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#9426
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Abaddon_86 wrote...

Bioware offers a service to potential customers.
If customers are happy due to the service received, Bioware will be happy, because the customers will stick to future services, as they know they always receive quality work.
If Bioware supposedly shows "guts" by displeasing its regular customers by offering service that is not coherent with previous services and its customers' wishes and expectations, then Bioware would indeed be f*ckin stupid, as both, Bioware and its customers are agents in a supply and demand based economy and customers would change their previous behaviour of sticking with Bioware and its services and consider changing their supplier in the near future.
So no, they would NOT show that they have big balls, by pissing their customers off.

   


Oh please they offer a entertainment product . but the thing is they have allowed for player choice . In their games and now they say F U . No that does not sit well with me

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This whole guardian thing is just nonsense. Perhaps Shepard could draw Excalibur from the stone and slay the reapers? That would be a similiar unrealstic conclusion for the series.

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

Abaddon_86 wrote...

Bioware offers a service to potential customers.
If customers are happy due to the service received, Bioware will be happy, because the customers will stick to future services, as they know they always receive quality work.
If Bioware supposedly shows "guts" by displeasing its regular customers by offering service that is not coherent with previous services and its customers' wishes and expectations, then Bioware would indeed be f*ckin stupid, as both, Bioware and its customers are agents in a supply and demand based economy and customers would change their previous behaviour of sticking with Bioware and its services and consider changing their supplier in the near future.
So no, they would NOT show that they have big balls, by pissing their customers off.

   


Oh please they offer a entertainment product . but the thing is they have allowed for player choice . In their games and now they say F U . No that does not sit well with me


Has my English been off or why did you clearly not get my point, which basically is the same as yours as in "don't ****** off the fanbase by doing weird sh*t and crushing everything they've gotten to love about previous products with a f*ckin sledgehammer!"?

Modifié par Abaddon_86, 03 mars 2012 - 02:34 .


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The Illusion of Choice and poor marketing is not a coherent beneficial sales move.

Well, actually, it is great marketing, we fell for it for six years. I didn't realize until between ME 2 and ME 3 that ME is a Kotor knockout with a lot of Smoke and mirrors, Once they started peeling away at it from ME 2 it hit me like a rock.

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Shepard reaches the top of the Dark Tower the Citadel and then sees to his/her horror that there is a name inscribed on the door.

SHEPARD

Before s/he can react s/he is sucked through the door, and ends up back on Eden Prime. Before her memories fade, she realizes what Sovereign meant by the cycle continuing more times than s/he could fathom. S/he had done this mission, this quest millions of times, only to repeat it at the end.

But this time the cycle has changed. Shepard still has the Cipher and will awaken the Prothean earlier than last time. This time. S/he will break the cycle.

The turian named Saren fled across the galaxy, and the Shepard followed.

Modifié par Sparatus, 03 mars 2012 - 02:35 .


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Prince_Valiant wrote...

This whole guardian thing is just nonsense. Perhaps Shepard could draw Excalibur from the stone and slay the reapers? That would be a similiar unrealstic conclusion for the series.


It would've been better. He saves Earthlot, he's alive plus the sword won't make his whole squad stranded in Gilligan's Island.

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Sparatus wrote...

Shepard reaches the top of the Dark Tower the Citadel and then sees to his/her horror that there is a name inscribed on the door.

SHEPARD

Before s/he can react s/he is sucked through the door, and ends up back on Eden Prime. Before her memories fade, she realizes what Sovereign meant by the cycle continuing more times than s/he could fathom. S/he had done this mission, this quest millions of times, only to repeat it at the end.

But this time the cycle has changed. Shepard still has the Cipher and will awaken the Prothean earlier than last time. This time. S/he will break the cycle.

The turian named Saren fled across the galaxy, and the Shepard followed.


hahah :D:D:D

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Kanmuru wrote...

AdhamS wrote...

