing and no such hope. This is, for all intents, the end of the story.

It feels like I'm being asked to choose a life in 1984, Animal Farm, and Burmese Days. Why would I even bother?

lol So dramatic, ill just repeat what Hiddenking wrote:  'You see a wasteland, and I see possibilities."

All you care about is how bad things are for the galaxy but we chose to see how many amazing things happened, i guess its just a matter of worldview  (and because we dont care about our virtual waifus)

[Kyria Nyriese]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

the only ending in which Shepard can survive is the destroy ending Aesieru

Does Shepard technically "die" in the Control ending? 

I thought he just fused with the core of the Citadel. Not really alive or dead. Just kinda... there.

From what I understand of the Control ending, Shepard becomes the new Guardian in the Citadel.  She would not be able to do anything at all except monitor everything in the galaxy.  So might as well be dead.  I also believe her body does die and it's only her consiousness that is left in the Citadel.

Modifié par Kyria Nyriese, 03 mars 2012 - 04:43 .

[Kanmuru]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

the only ending in which Shepard can survive is the destroy ending Aesieru

Does Shepard technically "die" in the Control ending? 

I thought he just fused with the core of the Citadel. Not really alive or dead. Just kinda... there.

He dosent die, he becomes the new signal for the reapers, if AI ever gets out of control, he will call them back to do the reaping But if the AI treath is in control, they wont come back

[curelightwounds]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

the only ending in which Shepard can survive is the destroy ending Aesieru

Does Shepard technically "die" in the Control ending? 

I thought he just fused with the core of the Citadel. Not really alive or dead. Just kinda... there.

Oh damn, like in the Iron Man song... that would be... pretty cool kinda... 

[kingsims]

So the story is just don't trust AI's even though legion has already said the Geth don't want to be reapers and have no intention of destroying organic life and want to live in peace.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I honestly don't get all of the angst and whining over the endings.

I made this post near the start of the thread and it's still just as valid now.

Did you really expect that Shepard and crew would be able to fight off the Reapers without consequences for themselves? As if it would resolve in a neat little package at the end like a fairy tale, or where the entire crew holds hands and sings "kumbaya"?

At the end of the day, BioWare best know how to blow us away and emotionally engage us with their rock solid, masterfully written, majestic stories. I'm sure while everyone likes to complain, do you really want a Mass Effect 3 to have a bland, lifeless ending?

Where's the drama in that?

Personally, I think it's a great ending, a completely logical conclusion based on the plot progression (that we've seen so far) and it doesn't feel artificial or forced at all. Most of you are just angry because you won't be able to live happily evar after with your LIs.

Well guess what, Mass Effect is not about a choose-your-own-romance-adventure sexual wish fulfillment mini-game, with appalling elements like shallow fanservice and over sexualization. It's a gritty, mature, adult story which will surely advance the medium in ways we can't even imagine.

And even if you still have unwarranted and entitled gripes over the endings, Mass Effect is a ROLEPLAYING GAME!

Just roleplay that everyone was able to survive and live happily ever after or something. Or that the colony thrives and everyone gets along without any hardship. Or that some other technology is invented which allows them to leave.

You people are too used to games like CoD and other junk that the mainstream industry puts out. Use your imaginations!

After all, isn't that the point of Mass Effect?

BioWare knows this, and they crafted an entire arc spanning three epic games around that concept. If you're too unimaginative to realise that, and ungrateful enough to spit in their faces just because you won't have a white wedding with waifus in glorious HD, then really.... you're just too used to games like Gears of War, which Mass Effect is nothing like (despite what the trolls say).

Modifié par CrustyBot, 03 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[albertalad]

Aesieru wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

You see a wasteland, and I see possibilities.

How many years will it take for Galactic Civilization to reach the level it was before the Reapers?

I see the advancement in technology to do so, the search for new resources, attempts at harnessin or recreatin the Reapers. Species survivin, workin together, and/or tryin to establish dominance. The Galaxy is waitin to be rediscovered.

