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[Elegana]

Sorry if this ends up as a wall of text, but I want to give my thoughts:

1) While I have spoiled myself with parts of the leaked script, information from the Space Edition guy, and Tank, I still have doubts. For one thing, the Space Edition guy started off completely with "NDA! NDA! But I'll tell you about gameplay", but later on, he laxed on the NDA because we were asking a lot about things that happened in the script and he ended up talking more on it. He also "pulled" the files from his 360 and then uploaded it to his PC (in a very short amount of time, IMO), and said: "There is no surprise 7th ending". This contradicts what the supposed strategy guide says.

2) Like I've said in other threads, this could have been an elaborate scheme from EA/BioWare where they get devs or people to go along with the leaked info and say "Hey, I got space edition!" and just follow along. They cause uproar and what not, but when people play the game, they see that the script is the same, but the endings are far different. It could also be a scheme where the endings are true, causing fans to complain and wanting a DLC, in which EA/Bioware does, giving them more money while fans get their endings.

3) Something doesn't add up. The supposed "flashback" was leaked by the guy on SA forums. Originally, he said "Hackett" is the one that appears, not Anderson. Then the space edition guy says "Anderson" appears, not Hackett. SA forum guy then changes it, saying "Yes, I was mistaken. It was Anderson", leaving me with an assumption: SA guy and Space Edition guy are both devs/paid "actors" and are both going off the leaked script. However, SA guy said one thing and the Space Edition guy said the other, which then SA guy went with Space Edition guy.

This is all theory and speculation, and like others have said, we won't know the truth until game day. Until then, people are going to believe whatever they want to.

[Ianamus]

Elegana wrote...

Sorry if this ends up as a wall of text, but I want to give my thoughts:

1) While I have spoiled myself with parts of the leaked script, information from the Space Edition guy, and Tank, I still have doubts. For one thing, the Space Edition guy started off completely with "NDA! NDA! But I'll tell you about gameplay", but later on, he laxed on the NDA because we were asking a lot about things that happened in the script and he ended up talking more on it. He also "pulled" the files from his 360 and then uploaded it to his PC (in a very short amount of time, IMO), and said: "There is no surprise 7th ending". This contradicts what the supposed strategy guide says.

2) Like I've said in other threads, this could have been an elaborate scheme from EA/BioWare where they get devs or people to go along with the leaked info and say "Hey, I got space edition!" and just follow along. They cause uproar and what not, but when people play the game, they see that the script is the same, but the endings are far different. It could also be a scheme where the endings are true, causing fans to complain and wanting a DLC, in which EA/Bioware does, giving them more money while fans get their endings.

3) Something doesn't add up. The supposed "flashback" was leaked by the guy on SA forums. Originally, he said "Hackett" is the one that appears, not Anderson. Then the space edition guy says "Anderson" appears, not Hackett. SA forum guy then changes it, saying "Yes, I was mistaken. It was Anderson", leaving me with an assumption: SA guy and Space Edition guy are both devs/paid "actors" and are both going off the leaked script. However, SA guy said one thing and the Space Edition guy said the other, which then SA guy went with Space Edition guy.

This is all theory and speculation, and like others have said, we won't know the truth until game day. Until then, people are going to believe whatever they want to.

But why would Bioware want to put people off getting the game? If there is a seventh ending and all that then it's more likely that he/she just didn't make the right choices to get the "mystery" ending, or a better ending. 

I can see why they released that statement saying "The ending will leave some players unhappy" but it really should have been "The ending will leave almost every player unhappy" if this is the case.

Modifié par EJ107, 28 février 2012 - 10:35 .

[CerberusSoldier]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

I am actually okay with this. The perfect response to all the ****ing & whining on BSN

   


Oh whining please you accept Bioware's bull S then fine what ever . But hell no there is no way they are getting a free pass on this . 

