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English language definitely needs some sort of greeting which conveys "good too early". I could use it every Friday (have to wake up at 5AM to get in time to a lecture starting 8.15)cyborgchris wrote...
and good morning/evening/whatever it is in your timezone
Modifié par Atrocity, 27 avril 2012 - 10:15 .
Atrocity wrote...
English language definitely needs some sort of greeting which conveys "good too early". I could use it every Friday (have to wake up at 5AM to get in time to a lecture starin 8.15)cyborgchris wrote...
and good morning/evening/whatever it is in your timezone
Atrocity wrote...
And just in case no oen has posted this yet: results for the survey mentioned.
GuardianAngel470 wrote...
Not quite sure what you mean, but "good day" or "salutations" might work.
I guess English is just heavily reliant on descriptive words rather than general expressions. "Good" as a description of a state of being and "morning" as a description of a time of day. We don't really have set phrases that mean something or single words that mean a lot. We rely on combining lots of words together and context to indicate intentions.
Maybe that's one reason people say English is a hard language to learn. You really have to learn a pretty vast vocabulary just to be able to understand basic grammar.
GuardianAngel470 wrote...
Atrocity wrote...
And just in case no oen has posted this yet: results for the survey mentioned.
If you mean the survey that was just lined to, that isn't the results page. That's the results for the 4 question, drag-to-organize survey they did. This one is new.
Modifié par Atrocity, 27 avril 2012 - 10:27 .
I'm lucky enough to speak a few languages and english is by far the easiest of the lot. Other european languages like Dutch, French, Italian etc are much more complicated but if you really want to give yourself a headache try Japanese. You need to know 3 different types of writing and you need to know on average 3000 Kanji before you leave high school and each of those can mean around 3 different things depending on the characters around it. English is very succinct in comparison!GuardianAngel470 wrote...
I guess English is just heavily reliant on descriptive words rather than general expressions. "Good" as a description of a state of being and "morning" as a description of a time of day. We don't really have set phrases that mean something or single words that mean a lot. We rely on combining lots of words together and context to indicate intentions.
Maybe that's one reason people say English is a hard language to learn. You really have to learn a pretty vast vocabulary just to be able to understand basic grammar.
Modifié par Phoenix NL, 27 avril 2012 - 10:32 .
I'd say German is easier to learn, since mostly it bothers to follow its own grammar rules. It also has a spelling system which reflects the phonetics of the word, whereas English is only just better than Chinese when it comes to written representations. Though cunningly it gives the impression of reflecting the spoken word, luring the innocent speaker to a horrendous trap...Phoenix NL wrote...
I'm lucky enough to speak a few languages and english is by far the easiest of the lot. Other european languages like Dutch, French, Italian etc are much more complicated but if you really want to give yourself a headache try Japanese. You need to know 3 different types of writing and you need to know on average 3000 Kanji before you leave high school and each of those can mean around 3 different things depending on the characters around it. English is very succinct in comparison!GuardianAngel470 wrote...
I guess English is just heavily reliant on descriptive words rather than general expressions. "Good" as a description of a state of being and "morning" as a description of a time of day. We don't really have set phrases that mean something or single words that mean a lot. We rely on combining lots of words together and context to indicate intentions.
Maybe that's one reason people say English is a hard language to learn. You really have to learn a pretty vast vocabulary just to be able to understand basic grammar.
One of the few readable new books in that series. I read all of them when I was a wee gal. Them and Stephen King and Eddings. And look how well I turned out <_<Nharia1 wrote...
*looks at the thread* wow... its really slowed down... Huh, well I'm gonna go to sleep, listening to a recorded book from the Redwall Series, Taggerung, if you've ever heard of it... Anyways, night all~!
*waves*
I really struggle with German, for a Dutch speaker it's a very harsh language. The few times I've tried I've always been laughed at for my "plattdeutsche". But then Dutch and German are very different when it comes to phonetics etc.Atrocity wrote...
I'd say German is easier to learn, since mostly it bothers to follow its own grammar rules. It also has a spelling system which reflects the phonetics of the word, whereas English is only just better than Chinese when it comes to written representations. Though cunningly it gives the impression of reflecting the spoken word, luring the innocent speaker to a horrendous trap...Phoenix NL wrote...
I'm lucky enough to speak a few languages and english is by far the easiest of the lot. Other european languages like Dutch, French, Italian etc are much more complicated but if you really want to give yourself a headache try Japanese. You need to know 3 different types of writing and you need to know on average 3000 Kanji before you leave high school and each of those can mean around 3 different things depending on the characters around it. English is very succinct in comparison!
English is not particularly easy, but neither hard language to learn. Tonal languages are hard to learn as a foreign language according to most linguists.
Eddings is brilliantAtrocity wrote...
One of the few readable new books in that series. I read all of them when I was a wee gal. Them and Stephen King and Eddings. And look how well I turned out <_<Nharia1 wrote...
*looks at the thread* wow... its really slowed down... Huh, well I'm gonna go to sleep, listening to a recorded book from the Redwall Series, Taggerung, if you've ever heard of it... Anyways, night all~!
*waves*
I suppose there's a lot of truth in that. I'm still waiting to hear what else they have planned for ME3 so I can understand the whole picture that they're trying to give us.Andreastornqvist wrote...
I honestly hope that the Extended Cut will bring some sense to the ending. To be honest I'll be satisfied if that is all, since I seriously doubt that anything would convince Bioware/EA to change the ending radically.
And yeah the thread has slowed down a lot, nothing wrong with that.
Phoenix NL wrote...
I suppose there's a lot of truth in that. I'm still waiting to hear what else they have planned for ME3 so I can understand the whole picture that they're trying to give us.
