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[Computim]

Goodwood wrote...

Well, Lord Nelson was a ship captain at age twenty...

Yeah Colonial British Navy you could have a 14 year old Junior Officer... just think Master & Commander...

Irony is nowadays we get upset if a 13 year old plays Mass Effect, 200 years ago that 13 year old could be leading a platoon of Royal Marines on an assault in the Caribbean.  How things change.

[Goodwood]

Computim wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Well, Lord Nelson was a ship captain at age twenty...

Yeah Colonial British Navy you could have a 14 year old Junior Officer... just think Master & Commander...

Irony is nowadays we get upset if a 13 year old plays Mass Effect, 200 years ago that 13 year old could be leading a platoon of Royal Marines on an assault in the Caribbean.  How things change.

Yeah, well, you could also buy a commission (as Wellington did) and the kid in M&C was a noble.

But you're right; standards for maturity have skyrocketed in the last two hundred years; personally I think there's a distinct correlation between that and the lengthening of the average human lifespan. To whit: an asari is considered to be capable of living independantly at sixty, and Liara at 106 in ME1 is considered "barely more than a child." Also, our world and base of knowledge have become increasingly complex; by the time you and I are grandparents, our grandkids will be learning calculous in the fifth grade (ten or eleven).

[Ihatebadgames]

Hey all I'm back on line,holding the line.Anything good happen since my net dropped me this a.m.?Been a bad week for net around here.Let's me say hi then quits.

[Who Said That]

The worst part for me is that after asking us for our suggestions on endings, they just turned around saying that their authors know what's best and that they'll make no changes other than additions to the existing endings. The real problem is that they basically let us write the story from day one of ME1. I thought the ending of Halo Reach was sad, but nobody really cared because we knew from the start that we were along for the ride. If BioWare wanted the privilege of total authorship, they should have claimed it years ago. After spending all that money on the games, logging so many hours, petitioning everywhere I could to get the endings changed and writing on the forums for hours making positive suggestions, all I can say now is F U BioWare....

[Computim]

Goodwood wrote...

Yeah, well, you could also buy a commission (as Wellington did) and the kid in M&C was a noble.

But you're right; standards for maturity have skyrocketed in the last two hundred years; personally I think there's a distinct correlation between that and the lengthening of the average human lifespan. To whit: an asari is considered to be capable of living independantly at sixty, and Liara at 106 in ME1 is considered "barely more than a child." Also, our world and base of knowledge have become increasingly complex; by the time you and I are grandparents, our grandkids will be learning calculous in the fifth grade (ten or eleven).

Oh I know he bought it in that..  But his orders were no less valid was my point haha.  I was thinking the same thing about the lifespan.. 200 years ago it was what, 35, 40? 50 if you were lucky...

It's sad that they managed to add in that extra little detail for Liara and, despite all of that detail, they never added in the detail for the ending, the stuff that would make sense, they rushed it out the door.. I honestly wonder how many inside Bioware feel like we do but more from an actual artistic integrity point of view... in that their vision was incomplete, that all the work they'd done to polish the detail to this point was going to be rushed out the door for the last 5 minutes ... no wonder they didn't want to give them the cupcakes, they're afraid of the enemies within the gates as much as those outside haha :innocent:

[TamiBx]

 I hate it when people twist your words and talk to you as if you are wrong, and in a "I'm putting you down" tone. <_<
Why can't people just be...nice? Ugh.


I need some fun stuff. Does anyone have the Marauder Shield's comic link? 

[Ihatebadgames]

Computim wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Well, Lord Nelson was a ship captain at age twenty...

Yeah Colonial British Navy you could have a 14 year old Junior Officer... just think Master & Commander...

Irony is nowadays we get upset if a 13 year old plays Mass Effect, 200 years ago that 13 year old could be leading a platoon of Royal Marines on an assault in the Caribbean.  How things change.

In the early 1800s in Missouri, indians were attacking this fort.They had one horse left.The nearest help was 10 miles away at another fort.The one picked to ride for help was a young girl as she'd be light enough for the horse to run faster longer,and maybe make it to get help without being caught.Her father offered her his rifle,she refused as she'd only have one shot and couldn't reload without having to stop.Plus she was worried it would weigh the horse down.Her father agreed,said she knew best and off she went.She was 10 years old.

[Computim]

TamiBx wrote...

 I hate it when people twist your words and talk to you as if you are wrong, and in a "I'm putting you down" tone. <_<
Why can't people just be...nice? Ugh.


I need some fun stuff. Does anyone have the Marauder Shield's comic link? 

*drops the citadel kid into a pit with a bunch of AI eating tigers, motions to the chair with the coke next to it*, "Your wish, my command"

[TamiBx]

 

Computim wrote...