[DiegoProgMetal]

The whole problem is. IF these endings are real, which I HOPE NOT, it doesn't matter a single piece of c*ap what you do during the 3 games. You can just forget your saves from the last games and start straight into ME3 and choose whatever option in the dialogues, do whatever the he** you want, the endings will most likely be the same: Shepard dies to save the world. Then the credits rolls with "I don't wanna miss a thing" from Aerosmith. It's not just a bad ending for Shepard and crew no matter what, it's bad to the point that everything was just railroaded into the same cr***y endings. And for those saying that "at least Shepard saved the galaxy", the same guys that spread these "ending rumours" THAT I REALLY HOPE ARE JUST A STUPID TROLL ATEMPT, said that in the epilogue, no matter what option you take, you'll just delay the technological singularity, even in the "merge/synergy" ending.
BUT, there are lot's of holes in those rumours. Some things contradicts others, so I just hope it's all bull****.

[RiouHotaru]

Elegana wrote...

Sorry if this ends up as a wall of text, but I want to give my thoughts:

1) While I have spoiled myself with parts of the leaked script, information from the Space Edition guy, and Tank, I still have doubts. For one thing, the Space Edition guy started off completely with "NDA! NDA! But I'll tell you about gameplay", but later on, he laxed on the NDA because we were asking a lot about things that happened in the script and he ended up talking more on it. He also "pulled" the files from his 360 and then uploaded it to his PC (in a very short amount of time, IMO), and said: "There is no surprise 7th ending". This contradicts what the supposed strategy guide says.

2) Like I've said in other threads, this could have been an elaborate scheme from EA/BioWare where they get devs or people to go along with the leaked info and say "Hey, I got space edition!" and just follow along. They cause uproar and what not, but when people play the game, they see that the script is the same, but the endings are far different. It could also be a scheme where the endings are true, causing fans to complain and wanting a DLC, in which EA/Bioware does, giving them more money while fans get their endings.

3) Something doesn't add up. The supposed "flashback" was leaked by the guy on SA forums. Originally, he said "Hackett" is the one that appears, not Anderson. Then the space edition guy says "Anderson" appears, not Hackett. SA forum guy then changes it, saying "Yes, I was mistaken. It was Anderson", leaving me with an assumption: SA guy and Space Edition guy are both devs/paid "actors" and are both going off the leaked script. However, SA guy said one thing and the Space Edition guy said the other, which then SA guy went with Space Edition guy.

This is all theory and speculation, and like others have said, we won't know the truth until game day. Until then, people are going to believe whatever they want to.

...Surprise seventh ending?  But there's only six endings, that was confirmed by an interview, so that's not wrong.

And yeah, the weird behavior of Tank and the guy who has the space edition leads me to believe something weird is going on.

[scotkrow]

Elegana wrote...

Sorry if this ends up as a wall of text, but I want to give my thoughts:

1) While I have spoiled myself with parts of the leaked script, information from the Space Edition guy, and Tank, I still have doubts. For one thing, the Space Edition guy started off completely with "NDA! NDA! But I'll tell you about gameplay", but later on, he laxed on the NDA because we were asking a lot about things that happened in the script and he ended up talking more on it. He also "pulled" the files from his 360 and then uploaded it to his PC (in a very short amount of time, IMO), and said: "There is no surprise 7th ending". This contradicts what the supposed strategy guide says.

2) Like I've said in other threads, this could have been an elaborate scheme from EA/BioWare where they get devs or people to go along with the leaked info and say "Hey, I got space edition!" and just follow along. They cause uproar and what not, but when people play the game, they see that the script is the same, but the endings are far different. It could also be a scheme where the endings are true, causing fans to complain and wanting a DLC, in which EA/Bioware does, giving them more money while fans get their endings.

3) Something doesn't add up. The supposed "flashback" was leaked by the guy on SA forums. Originally, he said "Hackett" is the one that appears, not Anderson. Then the space edition guy says "Anderson" appears, not Hackett. SA forum guy then changes it, saying "Yes, I was mistaken. It was Anderson", leaving me with an assumption: SA guy and Space Edition guy are both devs/paid "actors" and are both going off the leaked script. However, SA guy said one thing and the Space Edition guy said the other, which then SA guy went with Space Edition guy.