I would be tempted to be with you and swallow these endings IF there was some kind of official announcement of another Mass Effect game, some hint that I could ctrl+z and try to make things work out better.

As it stands there is no such thing and no such hope. This is, for all intents, the end of the story.

It feels like I'm being asked to choose a life in 1984, Animal Farm, and Burmese Days. Why would I even bother?

If you would try to understand the plot rather than your major love for the characters, you would then realize that the ending is very good.

You can put as much lipstick on that pig as you want - its's still a damn pig!

[AgitatedLemon]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

the only ending in which Shepard can survive is the destroy ending Aesieru

Does Shepard technically "die" in the Control ending? 

I thought he just fused with the core of the Citadel. Not really alive or dead. Just kinda... there.

From what I understand of the Control ending, Shepard becomes the new Guardian in the Citadel.  She would not be able to do anything at all except monitor everything in the galaxy.  So might as well be dead.  I also believe her body does die and it's only her consiousness that is left in the Citadel.

Yeah.

May as well be dead.

[HiddenKING]

curelightwounds wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

You see a wasteland, and I see possibilities.

How many years will it take for Galactic Civilization to reach the level it was before the Reapers?

I see the advancement in technology to do so, the search for new resources, attempts at harnessin or recreatin the Reapers. Species survivin, workin together, and/or tryin to establish dominance. The Galaxy is waitin to be rediscovered.

I would be tempted to be with you and swallow these endings IF there was some kind of official announcement of another Mass Effect game, some hint that I could ctrl+z and try to make things work out better.

As it stands there is no such thing and no such hope. This is, for all intents, the end of the story.

It feels like I'm being asked to choose a life in 1984, Animal Farm, and Burmese Days. Why would I even bother?

I wouldn't want them to pull a Capcom, milk the franchise, and annouce a new game that will be release in 9 months when they have one releasin in 2 *cough* Resident Evil 6, Mega Man X6 *cough* I hate Capcom.

I love the Mass Effect Universe and personally I think it has a lot of potential to grow. I don't think Bioware is ready to end the Universe with Mass Effect 3, but I don't think now is a good time to open a new chapter either. Regardless, I've really enjoyed the games, and I like the endings and I look forward to more Mass Effect in the Future.

[jellobell]

Kanmuru wrote...
(and because we dont care about our virtual waifus)

I see this a lot and I don't get it. Yes, people are attached to the Normandy crew, by this point in the story you should be, what is the problem with being upset over their fate when it makes no sense and can't be changed?

[Kanmuru]

albertalad wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

You see a wasteland, and I see possibilities.

How many years will it take for Galactic Civilization to reach the level it was before the Reapers?

I see the advancement in technology to do so, the search for new resources, attempts at harnessin or recreatin the Reapers. Species survivin, workin together, and/or tryin to establish dominance. The Galaxy is waitin to be rediscovered.

I would be tempted to be with you and swallow these endings IF there was some kind of official announcement of another Mass Effect game, some hint that I could ctrl+z and try to make things work out better.

As it stands there is no such thing and no such hope. This is, for all intents, the end of the story.

It feels like I'm being asked to choose a life in 1984, Animal Farm, and Burmese Days. Why would I even bother?

If you would try to understand the plot rather than your major love for the characters, you would then realize that the ending is very good.

You can put as much lipstick on that pig as you want - its's still a damn pig!

Not its youll just miss your blue waifu!!!

[Tom Lehrer]

But a mighty fine pig.

Modifié par Tom Lehrer, 03 mars 2012 - 04:45 .

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

Aesieru wrote...

kingsims wrote...

The destroy ending is really bad the Geth and EDI die. That can't be the paragon ending not after making peace with the Geth and Qaurians (This is definitely paragon). I guess if you justify it by killing all sythentics but the glaxy still ends up in a poor state and the Geth won't be able to help rebuild it (They are the most likely race to survive after this because they don't need food or water only minerals to build new geth).

