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Karrie788

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Does Joker really leave for the Charon relay to flee because he thinks the plan failed, or is he actually trying to achieve something? Fleeing would be completely out of character for him. He's the guy who stayed in the Normandy SR1, hoping to save her, when she was literally destroyed!

That's something I'd really like to know in context. It makes no sense so far.

   


Yes he does leave and it is something the player can not change . No matter what ending we chose


Sorry, I was actually asking why he's leaving.

   



he leaves thinking Shepard is dead and the plan has failed .


So basically, he flees.

What. :blink:

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is there an at least somewhat reliable overview where every piece of possible evidence about the endings is included? it's hopeless trying to find out the facts anymore.


Pretty much everything known has been presented in this group: 
http://social.bioware.com/group/5245/ 

Whether or not you choose to believe it as fact or reliable is up to you.


alright, cheers.

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Karrie788 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Does Joker really leave for the Charon relay to flee because he thinks the plan failed, or is he actually trying to achieve something? Fleeing would be completely out of character for him. He's the guy who stayed in the Normandy SR1, hoping to save her, when she was literally destroyed!

That's something I'd really like to know in context. It makes no sense so far.

   


Yes he does leave and it is something the player can not change . No matter what ending we chose


Sorry, I was actually asking why he's leaving.



Maybe (and I am sure I'm wrong) Joker planned on going back but after what happened to the relays he had no choice but to escape as it looked as if the aftermath of the relay incident was becoming a vacuum of sorts. according to the leaked endings.

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Karrie788 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Does Joker really leave for the Charon relay to flee because he thinks the plan failed, or is he actually trying to achieve something? Fleeing would be completely out of character for him. He's the guy who stayed in the Normandy SR1, hoping to save her, when she was literally destroyed!

That's something I'd really like to know in context. It makes no sense so far.

   


Yes he does leave and it is something the player can not change . No matter what ending we chose


Sorry, I was actually asking why he's leaving.

   



he leaves thinking Shepard is dead and the plan has failed .


So basically, he flees.

What. :blink:

   




yeah it is confusing and I am not sure if the game explains it or not

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Bionic Weapon wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Does Joker really leave for the Charon relay to flee because he thinks the plan failed, or is he actually trying to achieve something? Fleeing would be completely out of character for him. He's the guy who stayed in the Normandy SR1, hoping to save her, when she was literally destroyed!

That's something I'd really like to know in context. It makes no sense so far.

   


Yes he does leave and it is something the player can not change . No matter what ending we chose


Sorry, I was actually asking why he's leaving.



Maybe (and I am sure I'm wrong) Joker planned on going back but after what happened to the relays he had no choice but to escape as it looked as if the aftermath of the relay incident was becoming a vacuum of sorts. according to the leaked endings.

   



when the relays explode he can not come back. even if he wanted to

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Joker was like....sorry shep...i love you man , but i have little cyborgs to make, and have you seen edi's body? come on bro.....give me this.

Shepard is like.....i should have never saved your crippled ass.

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Come on guys BW pulled the dead Sheppard stunt in ME2 - that's getting really, really old and tired. I just wondered why Joker didn't just slip into FTL and escape. Maybe even go straight up and over the dam Collector ship - any number of escape plans. And Joker claimed to be the very best pilot - hell any fighter pilot flying today knows better than to stay in the enemy gun position or you're one dead fighter pilot.

Buttons and Christmas tree lights? Cut scenes with pointless endings? They had to be high on crack to write this idiocy!

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People who get the guides on day 1 will be able to confirm the endings (It only costs $16 from amazon and will probably be better than the wiki and forums). The guides will probably get delivered Monday knowing Amazon (The guides should be legit and I doubt there will be any bull**** in prima guides)

Modifié par kingsims, 03 mars 2012 - 09:15 .


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hey guys, in the destroy ending, if you meet the criteria, Shepard lives. How would that be possible if the relays explode like they do in arrival?

Makes me think they do not explode but are destroyed another way.

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kingsims wrote...

People who get the guides on day 1 will be able to confirm the endings (It only costs $16 from amazon and will probably be better than the wiki and forums). The guides will probably get delivered Monday knowing Amazon (The guides should be legit and I doubt there will be any bull**** in prima guides)


Scans of the guide already exist, and the files of the game have been data mined. 

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hey guys, in the destroy ending, if you meet the criteria, Shepard lives. How would that be possible if the relays explode like they do in arrival?

Makes me think they do not explode but are destroyed another way.


It's a function of the magic space button.

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According to the leaked guide if Anderson dies. Shepard lives. Don't ask me how its space magic.

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xtorma wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

hey guys, in the destroy ending, if you meet the criteria, Shepard lives. How would that be possible if the relays explode like they do in arrival?

Makes me think they do not explode but are destroyed another way.


It's a function of the magic space button.


see, that makes no sense, neither does the anderson thing, if the relays explode like they do in Arrival, then the reapers win by default, as Galactic life is mostly dead, and will continue to die till all life is wiped out.

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curelightwounds wrote...

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if we can destroy the reapers with a button ,it's not that much of a stretch to be saved by a fish.....it could team up with blasto!


Now playing on Illium: Blasto in Culling the Herd

Council member: Blasto, we have a special mission for you
Blasto: This one is ready as always
Council member: Of course, but last mission you went too far. This time we're sending a special observer with you.
Blasto: This one does like to be overseen. This one works alone.
Council member: Well that's too bad, Blasto. The decision has been made

*door hiss*

Shepherd: So whose ass do I need to kick this time
Blasto: Shepherd -- this one was not expecting to see you so soon
Shepherd: You jelly?


