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TamiBx wrote...
GuardianAngel470 wrote...
Yeah she never really did anything for me. For me she was always that really crazy bro you took on a mission to butcher a village of bad guys. She was just badass, but not terribly attractive. The lack of hair and the nipple belt killed it for me.
Mostly the nipple belt though.
That's why she always wore the other outfit in my game
Spartas Husky wrote...
TamiBx wrote...
GuardianAngel470 wrote...
Yeah she never really did anything for me. For me she was always that really crazy bro you took on a mission to butcher a village of bad guys. She was just badass, but not terribly attractive. The lack of hair and the nipple belt killed it for me.
Mostly the nipple belt though.
That's why she always wore the other outfit in my game
lol unfortunately that killed it for me even more.
Leather jacket, kool glasses and bald..... but lipstick.
TamiBx wrote...
Hahaha, he couldn't wait. The risk was high, but the priiiize was a baby <_<
And oh, if you romanced him and he cheated on you, nobody comforts you. It's like...the most natural thing on the world.
Actually, when Thane dies nobody comforts you. I would get it if you didn't romance him, but if you romanced him, someone should show some...respect. Seriously.
I don't count Tali and Garrus because they're ME1 characters first. If they managed to screw them up too... I woulda lol'd.Fallenfromthesky wrote...
Laterali wrote...
I know right. I was pissed when I saw her, I don't know what to call it, final romance scene. The one The Citadel where you meet her in the bar. It was just terrible. I reloaded the autosave, and went back and broke up with her and romanced Ashley or Liara or something, at least they had some actual fleshed out scenes.
It was terrible the way the ME2 cast got treated in this game. Especially Jacob. I didn't feel one way or another, and never romanced him cause I've never played as a female, but he got screwed, along with everyone who chose him.
My jaw dropped when I saw the scene when he tells you he cheated on you and he couldn't wait forever. Now correct me if I'm wrong, But ME3 takes place just 6 months after ME2. So in that time, The ONLY black character decides that he doesn't want to wait, meets a girl in a couple months time, and gets her knocked up..... Who thought that was a good idea?!
I hear you. the only ME2 characters that had justice done to them were Leigon and Modin. I'm not counting T ali and Garrus because theysuffered the injustice of the ending and starchild.
As for the Jack Citadel scene the bit that sicks with me the most was the wierd spas she does if you say "Let's Dance"
TamiBx wrote...
At least she was wearing clothes :innocent:
Laterali wrote...
Fallenfromthesky wrote...
Laterali wrote...
Normally I agree but Jack was pretty sexy. Sexier in ME3 with hair, definitly, but still pretty sexy in ME2. Besides Tali she was my favorite possible LI.
Just a shame that she was pushed to the side along with most of the other ME2 characters
I know right. I was pissed when I saw her, I don't know what to call it, final romance scene. The one The Citadel where you meet her in the bar. It was just terrible. I reloaded the autosave, and went back and broke up with her and romanced Ashley or Liara or something, at least they had some actual fleshed out scenes.
It was terrible the way the ME2 cast got treated in this game. Especially Jacob. I didn't feel one way or another about his character, and never romanced him cause I've never played as a female, but he got screwed, along with everyone who chose him.
My jaw dropped when I saw the scene when he tells you he cheated on you and he couldn't wait forever. Now correct me if I'm wrong, But ME3 takes place just 6 months after ME2. So in that time, The ONLY black character decides that he doesn't want to wait, meets a girl in a couple months time, and gets her knocked up..... Who thought that was a good idea?!
Spartas Husky wrote...
sAxMoNkI wrote...
EDIT: nvm, I'll link it [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie] http://jarigrimshaw....-Jack-261363898
NOOOOOOOOOO.... she looks all ashley barbie like. hell no.
ME3 Jack is awesome. She's got hair... not a lot, and sort of shaved ins ome parts. but still has that kick as pirate will cut your balls off attitude.
that one is just too girly...for her persona
Laterali wrote...
TamiBx wrote...
Hahaha, he couldn't wait. The risk was high, but the priiiize was a baby <_<
And oh, if you romanced him and he cheated on you, nobody comforts you. It's like...the most natural thing on the world.
Actually, when Thane dies nobody comforts you. I would get it if you didn't romance him, but if you romanced him, someone should show some...respect. Seriously.
That to, me, is the game's biggest flaw. Every storyline was in it's own bubble. There doesn't seem to be a flow in the overall story. Henchmen barely make passing comments on the events, and ackowledging a fallen comrade is barely mentioned.
