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#9201
curelightwounds

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

Then explain this pic 


http://i1001.photobu...lax/photo_3.jpg



I literally have no idea what you want me to see

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ArchLord James wrote...

I'm gonna come back to this thread and laugh at all of you when you find out how much you cried over a distortion of the truth.

Seriously, the game isn't even out yet, but just 3 more days and we will find out the truth about the endingS.


Hey James if this is the case I'll be the first one laughing my @ss off over here about flipping out about the endings being so Messed UP.

I hope that the games that were shot into space were locked or some such thing, I hope it's a different and much better thing than what it seems to be.

If not BW is in for one hell of a fan back lash, I just hope that they can take it like adults and not ban us for being reasonalbly upset and expressing our selves in a pilite manor.

If the endings are as mess up as the look to be, than I'm dang sure not gonna be shy and calling BW out on this whole mess.

These are the seeds they've sown and fans may not be happy,

To quote Blackie Lawless "The Seeds you've sown coming home to hate ya, for breeding your greed there is non to save ya, bring the Lair let him feel the fire alright"

The meaning behind that as put by Blackie is "Ya Lie to people, and destroy something they love, ya gotta be man enough to face the consiqences brought before ya by the ones you've wronged"

I just can't help quoting good ol' Blackie

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Was just over on the Ashley forum, where I gladly lurked for a long time. Everyone there is like "I cant wait for an ending with me and her together!!!". If you think the anger here is bad - we are the people already INNOCULATED to the ending. Can you imagine what it will be like for the people who have no idea what's coming and are expecting something less grimdark? WE are going to be the ones calming THEM down.

Oh, the poor dear... And they'll keep her on the Normandy too of course, only to get the Deliverance Planet ending... It's going to be horrible for them. :crying:


What is brutally hilarious is that if your LI is on the ship, they are guaranteed to be the broodmother/father for someone other than Shepard, LOL. There's a Chuck Norris roundhouse to the nuts for them.

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CerberusSoldier wrote...




Then explain this pic 


http://i1001.photobu...lax/photo_3.jpg



"It's not hard evidence! Photoshop! An effort to spite pirates at the cost of good publicity! Magic! Anything that doesn't support what I believe to be true!"

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Mike Gamble talking to 360 magazine.

"We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…"

and btw, trolling the pirates who like to steal people hard earned work is just fun.

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Thats what I'm going with.  Lets look at the facts:

1.  Xio is in violation of his NDA.
2.  Bioware should know by now that we don't like poor endings i.e. DA2 (I liked it believe it or not)
3.  The vids come from a Russian Pirate copy (chances are [i hope] it was bait)
4.  Over the past 5 years they have been spouting how ME is about your choices.  (suddenly they forgot that?)
5.  There's someone quoted from bioware that they are not going to "LOST" the series.
6.  The game is not out yet.  All of this anger is unfounded...... for now.

I just don't buy it.  Literely if the rumors are true.


lmfao, again with "facts" and "hard evidence", as in "facts that only support what I want to believe rather than what's actually been presented"

Everything you've said has been countered by factual evidence that you're simply choosing not to acknowledge as factual.


Are They not true.  You're using hearsay to justify your stance.  Pics and vids come from #3

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kingsims wrote...

I can't wait till March 7-10th to watch 10% of the commuinity get banned and the backfire at bioware. I told them to go read the spoilers so they could brace themselves but they didn't listen. Chris and Stanley won't even bother writing lock down they will just lock the thread and ban the original author of the thread without explanation.

I expect the Liara thread to get locked because she gets screwed either way.


:crying::crying::crying:

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recentio wrote...

kingsims wrote...

I can't wait till March 7-10th to watch 10% of the commuinity get banned and the backfire at bioware. I told them to go read the spoilers so they could brace themselves but they didn't listen. Chris and Stanley won't even bother writing lock down they will just lock the thread and ban the original author of the thread without explanation.

I expect the Liara thread to get locked because she gets screwed either way.


:crying::crying::crying:


There there.

I feel so sorry for her fans. And I don't even like her.

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ArchLord James wrote...

Mike Gamble talking to 360 magazine.

"We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…"

and btw, trolling the pirates who like to steal people hard earned work is just fun.


I'm still in denial and pray for this.

