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[schwarzaj]

Computim wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

I gave it a 8 before the ending and a 5 with the ending.Time for shower and bed.Night all and hold the line/wallet.

10/10 before the ending, 1 out of 10 for the ending, had to give it a 4/10 total based on the fact it wasn't 'okay' based off their scale..

It just hit me again that they completely BLEW the franchise in 5 minutes because they rushed it out the door... If I were Bioware I'd be so upset at EA right now... they killed their reputation, irrepairably with some people in 5 minutes... and for a game that most would have called one of the best series' on the Xbox 360 up until that last 5 minutes... that's sad...really sad.

I feel the same way. Every time I look at ME, I just think to myself "God, why..." and get depressed:(.

I just...

Hold the line!

[TamiBx]

Computim wrote...

Well I went into this an unapologetic fanboy.. so this had that going for it right from the start, it was amazing up to that point.. Conrad Vernier pushed me to best game ever just because, at the time, the minor character there actually had an impact, a hilarious, amazing, wow impact that really was only war assets.. but the fact they gave it time just amazed me.  I didn't think the UPS quests were that bad... mind you I spent most of ME2 probing planets to the point some of them got restraining orders against me.

I didn't really like the holographic farewells there... it felt like "you weren't good enough to have us actually show up for you despite this being the culmination of everything you've spent the last 3 games doing.. but hey, we send our regards" sorta thing.

Ahm, obsessed fangirl over here? 

I swear all I did ever since the release date was announced was countdown to it.

I hated scanning planets in ME2. Thank god everything carries over when you import your character for a NG+. 

Holographic farewells? I couldn't care less about my ME2 crew 


Ok, except Grunt. I guess Jack is...ok. And Miranda won me over later. Everyone else I cared about was dead (Thane, Legion, Mordin), so...  (kind of wish I could kill Jacob...)

Plus by the time I got to them, I was too sad over Kaidan farewell that I didn't even care what they said; depression over the horrible ending had took over me....(since, you know, I knew what they were going to be)

[PeterG1]

sagevallant wrote...

http://www.cinemable...cdewWPN.twitter

Great article. I think the best stanza is:

cinemablend wrote...

If you know where the money is going, and how development is evolving it's a lot harder to get pissed at the final product when you get an idea of how far along the game is. I'm pretty sure if fans knew that Mass Effect 3[/i] wasn't properly ready to ship and the ending wasn't in place, I can't imagine gamers saying "Ship it anyways!" most people this gen have come to terms with accepting delays if it means a better overall experience and a more polished product. However, big publishers don't ever give us that kind of insight unless the press push for it.

This is something that I think if BioWare just told us about it. Just said "yes, sorry we shipped a bit too early" or "no we really did ship ontime and we were all happy with the product" we'd be placated in some ways. Why not? We're a community here we can handle it, go ahead and tell us!

Modifié par PeterG1, 01 mai 2012 - 04:21 .

[Computim]

TamiBx wrote...
Ahm, obsessed fangirl over here? 

I swear all I did ever since the release date was announced was countdown to it.

I hated scanning planets in ME2. Thank god everything carries over when you import your character for a NG+. 

Holographic farewells? I couldn't care less about my ME2 crew 


Ok, except Grunt. I guess Jack is...ok. And Miranda won me over later. Everyone else I cared about was dead (Thane, Legion, Mordin), so...  (kind of wish I could kill Jacob...)

Plus by the time I got to them, I was too sad over Kaidan farewell that I didn't even care what they said; depression over the horrible ending had took over me....(since, you know, I knew what they were going to be)

Haha, I went with Liara, Miranda, Liara... in my main playthrough, so I never saw half the other stuff... I suspect that's part of it though, they obviously went with whomever most with with statistically to ensure they got the most out of the game... really I would have been okay waiting another year for them to actually give everyone else their stories.. but I didn't notice the lack because I went with the same characters, just different choices for my LIs... I suspect if I'd picked Thane it might have been a lot worse.. 

Anywho I need to head to bed.  Hold the line, nite 

[g_bassi13]

Missy_MI wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...
The game was too short, and yet incredibly padded still. There were no real side quests, no exploration, nothing. A
few great moments do not a great game make, imo.

On one hand, I understand it would have felt weird to run off exploring when the galaxy is at stake, every minute thousands of beings die and all that.

There are a few wonderous moments seeing the Tuchanka ruins of old, but almost everything else is or quickly becomes rubble. From a practical story perspective I get it, but selfishly I really missed more in-depth exploration too.