I am going for the control ending. Merge just seems like you force everybody into a reaper and thats why reapers stop attacking because you are them.

Control is the worst ending as it promotes the Technology Singularity and most likely would result in that which the Reapers were trying to prevent which would result in massive AI expansion and the entire galaxy being depleted of resources / devoured.

Synergize is more the attempt to not make any more AI's.

and Destroy is the best ending because it kills your enemies, the relays (your prison), and anything that could result in the singularity of technology occurring, but also almost always results in Shephard dying and of course everything blowing up save for a few endings.

---

If you look at the endings in terms of them being Paragon / Renegade or Good / Evil or Optimal / Not Optimal based on who lives and who dies, then you're not seeing the bigger picture and you're very selfish and not a very good savior of the galaxy.

And part of that makes sense because I believe Tank said Control is the easiest ending to get but if Destroy is the best ending, why is Synergy supposed to be the hardest ending to get or does it go like this?

Control - 2 endings
Destroy - 3 endings were Shep dies
Synergy
Destroy - shep lives

[Tric]

Aesieru wrote...
If you would try to understand the plot rather than your major love for the characters, you would then realize that the ending is very good.

Even what happens to the Normandy?

Sincerally that's what really bothers me, it actually makes my stomach curl.

Modifié par SomethingSome, 03 mars 2012 - 04:46 .

[curelightwounds]

albertalad wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

You see a wasteland, and I see possibilities.

How many years will it take for Galactic Civilization to reach the level it was before the Reapers?

I see the advancement in technology to do so, the search for new resources, attempts at harnessin or recreatin the Reapers. Species survivin, workin together, and/or tryin to establish dominance. The Galaxy is waitin to be rediscovered.

I would be tempted to be with you and swallow these endings IF there was some kind of official announcement of another Mass Effect game, some hint that I could ctrl+z and try to make things work out better.

As it stands there is no such thing and no such hope. This is, for all intents, the end of the story.

It feels like I'm being asked to choose a life in 1984, Animal Farm, and Burmese Days. Why would I even bother?

If you would try to understand the plot rather than your major love for the characters, you would then realize that the ending is very good.

You can put as much lipstick on that pig as you want - its's still a damn pig!

Hell you could even teach it how to walk if you wanted. 

[Armass81]

HiddenKING wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Perfect, so you agree with me that the galaxy isn't ****ed forever. There will be growth, it will be hard but now the galatic comunnity can grow on its own achievments, they might make new relays or discover new methods of fast travel. How is that a bad ending? Imo its a really good one, i prefer independence and self determination over being slaves of alien technology (just like Liara's father, the wisest asari ever)

Independent advancement is going to be PRETTY hard without the ability to quickly travel to other star systems.

"Slave to alien technology"? What? Do you know how common it is today for someone to use a product or appliance made from a foreign country? Just because you're using something made from someone else doesn't mean you can't think for yourself, it just means that someone else beat you to it. Only an idiot would try to beat themselves up by ignoring beneficial technologies developed by another race/species.

Except that none of these foreign technologies are actually death traps set by ancient evil machines lol

This entire bull**** (ME series lol) started BECAUSE of the mass relays, if we didnt found any of them we would all be fine and happy on our own. It was the fact that we got dependand on alien tech instead of finding our ways ( something that Liara's dad realised) that made us vulnerable to the reapers...

And this is why the relays NEED to go, otherwise we wont ever learn anything

OMG, what is wrong with you. We get that you don't want the relays and THAT is perfectly fine, but WHY does this have to be the ending for everyone.

It's not just an ending, it's a new beginning to the Mass Effect Universe. It allows it to grow in a new way, Shepard broke the chain of destruction. Yes the relays are gone, and it allows the Universe to grow in new ways. New Technology, new challenges, new stories, and new characters. There's tons of possibilities now, and it's not bound to follow Shepard and the 2 dozen or so people from the games. It's a bitter ending, but it's a awesome new beginning.

This guy gets it.