My inner-cynic laughs bitterly.

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Karrie788 wrote...

recentio wrote...

kingsims wrote...

I can't wait till March 7-10th to watch 10% of the commuinity get banned and the backfire at bioware. I told them to go read the spoilers so they could brace themselves but they didn't listen. Chris and Stanley won't even bother writing lock down they will just lock the thread and ban the original author of the thread without explanation.

I expect the Liara thread to get locked because she gets screwed either way.


:crying::crying::crying:


There there.

I feel so sorry for her fans. And I don't even like her.

Same here.

"But it's art!"
"For art!"

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GBGriffin wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...




Then explain this pic 


http://i1001.photobu...lax/photo_3.jpg



"It's not hard evidence! Photoshop! An effort to spite pirates at the cost of good publicity! Magic! Anything that doesn't support what I believe to be true!"


You're right.  That picture (or the lack of it) is worth a thousand words.:o  And besides whats wrong with wanting to beleive in some magic.  Even if it is unrealistic, it'll get me to the 6th without spazzing out.

#9212
curelightwounds

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ArchLord James wrote...

Mike Gamble talking to 360 magazine.

"We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…"

and btw, trolling the pirates who like to steal people hard earned work is just fun.

Do you have a quote to that article? I would love to read that.

I just need someone to pat my head and tell me it's going to be okay.

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So, has someone debunked the Strategy-Guide guy in the past 20 pages or so because we've all gone back to assuming there are no other endings?

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ArchLord James wrote...

and btw, trolling the pirates who like to steal people hard earned work is just fun.


There's trolling pirates, then there's trolling contest winners who won, according to the rules, early copies of the game.

Then, there's trolling pirates with poor gameplay (see Batman), but there weren't any gameplay issues of that magnitude according to the people who played legitmate copies. They were still able to play and beat the game, which sort of renders anti-piracy measures irrelevant if players can still play and beat the game.

Then there's trolling pirates with "bad endings", knowing that info will get pirated, leaked, and turn into a PR nightmare with fans threatening to cancel pre-orders or just be done with the series. Why would people pirating the game care if the endings were bad? The only inevitable result would be to ****** off the fanbase as a whole more than a handful of pirates.

Like I've said, they either "trolled" the public, who still has a chance to buy into or cancel their orders, by generating negative buzz intentionally in a suicidal marketing campaign to spite pirates, or they just wrote and implemented an awful script/design/marketing nightmare. Based on the evidence presented, the latter is the more logical.

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Y'know, as long as they fix the stupid magical teleportation thing, I'm perfectly OK with this. Then you'd have a pretty big decision to make.

As for the relays, having thought about it, any half-decent sci-fi writer could write their way out of that situation into a sequel - even one in a pretty near time frame - pretty easily.

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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

So, has someone debunked the Strategy-Guide guy in the past 20 pages or so because we've all gone back to assuming there are no other endings?


No, but if you find him give him this challange:  PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN else he be troll.

#9217
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you know what all you still denying the truth will be in for a shocking surprise next week . The SG 's little oh there is a special ending . I doubt it is even true

#9218
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GSS115 wrote...


Are They not true.  You're using hearsay to justify your stance.  Pics and vids come from #3


Wrong. Pics and vids came from the pirated copy, Xoisite (who won a legitimate copy if the contest's own rules/marketing are to be believed), and, I believe, other sources as well, all of which showing the same thing and confirming one aspect that was maybe absent in another.

Why the hell would they use a bait copy that plays perfectly fine excpet for crap endings that pirates may or may not even care about, but, when leaked, would clearly cause fans to panic/ get pissed? If that's the case, it's an awful decision to make.

#9219
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Karrie788 wrote...

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

Was just over on the Ashley forum, where I gladly lurked for a long time. Everyone there is like "I cant wait for an ending with me and her together!!!". If you think the anger here is bad - we are the people already INNOCULATED to the ending. Can you imagine what it will be like for the people who have no idea what's coming and are expecting something less grimdark? WE are going to be the ones calming THEM down.


Exactly we are already coming to terms with the way it's going to end - we've gone through the hurt /disappointed stage, we've gone through the anger stage and now we're trying to fill in the gaps explain away/accept.