And... (sorry it's late and I'm rambling too much) it's also why suddenly losing the Citadel made me far more upset than losing Earth ever could. I've spent hundreds of hours wandering around the Citadel, it felt like Shepard's home. Yes, watching kids in sunflower fields or clasping miniature Normandy ships get ganked by Reapers is not good, but thinking about Bailey, already wounded, fighting off waves of husks is worse. Yeah, I'm an awful person.

Losing the citadel should've had an impact, but it was so poorly, and so suddenly implemented that it made no sense.

As for exploring while the galaxy is turmoil, I agree that done poorly it doens't make much sense. But that's exactly what happened here with this game. Spending time getting banners and books as the everything is going to ****. It was padding, and nothing more. They could've given us a reason to go around and properly do things, but we didn't get that. 

The whole game actually lost me on the element of the Reapers. Towards the end I was just like "Oh yeah, Reapers. I forgot they were in this game. Wasn't earth invaded by them or something? I forget. Maybe we should get somebody on that. I'm to busy running around the Citadel trying to find someone to eavesdrop on."

[TamiBx]

Computim wrote...

Haha, I went with Liara, Miranda, Liara... in my main playthrough, so I never saw half the other stuff... I suspect that's part of it though, they obviously went with whomever most with with statistically to ensure they got the most out of the game... really I would have been okay waiting another year for them to actually give everyone else their stories.. but I didn't notice the lack because I went with the same characters, just different choices for my LIs... I suspect if I'd picked Thane it might have been a lot worse.. 

Anywho I need to head to bed.  Hold the line, nite 

I would only pick Kaidan anyways, so whatever? 


Haha, sleep, yeah...haven't had any lately. Well, I'm going back to study. Keep holding the line~ 

[sagevallant]

PeterG1 wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

http://www.cinemable...cdewWPN.twitter

Great article. I think the best stanza is:

cinemablend wrote...

If you know where the money is going, and how development is evolving it's a lot harder to get pissed at the final product when you get an idea of how far along the game is. I'm pretty sure if fans knew that Mass Effect 3[/i] wasn't properly ready to ship and the ending wasn't in place, I can't imagine gamers saying "Ship it anyways!" most people this gen have come to terms with accepting delays if it means a better overall experience and a more polished product. However, big publishers don't ever give us that kind of insight unless the press push for it.

This is something that I think if BioWare just told us about it. Just said "yes, sorry we shipped a bit too early" or "no we really did ship ontime and we were all happy with the product" we'd be placated in some ways. Why not? We're a community here we can handle it, go ahead and tell us!

There was an article that suggested that, for all it's profits, EA is spending WAAAAY more money than Activision. Boasting big profits while neglecting to mention costs. That they might be a little less than financially sound. I wouldn't be surprised if they were hoping ME3 would make their numbers for the quarter look better.

Disturbing rumors.

[sagevallant]

g_bassi13 wrote...

Losing the citadel should've had an impact, but it was so poorly, and so suddenly implemented that it made no sense.

As for exploring while the galaxy is turmoil, I agree that done poorly it doens't make much sense. But that's exactly what happened here with this game. Spending time getting banners and books as the everything is going to ****. It was padding, and nothing more. They could've given us a reason to go around and properly do things, but we didn't get that. 

The whole game actually lost me on the element of the Reapers. Towards the end I was just like "Oh yeah, Reapers. I forgot they were in this game. Wasn't earth invaded by them or something? I forget. Maybe we should get somebody on that. I'm to busy running around the Citadel trying to find someone to eavesdrop on."

"Man, that's a big starship. I wonder how many Marauders it takes to pilot it?
...
...
...
... wait. Wait, I know what that is."

[Kyria Nyriese]

sagevallant wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

Losing the citadel should've had an impact, but it was so poorly, and so suddenly implemented that it made no sense.

As for exploring while the galaxy is turmoil, I agree that done poorly it doens't make much sense. But that's exactly what happened here with this game. Spending time getting banners and books as the everything is going to ****. It was padding, and nothing more. They could've given us a reason to go around and properly do things, but we didn't get that. 

The whole game actually lost me on the element of the Reapers. Towards the end I was just like "Oh yeah, Reapers. I forgot they were in this game. Wasn't earth invaded by them or something? I forget. Maybe we should get somebody on that. I'm to busy running around the Citadel trying to find someone to eavesdrop on."

"Man, that's a big starship. I wonder how many Marauders it takes to pilot it?
...
...
...
... wait. Wait, I know what that is."

I think that turned out to be a common thought among people.   I mean who were the actual bad guys in this game?  The Reapers and Star Demon or Cerberus and TIM?  We may never know.  

*edit grammer... it's late and I'm tired... leave me alone

Modifié par Kyria Nyriese, 01 mai 2012 - 05:26 .

[FOX216BC]

 Probably already posted.
Mark Meer's short answer on ME3 ending.