I am immature, a kid whatever you want to call me, but this is it....I didnt get worked up to get THIS in the end...Its beyond the red line and I CANT CALM DOWN until we find out the truth....To say I am disgusted would be an understatement........


I hope bioware dosent give us anything just so i can see you all rage and cry on the forums. Its actually really fun seeing you guys have a meltdown:D:D:D 

DO IT Bioware!!! 

Geee what an a hole

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I'd rather have the cycle continue...

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Also the Illusive Man is a crazy old man who locked himself out of the Citadel and Kai Leng is killed by a giant spider that is the child of Garrus and TIM

Really, I think they secretly fired Mac Walters and hired Stephen King. The ending has his trademark, "I need to finish this now. Better make some crap up!" all over it.

Modifié par Sparatus, 03 mars 2012 - 02:42 .


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Sparatus wrote...

Shepard reaches the top of the Dark Tower the Citadel and then sees to his/her horror that there is a name inscribed on the door.

SHEPARD

Before s/he can react s/he is sucked through the door, and ends up back on Eden Prime. Before her memories fade, she realizes what Sovereign meant by the cycle continuing more times than s/he could fathom. S/he had done this mission, this quest millions of times, only to repeat it at the end.

But this time the cycle has changed. Shepard still has the Cipher and will awaken the Prothean earlier than last time. This time. S/he will break the cycle.

The turian named Saren fled across the galaxy, and the Shepard followed.


Aahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Ahms wrote...

Has anybody considered the possibility that these endings might have been purposefully "leaked" to see core fan base reactions and gather data? It certainly makes for interesting psychological research, if not data for deciding whether or not to work future, "alternate endings," DLC.


I have, but dismissed the idea. As a comicbook reader I´m used to how bad a writer´s judgement can be about what fans will accept, even if they care for it.

Take the Normandy situation (as it seems what it´s annoying us most), it looks like it´ll be near Charon when the battle is over Earth, that the squad who were with Shepard will be back onboard... do you really think the reason will be convincing and not a really cheap source of drama?

And the snowy landscape does look like the same planet the Normandy crashed on. If it is, I´m going to count how many women there are on board the Normandy. Inbreeding might not be the most horrible part of that.

It's not. It really, really is not.

If the Normandy ending really is being stranded on an unknown planet with no chance of rescue then.

If the medical bay was destroyed or Chakwas dies there'll be no medical care for anyone else who's injured from the crash. Even with Chakwas alive she probably was never trained to use her medical expertize in that kind of situation.
They probably don't even know how to find food and water nor what can be eaten and what can't.
People will get sick due to the microorganisms natural to that planet, from eating food that their bodys aren't used to, from drinking the contaminated water (like an European or American can get diarrhea, fevers and worse from drinking water in India)
They probably have no knowledge of the planet's environment (they probably don't even know how many hours a day lasts there), at least they probably have the Normandy for now to use as shelter from the elements.

And if they do decide to go ahead with the colonizing idea?
Then every single woman will probably be forced/pressured/asked/demanded to become pregnant, multiple times each.

Add to that that at least two people in the crew are homosexuals and still they will have/be forced/be pressured to perform as well it only gets worse.

Which by itself is a pretty hard thing to happen counting how horrible this all is... The inbreeding at least won't affect the crew directly, but all of this?

I know I'm probably over-analizing this :unsure: But it worries me how it seems like devs didn't even ask themselves any questions on how the suposed colony would work out...

Modifié par SomethingSome, 03 mars 2012 - 02:50 .


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DaftArbiter wrote...

So BW has told us that it'd be hard to get the best possible endings, but they always let us do with this game something that was unprecedented: if we made the right decisions, we could get the outcome we want. Huge spoilers ahead, you've been warned:









Current information states that regardless of which ending you choose, regardless of whether or not Shep lives or dies, the Normandy crew gets stranded on some random world without tech, Shepard will never see them again, and the galaxy by and large is completely boned for the next 200k years or so without any kind of good spacefaring tech.