This is all theory and speculation, and like others have said, we won't know the truth until game day. Until then, people are going to believe whatever they want to.

Love!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Here is the thing. I'm fine with having depressing endings, if I'm going for one. Bioware kept saying that you get to choose all your decisions and form your ending at whatnot. That's what attracted me to the trilogy. I was absolutely fine when they said that all of Shepard's crew could die if you went hurpa durpastan because that was my choice to do so. But, if I try to aim for the best possible ending there is, and the only possible endings you'll get are either getting yourself boned with the rest of the galaxy, or getting your crew boned with the rest of the galaxy. Well, that's almost like the equivalent of being part of a table top RP and having the GM say "Rocks fall everyone dies. Ciao!"

It's a bit dumb if that's the depressing ending they were going for. Because if you think about it you can still have Shepard and crew stay alive and save the galaxy, but have the immediate future look incredibly bleak. The reapers came in and killed possibly billions of people and destroyed many colonies. Husks are still most likely running about, people are displaced, families are lost, societies were majorly altered for the worst, some technology is probably lost, and crime in general and anarchy are probably at a all time high. This would leave so much more freedom to create more games and books but still have that "closure" to the Shepard vs Reapers trilogy. I actually really hope there is something close to that in the game.

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 28 février 2012 - 10:37 .

[eye basher]

You know what would ****** me off if they gave me some lame fairy tail ending were everything is ****** dorey sunshine and rainbows that's been overdone.

[Hyrist]

Huyna wrote...
Drakengard 1 was a first installment of the series.

Lost me there. Drakenguard 2 was incredibly poor compaired to it's first iteration, and the abandonment of the 'series' was an indication of that. At best, Drakenguard 2 was a cheap exploitation of the cult fame of 1, and appealed to the opposite audiance to boot.

Yes, there was some good moments in 2, but that was the extent of it.


Mass Effect creates a drama and threat on the scale beyond the 'happy ending'. Something was going to end poorly and I'm glad each ended with a consequence the player would not like.

Up until the ending was leaked, this very community was complaining that the only way to win the war was to be some Deus Ex Machina that would seem to be a shallow victory.

Now that they find out that the specific method actually comes with Galatic consequences and pretty much robs the player of their covented 'happy ending', their complaints have completely reversed.

This proves the 'never statasfied, never happy' trope that plagues communities such as these. You list other games that have no weight on ME, but you list Hawke's mother's death as something 'you wish you could have changed'. That scene, being one without choice, was actually a GOOD scene, because it took choice away from the player, reminded them they were in a limited space  for choice- that they were not god.

I completely dissagree that fiction that features choice should be all about choice and nothing else. Just because it is a game with choices does not mean you're fully entitled to being god.

If anything, the source of this uproar is not being able to have an ending that allows their Shep to be with their LI, and people are making every excuse and accusation possible because they want that one thing.

[Elegana]

EJ107 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Sorry if this ends up as a wall of text, but I want to give my thoughts:

1) While I have spoiled myself with parts of the leaked script, information from the Space Edition guy, and Tank, I still have doubts. For one thing, the Space Edition guy started off completely with "NDA! NDA! But I'll tell you about gameplay", but later on, he laxed on the NDA because we were asking a lot about things that happened in the script and he ended up talking more on it. He also "pulled" the files from his 360 and then uploaded it to his PC (in a very short amount of time, IMO), and said: "There is no surprise 7th ending". This contradicts what the supposed strategy guide says.

2) Like I've said in other threads, this could have been an elaborate scheme from EA/BioWare where they get devs or people to go along with the leaked info and say "Hey, I got space edition!" and just follow along. They cause uproar and what not, but when people play the game, they see that the script is the same, but the endings are far different. It could also be a scheme where the endings are true, causing fans to complain and wanting a DLC, in which EA/Bioware does, giving them more money while fans get their endings.

