So we can't get the ending we want after all?
#90501
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:18
#90502
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:21
#90503
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:23
Well he did start that discussion with 'I created the Reapers, they are my solution' so I think it's a fair given that he's a Reaper.Major Swift wrote...
Why would starchild say "or do you think you can control us" and "I know you've thought about destroying us" doesn't that make him like a reaper projection or something if he puts himself in that particular group by saying "us" *thinks he's just dissecting every little detail now and that this doesn't mean anything lol*
#90504
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:30
Kyria Nyriese wrote...
Well he did start that discussion with 'I created the Reapers, they are my solution' so I think it's a fair given that he's a Reaper.Major Swift wrote...
Why would starchild say "or do you think you can control us" and "I know you've thought about destroying us" doesn't that make him like a reaper projection or something if he puts himself in that particular group by saying "us" *thinks he's just dissecting every little detail now and that this doesn't mean anything lol*
Of course starchild would say that; he is a Reaper. Or the creater of it. Whatever he is, one thing is certain: he is not on Shepard's side. And he is very biased.
He's like a little devil: gives you options but tries to make you pick any option that will keep the Reapers alive. Last thing he wants is for you to pick destroy. Oh, how I hate him...<_<
#90505
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:30
Major Swift wrote...
Why would starchild say "or do you think you can control us" and "I know you've thought about destroying us" doesn't that make him like a reaper projection or something if he puts himself in that particular group by saying "us" *thinks he's just dissecting every little detail now and that this doesn't mean anything lol*
Oh i thought, the first and only time i heard it, that he meant the "Organics vs Synthetic" thing. Like organics think they can control their creations, and thinking about destroying them...
Mhm, the impossibility of the organics to control their creations is kinda ironic considering starbrat created the Reapers... A creation within a creation??
#90506
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:35
''The created will inevitably rebel against the creator.'' Is Starbrats exact words if I remember right...CaptnObvious wrote...
Major Swift wrote...
Why would starchild say "or do you think you can control us" and "I know you've thought about destroying us" doesn't that make him like a reaper projection or something if he puts himself in that particular group by saying "us" *thinks he's just dissecting every little detail now and that this doesn't mean anything lol*
Oh i thought, the first and only time i heard it, that he meant the "Organics vs Synthetic" thing. Like organics think they can control their creations, and thinking about destroying them...
Mhm, the impossibility of the organics to control their creations is kinda ironic considering starbrat created the Reapers... A creation within a creation??
#90507
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:36
CaptnObvious wrote...
Major Swift wrote...
Why would starchild say "or do you think you can control us" and "I know you've thought about destroying us" doesn't that make him like a reaper projection or something if he puts himself in that particular group by saying "us" *thinks he's just dissecting every little detail now and that this doesn't mean anything lol*
Oh i thought, the first and only time i heard it, that he meant the "Organics vs Synthetic" thing. Like organics think they can control their creations, and thinking about destroying them...
Mhm, the impossibility of the organics to control their creations is kinda ironic considering starbrat created the Reapers... A creation within a creation??
You mean, Organics creating a synthetic that creates synthetics because organics create synthetics that eventually kill the organics, so the synthetic's synthetics kill organics so they can't create synthetics that will kill the organics?
Modifié par Laterali, 24 avril 2012 - 10:39 .
#90508
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:37
Personally, I don't think it would add much to it in the sense of making it better. It would explain things, true, but it wouldn't make it good.
But I wonder if they are not just redoing this original idea for the "explanation dlc". Man, that would be just too bad.
#90509
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:38
Darth Suetam wrote...
Reviewing the BW authorized "The Final Hours", the lead writer talks about how the ending was cut short. They intended to let "Space-Bieber" tell a lot more about... well... everything. So, Shep would ask Space-Brat a ton of questions, and it would explain a lot of things left opened.
Personally, I don't think it would add much to it in the sense of making it better. It would explain things, true, but it wouldn't make it good.
But I wonder if they are not just redoing this original idea for the "explanation dlc". Man, that would be just too bad.
Space-Bieber!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
That is my fear right there. I feel like they will just add more explanations and end of story. I want a reunion scene...
#90510
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:40
Basically, if you add crap to explain crap, it is still a huge stinking pile of crap, that only got bigger.Darth Suetam wrote...
Reviewing the BW authorized "The Final Hours", the lead writer talks about how the ending was cut short. They intended to let "Space-Bieber" tell a lot more about... well... everything. So, Shep would ask Space-Brat a ton of questions, and it would explain a lot of things left opened.
Personally, I don't think it would add much to it in the sense of making it better. It would explain things, true, but it wouldn't make it good.
But I wonder if they are not just redoing this original idea for the "explanation dlc". Man, that would be just too bad.
#90511
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:40
Laterali wrote...