[Phoenix NL]

DJBare wrote...

Sorry guys, been off exploring the rest of the forum, it's really quite interesting out there, I'd almost forgotten there was more than this thread.

Anyway, have a listen to this, just tell me what you hear, no need for discussion, I'd just like to hear how you interpret the audio?

www.youtube.com/watch

Hours late I know, but to me this sounds like the Shadow Broker ship when the lightening is hitting the plates. Or the bit at the end on the Citadel walking to find Anderson.

[GroverA125]

Hang on a second, I just noticed there's now a Bioware tag on this thread. When did this happen?

Also, make sure to do the new feedback survey that has been provided to us.

[Phoenix NL]

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[Goodwood]

GroverA125 wrote...

Hang on a second, I just noticed there's now a Bioware tag on this thread. When did this happen?

Also, make sure to do the new feedback survey that has been provided to us.

Nothing to be concerned about; it was Alan Schumacher or whatever his name, IIRC he's on the Dragon Age team or whatever. He just came in responding to some interp for the ending DLC and such.

[Phoenix NL]

FOX216BC wrote...

 Probably already posted.
Mark Meer's short answer on ME3 ending.

Hadn't seen that one. Good response from Mr. Meer!

[Phoenix NL]

Goodwood wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Hang on a second, I just noticed there's now a Bioware tag on this thread. When did this happen?

Also, make sure to do the new feedback survey that has been provided to us.

Nothing to be concerned about; it was Alan Schumacher or whatever his name, IIRC he's on the Dragon Age team or whatever. He just came in responding to some interp for the ending DLC and such.

He comes onto the forum in his spare time and just likes to chat with people and take part in discussions.

[Kyria Nyriese]

Phoenix HUG ATTACK

[GroverA125]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Hang on a second, I just noticed there's now a Bioware tag on this thread. When did this happen?

Also, make sure to do the new feedback survey that has been provided to us.

Nothing to be concerned about; it was Alan Schumacher or whatever his name, IIRC he's on the Dragon Age team or whatever. He just came in responding to some interp for the ending DLC and such.

He comes onto the forum in his spare time and just likes to chat with people and take part in discussions.

And what page was that on? Just the general number will do.

Modifié par GroverA125, 01 mai 2012 - 06:43 .

[Kyria Nyriese]

GroverA125 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Hang on a second, I just noticed there's now a Bioware tag on this thread. When did this happen?

Also, make sure to do the new feedback survey that has been provided to us.

Nothing to be concerned about; it was Alan Schumacher or whatever his name, IIRC he's on the Dragon Age team or whatever. He just came in responding to some interp for the ending DLC and such.

He comes onto the forum in his spare time and just likes to chat with people and take part in discussions.

And what page was that on? Just the general number will do.

Between 3650 and 3700 I THINK.

[GuardianAngel470]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Hang on a second, I just noticed there's now a Bioware tag on this thread. When did this happen?

Also, make sure to do the new feedback survey that has been provided to us.

Nothing to be concerned about; it was Alan Schumacher or whatever his name, IIRC he's on the Dragon Age team or whatever. He just came in responding to some interp for the ending DLC and such.

He comes onto the forum in his spare time and just likes to chat with people and take part in discussions.

And what page was that on? Just the general number will do.

Between 3650 and 3700 I THINK.

Just click on the tag, it will shorten the whole thread to just the OP and Bioware's responses.

[Nharia1]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Phoenix HUG ATTACK

*ninja intercepts* Fwhoosh~!

[Kyria Nyriese]

Nharia1 wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Phoenix HUG ATTACK

*ninja intercepts* Fwhoosh~!

HUG ATTACK Nharia 

[Phoenix NL]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Phoenix HUG ATTACK

*runs towards Kyria for double HUG ATTACK*

[GuardianAngel470]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
Haha, it is a very long thread to follow. I probably ignored about 1000 pages or so. Maybe more. It is always good to see that Bioware isn't ignoring this thread (even if you are from the DA team). 
But everytime I come back and see a Bioware sign on this thread, I can't help but think we are in trouble..

At over 3600+ pages, the only way I could see anyone getting in trouble is if they started ostensibly violating forum rules.  Which no one ever appears to be doing in this thread.  For the most part it reads like it's people meeting up for a daily coffee.

Well technically Allan that is violating the rules. But a moderator would have to be stupid to enforce that rule and that rule only on this particular thread. It's the support group for the entire forum and would ****** way too many people off. It might even make the news.

However apparent immunity should not be abused so I'll remind this thread again to try and avoid frivolous discussions in the interests of self-preservation.

[Goodwood]

HUG ATTACK Nhari, Phoenix and Kyria!!