Phoenix NL wrote...
I really struggle with German, for a Dutch speaker it's a very harsh language. The few times I've tried I've always been laughed at for my "plattdeutsche". But then Dutch and German are very different when it comes to phonetics etc.
The worst I had with English was when I was in my Lit class doing King Lear and I had to read a passage about the Duke of Gloucester - I pronounced it exactly as it was spelled. Much hilarity ensued for my classmates....
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For the most part. I understand he was quite old when writing Althalus etc, but it still bugged me how copy paste his books felt like, if read at short intervals at least. But Belgarath and Polgara will forever be my favourites. Polgara was actually the first book I ever read from him. Much more interesting than Belgarion, though I have to admit I was kinda lost few times having read Belgarion only afterwards x)Phoenix NL wrote...
Eddings is brilliantAtrocity wrote...
One of the few readable new books in that series. I read all of them when I was a wee gal. Them and Stephen King and Eddings. And look how well I turned out <_<Nharia1 wrote...
*looks at the thread* wow... its really slowed down... Huh, well I'm gonna go to sleep, listening to a recorded book from the Redwall Series, Taggerung, if you've ever heard of it... Anyways, night all~!
*waves*
I'm so glad I don't have to do those exams anymore though I swear I could still write an entire essay on hidden meanings and themes etc. Blech! Weirdly German is the only language that I have trouble with pronounciation and it's only because Dutch is softer and so I will always pronounce it that way. Ah the fun of linguistics!Atrocity wrote...
Phoenix NL wrote...
I really struggle with German, for a Dutch speaker it's a very harsh language. The few times I've tried I've always been laughed at for my "plattdeutsche". But then Dutch and German are very different when it comes to phonetics etc.
The worst I had with English was when I was in my Lit class doing King Lear and I had to read a passage about the Duke of Gloucester - I pronounced it exactly as it was spelled. Much hilarity ensued for my classmates....
HAH, like anyone actually spoke hochdeutsch in Germany themselves... Ok, Christoph Waltz excluded, but I don't think even he speaks that at home. And yes, speaking German like a native is hard, but that's how it is with any language, the grammar is logical, syntax is logical and most things do work as they would have you believe.
And I had to memorize whole King Lear for my first literature exam. Along with other texts
Not sure whether I would've preferred acting it or reading it out loud... Considering my teacher didn't laugh at me doing Hamlet, I guess reading it would've been ok.
Atrocity wrote...
Phoenix NL wrote...
I really struggle with German, for a Dutch speaker it's a very harsh language. The few times I've tried I've always been laughed at for my "plattdeutsche". But then Dutch and German are very different when it comes to phonetics etc.
The worst I had with English was when I was in my Lit class doing King Lear and I had to read a passage about the Duke of Gloucester - I pronounced it exactly as it was spelled. Much hilarity ensued for my classmates....
HAH, like anyone actually spoke hochdeutsch in Germany themselves... Ok, Christoph Waltz excluded, but I don't think even he speaks that at home. And yes, speaking German like a native is hard, but that's how it is with any language, the grammar is logical, syntax is logical and most things do work as they would have you believe.
And I had to memorize whole King Lear for my first literature exam. Along with other texts
Not sure whether I would've preferred acting it or reading it out loud... Considering my teacher didn't laugh at me doing Hamlet, I guess reading it would've been ok.
That it does! I would also be interested in learning who those figures were that we saw on Ilos because they don't look like Protheans, assuming they all looked like Javik.Andreastornqvist wrote...
Phoenix NL wrote...
I suppose there's a lot of truth in that. I'm still waiting to hear what else they have planned for ME3 so I can understand the whole picture that they're trying to give us.
Agreed. I'm interested to see exactly what "Anderson" and "Prothean" is. It could be quite fun, but the ending NEEDS to be adressed as well.
I was stupid enough to do English Lit as a higher choice for IB. I had to laugh at my younger siblings going to school here moaning about having to do their 3 or 4 A-levels and how hard it was. Having to do 3 higher subjects and 3 subsidiary subjects was a nightmare!GuardianAngel470 wrote...
I'm quite glad I somehow managed to avoid hard literature. It's probably worse for Europeans (apparently us American folk have poor education) but my brother had to struggle through a lot of it when he was in IB.
I really like reading, I just really don't like picking things apart. I prefer to be swept away.
*hides from Atrocity's evil eyes*
Phoenix NL wrote...
That it does! I would also be interested in learning who those figures were that we saw on Ilos because they don't look like Protheans, assuming they all looked like Javik.
Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 27 avril 2012 - 11:04 .
BigglesFlysAgain wrote...
I still wonder if there was more varity in the protheans than the bugmen like Javik, becuase he mentioned several races that were "prothean", perhaps the same way the roman emprie subjugated other nations into its fold...
Would you believe that to me German sounds actually really, really soft compared to Finnish or English? The lack of plosives is the reason (if we're talking about how people actually speak. Till Lindeman is not a good specimen). As well as the constant avoidance of /ɹ/ and /r/. English is plosive heavy, as is Swedish, and Finnish... we don't flow from word to another like German does, we kinda stumble from consonant to consonant, with every other sound being a vowel sound.Phoenix NL wrote...
I'm so glad I don't have to do those exams anymore though I swear I could still write an entire essay on hidden meanings and themes etc. Blech! Weirdly German is the only language that I have trouble with pronounciation and it's only because Dutch is softer and so I will always pronounce it that way. Ah the fun of linguistics!
And that's also the reason why Finnish sounds a lot like Japanese. I'm not sure whether nasality is a phonemic marker in Japanese though... Not one in Finnish, it's a dialect thing if present at all.
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