*drops the citadel kid into a pit with a bunch of AI eating tigers, motions to the chair with the coke next to it*, "Your wish, my command" 

I wish we could get that in game...:innocent:

Honestly, I want an option to punch or disagree with stupid kid.


I have a question: what happened to that Citadel Mission that was cut from previous ME and put into ME3? I know they talked about it last year and it never happened in the game...(unless they meant the coup) 

[Nharia1]

Goodwood wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...
*ninja's back in* So what have I missed?

You missed a HUG ATTACK! *glomps Nhari*

Hey Goodwood~! Ugh I hate this stupid mission/level in FONV Dead Money.... >,<

[Computim]

TamiBx wrote...

I wish we could get that in game...:innocent:

Honestly, I want an option to punch or disagree with stupid kid.


I have a question: what happened to that Citadel Mission that was cut from previous ME and put into ME3? I know they talked about it last year and it never happened in the game...(unless they meant the coup) 

I don't actually remember that conversation... be curious to see it myself, just off top of my head I assume it's the Udina one because they said they wanted to kill him off 2nd game.. if not that's a "wow" moment.

@IHateBadGames - Yeah, don't underestimate kids, or people in desparate situations.  I wouldn't be surprised if there were some not so nice races/humans who were offering children as sacrifices to the Reapers to save their civillizations.

[RussianOrc]

I don't know if this was already posted but it's worth posting anyway.
http://www.cinemable...-Big-41855.html
Hold the Wallet on Gamingblend.

[Kyria Nyriese]

OK back from a round of SWTOR with the Kaidanites. I see nothing new seems to have happened in the last couple of hours.

@Goodwood, Nhari HUG ATTACK

[Computim]

RussianOrc wrote...

I don't know if this was already posted but it's worth posting anyway.
http://www.cinemable...-Big-41855.html
Hold the Wallet on Gamingblend.

Saw that yesterday, thanks!  Yeah dunno what's going on over at Gamingblend but they seem unapologetically on the line's side lol.

[Goodwood]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

OK back from a round of SWTOR with the Kaidanites. I see nothing new seems to have happened in the last couple of hours.

@Goodwood, Nhari HUG ATTACK

HUG BLITZ!

I haven't been able to play TOR ever since ME3's ending. My guild are wondering what the kriff happened to me, most likely; more likely, they've long since decided I'm a goner and kicked me out. But I don't care. Even though I'd committed myself to them and said I'd never just pop off the 'Net and leave them hanging. I had meant it then. I stopped meaning it not long after that double-punch to the gut.

[Kyria Nyriese]

Goodwood wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

OK back from a round of SWTOR with the Kaidanites. I see nothing new seems to have happened in the last couple of hours.

@Goodwood, Nhari HUG ATTACK

HUG BLITZ!

I haven't been able to play TOR ever since ME3's ending. My guild are wondering what the kriff happened to me, most likely; more likely, they've long since decided I'm a goner and kicked me out. But I don't care. Even though I'd committed myself to them and said I'd never just pop off the 'Net and leave them hanging. I had meant it then. I stopped meaning it not long after that double-punch to the gut.

Fully understand that, I have been kicked by one of my guilds, the other one is kind of inactive at the moment with me still as Co-GM.  I'm only playing because of the wonderful ladies and gents over at the Kaidan thread, we got together on a server and started a guild and have fun just running around and chatting about ME and Kaidan.

[Kyria Nyriese]

On that note, good night fellow line holders, I am going to get some rack time in before my cats drive me absolutely insane. See everyone on the morrow.

HOLD THE LINE!!!

Oh and HUG ATTACKS where applicable.

[RussianOrc]

I was searching for marauder shields on google and my god...
There are literally hundreds of pages about him around the internet.
There is even a wiki http://maraudershiel...er_Shields_Wiki
I wonder how much time will take before someone comes up with a marauder shields tattoo. xD

Modifié par RussianOrc, 28 avril 2012 - 04:53 .

[Ihatebadgames]

I finished Witcher 2 on my xbox.I was happy.I'm happily playing it again,even though I have to fight that F'in^$% Kayran again.I look at my ME3 CE and feel sick.I would love to feel happy for ME3 also.

[dragonflight288]

....I understand people are upset by Bioware because of the ending. I myself was disappointed by the ending. But (and this is not meant as a flame or an attack, I'm honestly curious) why would people cancel their subscription to TOR based on their disappointment with ME3's ending? Seriously. It's a completely different game with its own quality.

If people want to boycott Mass Effect 3 and try to get Bioware to change the ending, wouldn't it be easier to do that going through EA games instead? EA owns Bioware right now, and having worked in the corporate world (as a low level grunt mainly, but I've seen enough bureaucracy to last me a lifetime) it is most likely EA telling Bioware exactly when something comes out, how much comes out, DLC development time, and no matter how much Bioware may want to polish the game itself up, may end up with the choice of "release the game early and not entirely finished, or be fired and still release the game but not work on it later." All controlled by EA.