You mean, Organics creating a synthetic that creates synthetics because organics create synthetics that eventually kill the synthetics, so the synthetic's synthetics kill organics so they can't create synthetics that will kill the organics?
No no. Syhthetics kill organics, so synthetics don't kill synthetics that would kill organics, who would kill synthetics that kill synthetics that kill organics. So synthetics control synthetics to kill organis who kill synthetics to prevent synthetics to kill synthetics who kill organics.
All that with just 3 colors!!!
#90512
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:40
Tyion133 wrote...
''The created will inevitably rebel against the creator.'' Is Starbrats exact words if I remember right...CaptnObvious wrote...
Oh i thought, the first and only time i heard it, that he meant the "Organics vs Synthetic" thing. Like organics think they can control their creations, and thinking about destroying them...
Mhm, the impossibility of the organics to control their creations is kinda ironic considering starbrat created the Reapers... A creation within a creation??
I think that's exactly the quote lol... good memory
Hmmm... I don't know for anyone else, but i'd pay to see Harby and the Reapers ally with Shep to kick Deus Ex Liberi in the nads:O
Or maybe i'll write a totally rad fanfic.
@Laterali : Well, if you put it that way... my brain just bleeds. But it is quite a tongue twister
#90513
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:41
Well, I got as far as Joker praising the leather and complaining about the new AI, that was it, no enthusiasm to continue, Bioware certainly did find the off button, but it hit the wrong target!
#90514
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:44
Darth Suetam wrote...
Laterali wrote...
You mean, Organics creating a synthetic that creates synthetics because organics create synthetics that eventually kill the synthetics, so the synthetic's synthetics kill organics so they can't create synthetics that will kill the organics?
No no. Syhthetics kill organics, so synthetics don't kill synthetics that would kill organics, who would kill synthetics that kill synthetics that kill organics. So synthetics control synthetics to kill organis who kill synthetics to prevent synthetics to kill synthetics who kill organics.
All that with just 3 colors!!!
Plus you have synthetics who create synthetics that in turn trick other synthetics that were created by organics to kill organics, then the synthetics join with organics to kill synthetics, which in turn makes synthetics kill other synthetics and organics, and then the synthetic that created synthetics lets organics kill synthetics or control synthetics, even though that synthetic just said you can't control synthetics cause they'll eventually kill organics.
#90515
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:45
Soooo was this bat **** crazy in fannish "must buy" mode, or Bat **** crazy in the "Pitchforks and Torches" mode?
I'm guessing its the latter but I'm not really specific on the why(s) and the how(s)
#90516
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:46
This week's greatest PR spin, unlike last week's enraging attempt is actually quite good!
EA's now taking the fact that 6 week old ME3 has dropped in price to less than Skyrim, the 6 month old game, by $10 to $29.99 on Amazon and trying to make it out like it's a big sale (Yay everyone loves sales!)
The good part of this ... which is actually a realy good price for anyone who's looking to get it for family..etc
Mass Effect 2's Facebook Page: Get Mass Effect 3 on Xbox 360 for only $29.99 on Amazon! Get your copy today! http://amzn.to/JmdZIN
\\o/ Hooray! Thank you Electronic Arts! *falls over laughing unable to hold it in anymore*
#90517
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:47
Laterali wrote...
Goodwood wrote...
Hello there everyone. Just got back after a nice long sleep...
For those who haven't seen this: linky
That really makes me do this
From what I can tell, from cut dialogue, little bits and pieces of what I heard about the leaked ending pre-release, the ending was going to be massively awesome. What happened?!?!
presumably they ran out of time and ruthlessly cut the "priority:earth" mission down to what we finally got
I don't really want to think about this all being preplaned to be part of a payed "new ending"-dlc with a revamped final-mission
#90518
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:49
TamiBx wrote...
Space-Bieber!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
That is my fear right there. I feel like they will just add more explanations and end of story. I want a reunion scene...
Yep. But I fear that Q&A may be all we get. Maybe some scenes, but I don't think they will get all the actors to come back and act on many more scenes and dialogues. They may wrap it up just with Shep, Space-Bieber and some scenes with just music.
Why on earth would they be willing to bring everyone back, do a bunch of scenes, but not do a proper new ending? Just to be the captain that drowns with his ship? Pride? It "goeth before the fall", remember ancient words of wisdom.
#90519
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:50
Computim wrote...
Welcome to EA's Spin of the Week.
This week's greatest PR spin, unlike last week's enraging attempt is actually quite good!
EA's now taking the fact that 6 week old ME3 has dropped in price to less than Skyrim, the 6 month old game, by $10 to $29.99 on Amazon and trying to make it out like it's a big sale (Yay everyone loves sales!)