3) Something doesn't add up. The supposed "flashback" was leaked by the guy on SA forums. Originally, he said "Hackett" is the one that appears, not Anderson. Then the space edition guy says "Anderson" appears, not Hackett. SA forum guy then changes it, saying "Yes, I was mistaken. It was Anderson", leaving me with an assumption: SA guy and Space Edition guy are both devs/paid "actors" and are both going off the leaked script. However, SA guy said one thing and the Space Edition guy said the other, which then SA guy went with Space Edition guy.

This is all theory and speculation, and like others have said, we won't know the truth until game day. Until then, people are going to believe whatever they want to.

But why would Bioware want to put people off getting the game? If there is a seventh ending and all that then it's more likely that he/she just didn't make the right choices to get the "mystery" ending, or a better ending. 

I can see why they released that statement saying "The ending will leave some players unhappy" but it really should have been "The ending will leave almost every player unhappy" if this is the case.

It would be a huge risk, I know. But do we really have evidence of people "cancelling their pre-orders"? Perhaps Bioware published the leaked script for free critism and then take the critism to improve the game. Maybe they did to hype the game, seeing how some people get even more excited to play the game after reading the script. With the endings, they could have purposely created them, knowing people will not be happy, knowing that they'll complain and demand for a DLC. So if the masses want the DLC, Bioware can price it at $X and earn extra revenue. 

Like I said, I'm going off from speculation with a mix of knowledge of business tactics. 

[Mims]

I'm fine with depressing endings. I just don't get why all three endings have the same epilogue, more or less negating everything that might be salvageable.

And shipwrecking the Normandy crew on some far off planet is just needlessly kick the dog. They could have just been on earth. The only reason they aren't is for the epilogue and to ensure they "survive".

[...wait, how does the epilogue work if no one comes out of the hatch? /headhold]

[Elegana]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Sorry if this ends up as a wall of text, but I want to give my thoughts:

1) While I have spoiled myself with parts of the leaked script, information from the Space Edition guy, and Tank, I still have doubts. For one thing, the Space Edition guy started off completely with "NDA! NDA! But I'll tell you about gameplay", but later on, he laxed on the NDA because we were asking a lot about things that happened in the script and he ended up talking more on it. He also "pulled" the files from his 360 and then uploaded it to his PC (in a very short amount of time, IMO), and said: "There is no surprise 7th ending". This contradicts what the supposed strategy guide says.

2) Like I've said in other threads, this could have been an elaborate scheme from EA/BioWare where they get devs or people to go along with the leaked info and say "Hey, I got space edition!" and just follow along. They cause uproar and what not, but when people play the game, they see that the script is the same, but the endings are far different. It could also be a scheme where the endings are true, causing fans to complain and wanting a DLC, in which EA/Bioware does, giving them more money while fans get their endings.

3) Something doesn't add up. The supposed "flashback" was leaked by the guy on SA forums. Originally, he said "Hackett" is the one that appears, not Anderson. Then the space edition guy says "Anderson" appears, not Hackett. SA forum guy then changes it, saying "Yes, I was mistaken. It was Anderson", leaving me with an assumption: SA guy and Space Edition guy are both devs/paid "actors" and are both going off the leaked script. However, SA guy said one thing and the Space Edition guy said the other, which then SA guy went with Space Edition guy.

This is all theory and speculation, and like others have said, we won't know the truth until game day. Until then, people are going to believe whatever they want to.

...Surprise seventh ending?  But there's only six endings, that was confirmed by an interview, so that's not wrong.

And yeah, the weird behavior of Tank and the guy who has the space edition leads me to believe something weird is going on.

According to the Prima Strategy guy, there was "surprise" ending (thus it's a 7th ending). 

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Mims wrote...

[...wait, how does the epilogue work if no one comes out of the hatch? /headhold]

Narration from Morgan Freeman?