They had real potential to make this game something special. They just needed to focus on character relationships more. And not just LI's, I mean all of the crew. And they should have, these were the people you were facing the end of the galaxy with. If that's not the time to focus on characters, I don't know when is.
TamiBx wrote...
Spartas Husky wrote...
TamiBx wrote...
GuardianAngel470 wrote...
Yeah she never really did anything for me. For me she was always that really crazy bro you took on a mission to butcher a village of bad guys. She was just badass, but not terribly attractive. The lack of hair and the nipple belt killed it for me.
Mostly the nipple belt though.
That's why she always wore the other outfit in my game
lol unfortunately that killed it for me even more.
Leather jacket, kool glasses and bald..... but lipstick.
At least she was wearing clothes :innocent:
Modifié par Ohpus, 25 avril 2012 - 07:03 .
Phoenix NL wrote...
That I can appreciate but if that's what this is about than that's what needs to be said instead of overly dramatic statements about how we are at a "standoff point" and the entire movement will collapse if we don't take part. Don't get me wrong I'm not against taking part in this, I'm just getting a bit frustrated by these grandiose statements that are being thrown about.sAxMoNkI wrote...
*snip*
A show of numbers and solidarity was my take on the reasoning
All they need to do is look at the forums and the (at least) hundreds of pages of feedback that they've received, the constant tweets and questions, the ever-increasing number of articles agreeing that the ending was bad and things like the cupcake campaign. These people aren't stupid, they're not going to change whatever plans they have for the dlc now because it may seem like all of a sudden the numbers have decreased. I think they know full well that it is down to people waiting to see what they deliver. Any one of them puts up a new comment on the forums or on Twitter and people are all over it - I think they're well aware of the pressure and the expectations being put on them.GroverA125 wrote...
*snip*I mean that in failing this campaign, it shows that there's not many people left standing against them, then that means that since they then will be able to believe that there's only 900 or so of us, they won't do much for us, instead of just feeding the pro-enders more space magic, plotholes and nonsence into it. Numbers are the only thing we have on our side, if we lose that viability, we fall like bricks. That's our primary advantage. Nobody can calculate our numbers. The greatest and most instinctive fear in humankind is that of the unknown. Since they literally have no idea how expansive we are, that gives us advantage. If we do get a number labelled onto us, we lose that advantage, and then things get a lot worse for our side.
They've announced the EC, and there's a *chance* that it might give us all what we have hoped for this whole time. It's not made yet, they still have plenty of time to change parts of it. The less our numbers appear to be, the lower that chance of us being happy is. Why would Bioware choose to make DLC if it only caters for 100 people out of around a million, when they could give the other people what they want instead? Numbers are all we have, other than support of reviewers, which again is classes as just numbers. We need to keep our numbers high, or at least make it look like our numbers are higher than they actually are.
sAxMoNkI wrote...
Phoenix NL wrote...
That I can appreciate but if that's what this is about than that's what needs to be said instead of overly dramatic statements about how we are at a "standoff point" and the entire movement will collapse if we don't take part. Don't get me wrong I'm not against taking part in this, I'm just getting a bit frustrated by these grandiose statements that are being thrown about.sAxMoNkI wrote...
*snip*
A show of numbers and solidarity was my take on the reasoning
Yeah there has been a tendency towards hyperbole lately but I doubt it was intentional. I'd put it more down to misguided passion to finally get some kind of recognition out of Bioware/ EA .
I'm aware the EC is a recognition of the fanbase's criticisms but (IMO) this switch on/ switch off is so that Bioware take note of what the fanbase is saying regarding the EC. Just my 2 cents though I may be wildly wrong
Spartas Husky wrote...
....she was bald which makes her more a man lol... with lipstick.
Modifié par TamiBx, 25 avril 2012 - 07:10 .
It's that misguided passion that makes me uneasy. It could so easily backfire and then it will be back to the media calling us "entitled whiners" etc instead of focussing on fixing the ending.sAxMoNkI wrote...
Phoenix NL wrote...
That I can appreciate but if that's what this is about than that's what needs to be said instead of overly dramatic statements about how we are at a "standoff point" and the entire movement will collapse if we don't take part. Don't get me wrong I'm not against taking part in this, I'm just getting a bit frustrated by these grandiose statements that are being thrown about.sAxMoNkI wrote...
*snip*
A show of numbers and solidarity was my take on the reasoning
Yeah there has been a tendency towards hyperbole lately but I doubt it was intentional. I'd put it more down to misguided passion to finally get some kind of recognition out of Bioware/ EA .
I'm aware the EC is a recognition of the fanbase's criticisms but (IMO) this switch on/ switch off is so that Bioware take note of what the fanbase is saying regarding the EC. Just my 2 cents though I may be wildly wrong
Phoenix NL wrote...