To which I just want to say...why? After so many years of giving us control, why jerk it away from us at the last second just to force us to get a "bittersweet" ending. Not that I mind there being one present, and I'd use one in a playthrough, but not ALL my playthroughs.


if this is true....:lol:

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I've got a creepy thought right now: MassCraft.
Build and craft your own Normandy-Colony with omnigel-blocks.
"Shuddering"

I still hope for the patch doing something about the endings.

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Anyone knows the size of each ending video file?

Killing the last hopes day 1 patch may solve this.

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TekFanX wrote...

I've got a creepy thought right now: MassCraft.
Build and craft your own Normandy-Colony with omnigel-blocks.
"Shuddering"

I still hope for the patch doing something about the endings.


But what could a patch do at THIS point?  

This sort of goes back to what I was saying before,  what kind of replay value is ME3 going to have if ALL of the endings basically pan out the SAME WAY?

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TekFanX wrote...

I've got a creepy thought right now: MassCraft.
Build and craft your own Normandy-Colony with omnigel-blocks.
"Shuddering"

I still hope for the patch doing something about the endings.


Don't forget the Protheans, resurfacing from a lost colony as a playable faction.

"YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL BEACONS!"

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Game pulled a Deus Ex in a bad way. Sigh...

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SomethingSome wrote...
I know I'm probably over-analizing this :unsure: But it worries me how it seems like devs didn't even ask themselves any questions on how the suposed colony would work out...


I don't think you're over-analyzing, I think you're analyzing at a totally appropriate level that BioWare somehow failed to reach.

Modifié par k-baggs, 03 mars 2012 - 02:58 .


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Halo Quea wrote...

TekFanX wrote...

I've got a creepy thought right now: MassCraft.
Build and craft your own Normandy-Colony with omnigel-blocks.
"Shuddering"

I still hope for the patch doing something about the endings.


But what could a patch do at THIS point?  

This sort of goes back to what I was saying before,  what kind of replay value is ME3 going to have if ALL of the endings basically pan out the SAME WAY?


Zero

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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Bioware didn't just now realize what Garrus and Tali's fate will be on that colony (which shall now be named planet Contrivance)

It was already shown by the Suicide Mission that they really don't think that far ahead.

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DaftArbiter wrote...

TekFanX wrote...

I've got a creepy thought right now: MassCraft.
Build and craft your own Normandy-Colony with omnigel-blocks.
"Shuddering"

I still hope for the patch doing something about the endings.


Don't forget the Protheans, resurfacing from a lost colony as a playable faction.

"YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL BEACONS!"


And that lost Prothean colony happened to be in Gilligan's Island where Normandy crash landed! Brilliant! :o


Well maybe that planet is rich in Eezo. With a few metal scraps, Tali can make it do precision jumps so maybe, just maybe the ship can be fixed?

Modifié par wicked_being, 03 mars 2012 - 03:02 .


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Grand Wazoo wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

TekFanX wrote...

I've got a creepy thought right now: MassCraft.
Build and craft your own Normandy-Colony with omnigel-blocks.
"Shuddering"

I still hope for the patch doing something about the endings.


But what could a patch do at THIS point?  

This sort of goes back to what I was saying before,  what kind of replay value is ME3 going to have if ALL of the endings basically pan out the SAME WAY?


Zero


Yep, hurts replay value, hurts import value.  I have ten Shepards, I don't see the point in continuing all of them in ME3.

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Multiplayer has really good ending you get a nice Full Extraction Gold badge and the annoucer says "Well done team, Good Job"

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Technological Singularity.

If you look past your bias and the characters themselves, you'll see it all fits, maybe not as snuggly as the previous dark-energy ending but this does fit, and it makes sense, and the Reapers were never just "bad guys", you didn't know anything about them except their subtle alluded to motives.