[CerberusSoldier]

Lancer2185 wrote...

i have to agree with the people saying, wait untill you play the game to find out the best endings because honestly this does not make sense. we were told that (like me2) we would be able to keep playing the game after the credits roll to finish up any left over quests or romance plots.(assuming shepard lives of course).

   


If its fake come out and tell us Bioware but oh thats right they lock threads instead . no its real 

[Elegana]

OH, I totally forgot about #4 on my list, guys!

4) Casey Hudson said we are able to play ME3 post-game... which doesn't make ANY sense. How can Shepard and his crew fly around the galaxy when Shepard is either dead or on a war-strucken Earth and the Normandy crash landed on a moon and colonized? It doesn't add up.

[Sashimi_taco]

I wish a bioware rep would just say if these are not real.

[JamieCOTC]

adneate wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...
However, to me, Shepard being without at least part of her squad in the end (and her squad being relegated to some intergalactic backwater, where they may or may not be able to survive) seems like a kick in the teeth for the sake of kicking teeth and that's what annoys me the most about these endings.

Which is my problem as well, I'm fine with this being a war where even the victory kinda feels like defeat but to take all the characters we've spent countless hours forming some kinda of connection with so that we like them as characters and just fling them out into space for no reason strikes me as cheap crappy writing by a bunch of people trying to beat an emotion out of their audience with a blunt object.

Actually, it seems like they are a little too much in love w/ BSG. 

[scotkrow]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Lancer2185 wrote...

i have to agree with the people saying, wait untill you play the game to find out the best endings because honestly this does not make sense. we were told that (like me2) we would be able to keep playing the game after the credits roll to finish up any left over quests or romance plots.(assuming shepard lives of course).

   


If its fake come out and tell us Bioware but oh thats right they lock threads instead . no its real 

Maybe they're getting a kick out of how stupid most people in this thread are being.

[M4N0FF4I7H]

The Prima Strategy guy was probably misleading people, he also stated that you could romance up to 10/11 people in mass effect 3.

[JamieCOTC]

Elegana wrote...

OH, I totally forgot about #4 on my list, guys!

4) Casey Hudson said we are able to play ME3 post-game... which doesn't make ANY sense. How can Shepard and his crew fly around the galaxy when Shepard is either dead or on a war-strucken Earth and the Normandy crash landed on a moon and colonized? It doesn't add up.

DA:Origins style. You can keep playing, but it all happen prior to big ending. You're playing in the past.  Oddly enough, I liked it as it gave a sort of Twilight Zone feel to the whole game, espacially if the Warden died.

[scotkrow]

BornFree87 wrote...

The Prima Strategy guy was probably misleading people, he also stated that you could romance up to 10/11 people in mass effect 3.

In other words all of this is a crock.

[Elegana]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Elegana wrote...

OH, I totally forgot about #4 on my list, guys!

4) Casey Hudson said we are able to play ME3 post-game... which doesn't make ANY sense. How can Shepard and his crew fly around the galaxy when Shepard is either dead or on a war-strucken Earth and the Normandy crash landed on a moon and colonized? It doesn't add up.

DA:Origins style. You can keep playing, but it all happen prior to big ending. You're playing in the past.  Oddly enough, I liked it as it gave a sort of Twilight Zone feel to the whole game, espacially if the Warden died.

Now that explains it.

[M4N0FF4I7H]

scotkrow wrote...

BornFree87 wrote...

The Prima Strategy guy was probably misleading people, he also stated that you could romance up to 10/11 people in mass effect 3.

In other words all of this is a crock.

No, it just means the prima strategy guy was a crock.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

Someone should just ask one of the devs to confirm if there is truth to this stuff or not.

[scotkrow]

BornFree87 wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

BornFree87 wrote...

The Prima Strategy guy was probably misleading people, he also stated that you could romance up to 10/11 people in mass effect 3.

In other words all of this is a crock.

No, it just means the prima strategy guy was a crock.

No matter what this is, everyone should withhold judgement until they play, don't believe leaks that could be orcistrated falsehoods until they are without a doubt confirmed with video, screenshots and masses of fans.