*SNIP*
There are ladies on this thread too. Also, I don't see how "failing" in this would put the movement back to square one. They're not going to un-announced the EC dlc and regardless whether you are optimistic or pessimistic about it, we do not know what it will contain. I appreciate people wanting to make sure that BioWare knows that people are still there and waiting for a resolution but I feel saying that this particular event is going to make or break the movement is a little much. I just don't understand what exactly you're expecting from BioWare beyond what they have already given us? They have received our feedback and it is up to them how they wish to integrate that into the dlc they are giving us. Should it still be a complete fiasco afterwards then by all means, I just don't see what you're hoping to accomplish right at this moment.
Modifié par Artemis_Fowl, 25 avril 2012 - 07:13 .
Phoenix NL wrote...
It's that misguided passion that makes me uneasy. It could so easily backfire and then it will be back to the media calling us "entitled whiners" etc instead of focussing on fixing the ending.
Phoenix NL wrote...
Your statement in bold bothers me for the simple reason that it suggests that by having to make our numbers look higher than they are that we are in the minority. I also don't particularly like the insinuation that we need to deceive BioWare about our numbers so that we get what we want.
Modifié par GroverA125, 25 avril 2012 - 07:22 .
I agree comletely with this (well othert than that the ending itself is the game's biggest flaw). I was making this exact comment just recently to someone. Nothing is ever given an oppurtunity to tie together. The tuchanka stroyline wraps itself up nicely. The Rannoch storyline wraps itself up nicely. But they don't tie in with each other all that well, and the rest of the game doesn't really fit well with them. Given the absolutly linear nature of the game, I don't know how exactly they failed in this regard (I think it has a lot to do with the ending.)Laterali wrote...
TamiBx wrote...
Hahaha, he couldn't wait. The risk was high, but the priiiize was a baby <_<
And oh, if you romanced him and he cheated on you, nobody comforts you. It's like...the most natural thing on the world.
Actually, when Thane dies nobody comforts you. I would get it if you didn't romance him, but if you romanced him, someone should show some...respect. Seriously.
That to, me, is the game's biggest flaw. Every storyline was in it's own bubble. There doesn't seem to be a flow in the overall story. Henchmen barely make passing comments on the events, and ackowledging a fallen comrade is barely mentioned.
They had real potential to make this game something special. They just needed to focus on character relationships more. And not just LI's, I mean all of the crew. And they should have, these were the people you were facing the end of the galaxy with. If that's not the time to focus on characters, I don't know when is.
Modifié par g_bassi13, 25 avril 2012 - 07:21 .
I can appreciate what you're saying and I'll reiterate that I'm not against this campaign. I'm just concerned that the language that is being used can be seen as giving an impression no one wants to give. It would not take much for opinion to turn against those of us hoping for a better ending and the rhetoric being used is just skirting a bit too close to that line for my taste. Think of it more as presentation vs substanceGroverA125 wrote...
*snip* Sorry if my point didn't sound like I wanted it to. I'd love to explain why that is, but I'd be here all day and would waste a couple of our pages.
g_bassi13 wrote...
I agree comletely with this (well othert than that the ending itself is the game's biggest flaw). I was making this exact comment just recently to someone. Nothing is ever given an oppurtunity to tie together. The tuchanka stroyline wraps itself up nicely. The Rannoch storyline wraps itself up nicely. But they don't tie in with each other all that well, and the rest of the game doesn't really fit well with them. Given the absolutly linear nature of the game, I don't know how exactly they failed in this regard (I think it has a lot to do with the ending.)
As for the characters, it'd take to long to get properly started on that, lol. They really took away the personable aspects of all the characters, and just placed them in the background. When the high degree of interaction with these people was one of the strongest aspects of the last 2 games, it's disappointing how they just ripped it out of the game.
You're right that the game had the potential to be something special, but they flitted it away by not taking the proper time to make the game. The time to properly flesh out the story. The time to properly respect the characters. The time to acknowledge the choices that we had been making over the last 3 games.
TamiBx wrote...
Also, the lack of real dialogue (not banter) made the characters less important except when Bioware wanted them to be important.
誕生日おめでと!TamiBx wrote...
So who is turning 21 tonight and going out to celebrate?! ME!
But who would rather be here holding the line? Me....
Real life can be such a pain. And honestly, when this whole thing started in March, I did not think that it would last all the way to the end of April. I thought that by the time my birthday came, we would know for sure what was going to happen, and if we did, we would know what was going to be on it...but here I am, still living the stages of grief over ME3 ending...
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