Blasto in Culling the Herd

Coming soon


Ok completely off topic, but I want a Shepard/Blasto spectre game or movie now. It would be so epic. The elcor spectre could make a surprise entrance too.

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GBGriffin

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draken-heart wrote...


see, that makes no sense, neither does the anderson thing, if the relays explode like they do in Arrival, then the reapers win by default, as Galactic life is mostly dead, and will continue to die till all life is wiped out.


From what I've gathered, it's not the same kind of explosion...or it could very well be that they just didn't think it through :P

To me, it looks like the energy is dispersed and sent on before the relay is destroyed, which implies it relases a different kind of energy or the explosion just isn't as powerful because the bulk of the energy has already been sent ahead to the next relay.

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Karrie788 wrote...

xtorma wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

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So, has someone debunked the Strategy-Guide guy in the past 20 pages or so because we've all gone back to assuming there are no other endings?

His stuff looks very solid and his photos are definately NOT photoshopped. The cover of that guide is real. I wondered from time to time why the two huge aquarium in Sheppard's quarters. I also wondered why that particular fish was so expensive to the other fish. And I wondered why that particular fish was listed as a war asset.


I still can't believe we could be saved by a fish. :mellow:
It would be hilarious though.


if we can destroy the reapers with a button ,it's not that much of a stretch to be saved by a fish.....it could team up with blasto!


:lol:

In all seriousness, I don't think it will give us a new special ending, I'm pretty sure it'll be an easter egg or something.


I will appoligise to Bioware personally for jumping to conclusions if it is the case. But at this point, I've accepted the reality.

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Wait... someone correct me if I'm wrong -- the leaked video and the leaked Prima guide corroborate each other right?

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i guess Shepard really is Captain Kirk, he saves the galaxy, bones some aliens and dies alone

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Rakia Time wrote...

i guess Shepard really is Captain Kirk, he saves the galaxy, bones some aliens and dies alone


wasn't picard with him when he finally croaked? or are you counting his death in the cargohold of the ship as his actual death.

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xtorma wrote...

Rakia Time wrote...

i guess Shepard really is Captain Kirk, he saves the galaxy, bones some aliens and dies alone


wasn't picard with him when he finally croaked? or are you counting his death in the cargohold of the ship as his actual death.


Haha, I was totally about to comment on Picard being there :P Even that has a happier ending than this.

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All signs point to yes, curelightwounds. These endings are the real deal. I'm still hoping against hope that the space copies have been neutered and that we're not getting the complete picture, but I know that's not true and it makes me sadface.

Such a shame. Most of the rest of this game looks amazing. I'm not too thrilled about how the ME2 squad members got shafted, but these endings are just unforgivable.

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All signs point to yes, curelightwounds. These endings are the real deal. I'm still hoping against hope that the space copies have been neutered and that we're not getting the complete picture, but I know that's not true and it makes me sadface.

Such a shame. Most of the rest of this game looks amazing. I'm not too thrilled about how the ME2 squad members got shafted, but these endings are just unforgivable.


Really, I think the endings have a great majority of people upset, and that's not even taking into account what happens to the crew during the course of the actual game, with cameos and Zaeed-level dialogue.

There just seems to be a lot that went wrong that could have been handled/written/designed so much better, and that's not even talking about the endings.

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GBGriffin wrote...

xtorma wrote...

Rakia Time wrote...

i guess Shepard really is Captain Kirk, he saves the galaxy, bones some aliens and dies alone


wasn't picard with him when he finally croaked? or are you counting his death in the cargohold of the ship as his actual death.


Haha, I was totally about to comment on Picard being there :P Even that has a happier ending than this.


Kirk...did we save the galaxy?

picard...yes and many orion slave girls are going to be crying tonight.

Kirk....yea...i had a good life.

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Thing is though, plenty of great heroes, from mythology, from religion, from fiction and from real life have died without their "crew" or their loved ones near, not knowing what happened to them.

Why should Shep be any different?


Because the game is supposed to be about the illusion of choice and is the final part of a trilogy. Bioware gave the impression they would let people end it in a way that would satisfy them and hyped it up to have these diverse endings. But the reality is, that you are all shoe horned into the same grimdark ending with a slight adjust to the flavour.

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GSS115 wrote...

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Are They not true.  You're using hearsay to justify your stance.  Pics and vids come from #3


Wrong. Pics and vids came from the pirated copy, Xoisite (who won a legitimate copy if the contest's own rules/marketing are to be believed), and, I believe, other sources as well, all of which showing the same thing and confirming one aspect that was maybe absent in another.

Why the hell would they use a bait copy that plays perfectly fine excpet for crap endings that pirates may or may not even care about, but, when leaked, would clearly cause fans to panic/ get pissed? If that's the case, it's an awful decision to make.


Please allow me to reiterate

1.  Xio is in violation of his NDA.
3.  The vids come from a Russian Pirate copy

Addendum
If you beleive in someone who is saying something they are legaly not supposed to, ok.
The pirate copy doesn't have a crack yet.
Also, the only people angry so far are the people who cheated and looked at the spoilers. (Yes me too)


I've read a lot of the leaks but there is more to this game, there has to be.  This time next week as people start beating the game, we're gonna look back on this thread and laugh at the hysteria...... I hope!

;)