The good part of this ... which is actually a realy good price for anyone who's looking to get it for family..etc
Mass Effect 2's Facebook Page: Get Mass Effect 3 on Xbox 360 for only $29.99 on Amazon! Get your copy today! http://amzn.to/JmdZIN
o/ Hooray! Thank you Electronic Arts! *falls over laughing unable to hold it in anymore*
Don't forget free shipping!
edit: honestly, right now, I don't think I would want it even if it were free...
Modifié par TamiBx, 24 avril 2012 - 10:51 .
#90520
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:52
Laterali wrote...
Darth Suetam wrote...
Laterali wrote...
You mean, Organics creating a synthetic that creates synthetics because organics create synthetics that eventually kill the synthetics, so the synthetic's synthetics kill organics so they can't create synthetics that will kill the organics?
No no. Syhthetics kill organics, so synthetics don't kill synthetics that would kill organics, who would kill synthetics that kill synthetics that kill organics. So synthetics control synthetics to kill organis who kill synthetics to prevent synthetics to kill synthetics who kill organics.
All that with just 3 colors!!!
Plus you have synthetics who create synthetics that in turn trick other synthetics that were created by organics to kill organics, then the synthetics join with organics to kill synthetics, which in turn makes synthetics kill other synthetics and organics, and then the synthetic that created synthetics lets organics kill synthetics or control synthetics, even though that synthetic just said you can't control synthetics cause they'll eventually kill organics.
Sir, your knowledge of synthetics is unsurpassed.
#90521
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:53
TamiBx wrote...
Computim wrote...
Welcome to EA's Spin of the Week.
This week's greatest PR spin, unlike last week's enraging attempt is actually quite good!
EA's now taking the fact that 6 week old ME3 has dropped in price to less than Skyrim, the 6 month old game, by $10 to $29.99 on Amazon and trying to make it out like it's a big sale (Yay everyone loves sales!)
The good part of this ... which is actually a realy good price for anyone who's looking to get it for family..etc
Mass Effect 2's Facebook Page: Get Mass Effect 3 on Xbox 360 for only $29.99 on Amazon! Get your copy today! http://amzn.to/JmdZIN
o/ Hooray! Thank you Electronic Arts! *falls over laughing unable to hold it in anymore*
Don't forget free shipping!
edit: honestly, right now, I don't think I would want it even if it were free...
Nah see, I'm optimistic enough that the Extended Cut is going to make the ending acceptable, and that will push the game back up into "HOLY FREAKEN COW THIS GAME IS AMAZING" territory... could have been "BEST GAME EVAR" but then it took an ending to the knee...
Get it while it's cheap, won't hate yourself in a couple months when the Extended cut comes out and the price probably goes back up $10 or so.
#90522
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:54
cyborgchris wrote...
presumably they ran out of time and ruthlessly cut the "priority:earth" mission down to what we finally got
I don't really want to think about this all being preplaned to be part of a payed "new ending"-dlc with a revamped final-mission
There's a strong possibility it might have been from what I've seen. Capcom with Azura's wrath and that Final Fantasy game (Can't recall since there's so many of the pieces of crap) set the precedent of cutting off endings to have people pay for it later
EA probably thought "Oh look. A new way to milk our gamers for every penny they got"
Problem was they completely misjudged their audience. Capcom mainly attracts kids and teenagers along with FF. Which means that When they need to pay for DLC they go to parents who will give the money to them.
When its older working people that actually have to give out money that they EARN. Its a completely different ballgame.
I'm sure they've learned their lesson from this little stunt at the very least
#90523
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:56
Computim wrote...
Nah see, I'm optimistic enough that the Extended Cut is going to make the ending acceptable, and that will push the game back up into "HOLY FREAKEN COW THIS GAME IS AMAZING" territory... could have been "BEST GAME EVAR" but then it took an ending to the knee...
Get it while it's cheap, won't hate yourself in a couple months when the Extended cut comes out and the price probably goes back up $10 or so.
I already have it though lol
And Tim, sometimes I think you secretly work for EA or Bioware...
Modifié par TamiBx, 24 avril 2012 - 11:03 .
#90524
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:59
ld1449 wrote...
I'm sure they've learned their lesson from this little stunt at the very least
Doubt it. I can't see EA ever pushing a release day back on a AAA game if they think they can make money on it anyways. And companies like EA have extremely short memories, this'll happen again, and they'll say ,"We had no idea our fans would react this way." again.
#90525
Posté 24 avril 2012 - 10:59
TamiBx wrote...
I already have it though lolComputim wrote...
Nah see, I'm optimistic enough that the Extended Cut is going to make the ending acceptable, and that will push the game back up into "HOLY FREAKEN COW THIS GAME IS AMAZING" territory... could have been "BEST GAME EVAR" but then it took an ending to the knee...
Get it while it's cheap, won't hate yourself in a couple months when the Extended cut comes out and the price probably goes back up $10 or so.
And Tim, sometimes I think you secretly work for EA or Bioware...
Careful there Tami, you might inspire a lynching for no good reason.




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