Those people are going to be heartbroken and some of them are so sure that they will have a happy ending with their love interest (I mean heck even DA2 had this in a text epilogue) and their crew will at least be explained whether they go their separate ways. Mass Effect 2 which was a suicide mission made them think they can come out unscathed from this.

Nothing would indicate to them that this is the ending. They are going to go beserk. How could Bioware have not forseen what a dangerous move this is?


I'm honestly still trying to understand.

Either they felt like doing an "artistic" ending (on which I call BS), or they wanted to make sure to avoid a "canon" ending in future games, since the endings are pretty much the same.


I don't even know if I could accept the reasoning of avoiding a canon ending :/

Synergy ending especially would make a huge difference to the universe. And Citadel being alive or destroyed can't really be ignored either, nor can entire civilisations being dead or alive now that I think about it.

If Bioware can explain away these endings or just go with a canon or go back with prequels, they could have just as easily made the effort to make a scene or even text epilogue where Shepard, his LI and his crew survive together and what they move onto.


I think it fails too, but that was the best I could come up with. xD
I'm going with the "it's art" theory. Which makes me very angry. To put it mildly.


Same here, but the message it portrays to me is ''haha jokes on you, you tried to save everything and we took it from you anyway, we have your money now so no need to replay it''

#9220
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GBGriffin wrote...

ArchLord James wrote...

and btw, trolling the pirates who like to steal people hard earned work is just fun.


There's trolling pirates, then there's trolling contest winners who won, according to the rules, early copies of the game.

Then, there's trolling pirates with poor gameplay (see Batman), but there weren't any gameplay issues of that magnitude according to the people who played legitmate copies. They were still able to play and beat the game, which sort of renders anti-piracy measures irrelevant if players can still play and beat the game.

Then there's trolling pirates with "bad endings", knowing that info will get pirated, leaked, and turn into a PR nightmare with fans threatening to cancel pre-orders or just be done with the series. Why would people pirating the game care if the endings were bad? The only inevitable result would be to ****** off the fanbase as a whole more than a handful of pirates.

Like I've said, they either "trolled" the public, who still has a chance to buy into or cancel their orders, by generating negative buzz intentionally in a suicidal marketing campaign to spite pirates, or they just wrote and implemented an awful script/design/marketing nightmare. Based on the evidence presented, the latter is the more logical.


The whole marketing "nightmare" as you call it is temporary. 

How long do you think it will take for the actual endings to get out after official release? A few days at most. Then you'll see the first articles on the web. "OMG, BIOWARE HID THE ENDINGS FROM NDA BREAKERS! TIS AWESOME!" 

You think the people who cancelled won't be back if enough of those pop up? 

And just for info, I am not saying this is what is happening. I am just pointing out that the "marketing nightmare" as you call it is not really a nightmare. They might even generate more sales from people who say "wow, that was a ballsy move." ;)

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kingsims wrote...

I can't wait till March 7-10th to watch 10% of the commuinity get banned and the backfire at bioware. I told them to go read the spoilers so they could brace themselves but they didn't listen. Chris and Stanley won't even bother writing lock down they will just lock the thread and ban the original author of the thread without explanation.

I expect the Liara thread to get locked because she gets screwed either way.



Yes,Yes
Rub it in why don't you..<_<

#9222
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He posted pics...

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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

So, has someone debunked the Strategy-Guide guy in the past 20 pages or so because we've all gone back to assuming there are no other endings?


I'd like to know this too. Weren't there TWO people who claimed to have seen the guide, and to have photos coming to back it up. Still haven't seen any photos... so my instinct is to call bull****.

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Sia_Sinblade wrote...

So, has someone debunked the Strategy-Guide guy in the past 20 pages or so because we've all gone back to assuming there are no other endings?

His stuff looks very solid and his photos are definately NOT photoshopped. The cover of that guide is real. I wondered from time to time why the two huge aquarium in Sheppard's quarters. I also wondered why that particular fish was so expensive to the other fish. And I wondered why that particular fish was listed as a war asset.

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GSS115 wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

So, has someone debunked the Strategy-Guide guy in the past 20 pages or so because we've all gone back to assuming there are no other endings?


No, but if you find him give him this challange:  PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN else he be troll.


There were pics. In this very thread. SPeaking of an NG+ ending and something about a fish. -.- 

Ahh, here they are: Linkage