So again, why let the Mass Effect franchise effect one's satisfaction with a game from a different genre with its own highs and lows?

[Darth Garrus]

Hi, everyone. I'm late. But here as ever. Any news???

Holding the line!!!

[RussianOrc]

Interesting...
http://i.imgur.com/XLVUn.png

Modifié par RussianOrc, 28 avril 2012 - 05:05 .

[Goodwood]

dragonflight288 wrote...

....I understand people are upset by Bioware because of the ending. I myself was disappointed by the ending. But (and this is not meant as a flame or an attack, I'm honestly curious) why would people cancel their subscription to TOR based on their disappointment with ME3's ending? Seriously. It's a completely different game with its own quality.

If people want to boycott Mass Effect 3 and try to get Bioware to change the ending, wouldn't it be easier to do that going through EA games instead? EA owns Bioware right now, and having worked in the corporate world (as a low level grunt mainly, but I've seen enough bureaucracy to last me a lifetime) it is most likely EA telling Bioware exactly when something comes out, how much comes out, DLC development time, and no matter how much Bioware may want to polish the game itself up, may end up with the choice of "release the game early and not entirely finished, or be fired and still release the game but not work on it later." All controlled by EA.

So again, why let the Mass Effect franchise effect one's satisfaction with a game from a different genre with its own highs and lows?

Oh, I never said I cancelled my subscription. When I bought TOR about a month before ME3 came out, I also bought two additional months of game-time and they recently gave me another thirty days.

As for your question, it's a psychological thing near as I can tell. It's not so much a general hatred of BioWare games that's come over me, but rather an inability to care. Apathy for the RPG genre as a whole has set in, and since TOR was my first mumorpuger and the only RPGs I've ever played were BioWare titles, you can kind of see why my interest just...died off. I don't play JRPGs on principle, and the ideas behind Bethesda titles never really drew me in (mostly because they're your standard fantasy or post-apocalyptic settings).

But it's not just RPGs that I can't seem to get back into; it's other kinds of games, too. I haven't played Battlefield 3 since ME3 either; the only other game I can recall putting any decent amount of time in other than ME3 multiplayer (yeah, I play it, it's a good release sometimes) is a heavily-modded version of Empire at War: Forces of Corruption. I also can't be arsed to investigate new games. Lately I've been doing a lot of reading and plastic model building, when I'm not trying to land a job someplace.

[TamiBx]

dragonflight288 wrote...

....I understand people are upset by Bioware because of the ending. I myself was disappointed by the ending. But (and this is not meant as a flame or an attack, I'm honestly curious) why would people cancel their subscription to TOR based on their disappointment with ME3's ending? Seriously. It's a completely different game with its own quality.

If people want to boycott Mass Effect 3 and try to get Bioware to change the ending, wouldn't it be easier to do that going through EA games instead? EA owns Bioware right now, and having worked in the corporate world (as a low level grunt mainly, but I've seen enough bureaucracy to last me a lifetime) it is most likely EA telling Bioware exactly when something comes out, how much comes out, DLC development time, and no matter how much Bioware may want to polish the game itself up, may end up with the choice of "release the game early and not entirely finished, or be fired and still release the game but not work on it later." All controlled by EA.

So again, why let the Mass Effect franchise effect one's satisfaction with a game from a different genre with its own highs and lows?

Well, I do not have a SWTOR subscription, so I cannot speak for everyone, but here is how I see it:

SWTOR is directly connected to Bioware. If people boycotted other EA games, it could have been for any other reason and it could be random. Or the game could be bad. There is no way to know.

By cancelling the subscription for TOR and stating that ME3 was the problem, it is directly affecting Bioware and showing them that there are many people who do not like the ending, and if they want their subcribers back, they need to do something about it. 

Yes, EA has a say in it, but in the end, Bioware is the one who is going to make a DLC, so we want to appeal to Bioware, not EA.

edit: haha, forgot to add the "not" 

Modifié par TamiBx, 28 avril 2012 - 05:11 .

[CaptnObvious]

RussianOrc wrote...

Interesting...
http://i.imgur.com/XLVUn.png

Mitt Romney is much more indoctrinated. His skin texture will show it once he steps into the Crucibl- I mean White House, if he ever does... Which he won't.


On a side note, it's much easier to send a message to Bioware than EA. EA has other things to do, and they'll blame their subsidiaries anyways. It's sad for Bioware to take the bulk of the anger, but EA has also paid the price, just checking their stocks value (since money is the only real way to get to them).